TD-14 (Hurricane Milton)

redneck joe

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I'll stick with the relative randomness and smallish size of tornadoes. Yall keep them hurricanes.
 

briangcc

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It went from a Cat 4 to a Cat 5 in about an hour.

Buckle up FL folks and stay safe.
 

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Hurricane Milton is now a Category 5 major hurricane, according to the National Hurricane Center's latest update.

New data from the Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft show that Hurricane Milton is barreling toward Florida's Gulf Coast with maximum wind speeds around 160 mph. Minimum pressure has fallen to 925 mb.

Like Hurricane Helene, Milton didn’t give residents much time to prepare for what will be an extreme storm bringing a variety of life-threatening dangers to anyone living along Florida’s southern Gulf Coast.

Hurricane Milton is expected to make landfall around late Wednesday afternoon or Wednesday evening.
 

sdowney717

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WTNT44 KNHC 071455
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Hurricane Milton Discussion Number 10
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1000 AM CDT Mon Oct 07 2024

Milton's remarkable rapid intensification is continuing. Satellite
images show a small eye within the very cold central cloud cover,
and the eye is becoming better defined. Data from the Mexican
radar at Sabancuy show a small, closed eye with an intense eyewall
presentation. The Hurricane Hunter aircraft earlier reported a peak
flight-level wind of 146 kt, and dropsonde data show that the
pressure has fallen to around 933 mb, which is down about 22 mb in
4 hours. The initial wind speed is set to 135 kt, which is an
80-kt increase in 24 hours (only eclipsed by Wilma 2005 and Felix
2007 in our records).

The hurricane is still moving east-southeastward, now about 8 kt.
Global models continue to insist that Milton will turn eastward
soon as the frontal low pressure area over the northeastern Gulf of
Mexico departs. The new forecast near Mexico is about the same as
the previous one, but is close enough to bring hurricane-force
winds to the northern portion of Yucatan Peninsula. Later, a new
mid-level trough dropping into the northwestern Gulf of Mexico
should then cause Milton to move east-northeastward to northeastward
at a faster forward speed. The latest model fields are a bit left
of the previous runs, and the official NHC track forecast is shifted
to the north. This forecast is close to a consensus of the latest
GFS, ECMWF and regional hurricane models. Note that this track is
closer to the model fields rather than the model trackers which
appear to be too far south.


Milton is likely to become a category 5 hurricane later today
with light shear and very warm waters in its path. By tomorrow,
its intensity should be dictated by any eyewall replacement
cycles, which will likely cause the system to gradually weaken
but grow larger. After 36 h, Milton is expected to encounter a
much less favorable environment with strong shear and dry air
entrainment. Therefore, some weakening is anticipated before the
hurricane reaches the Florida Gulf coast. However, the system is
still likely to be a large and powerful hurricane at landfall in
Florida, with life-threatening hazards at the coastline and well
inland. After landfall, Milton should weaken and start extratropical
transition, which should be complete by 96 h.

Key Messages:

1. Damaging hurricane-force winds are expected across portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula. A life-threatening
storm surge with damaging waves is also likely along portions of
the northern coast of the Yucatan Peninsula.

2. There is an increasing risk of life-threatening storm surge and
damaging winds for portions of the west coast of the Florida
Peninsula beginning Tuesday night or early Wednesday. Storm Surge
and Hurricane Watches are now in effect for portions of the west
coast of the Florida Peninsula and residents in that area should
follow any advice given by local officials and evacuate if told to
do so.

3. Areas of heavy rainfall will impact portions of Florida today
well ahead of Milton, with heavy rainfall more directly related to
the system expected later on Tuesday through Wednesday night. This
rainfall will bring the risk of considerable flash, urban, and
areal flooding, along with the potential for moderate to major
river flooding.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 07/1500Z 21.7N 91.7W 135 KT 155 MPH
12H 08/0000Z 21.5N 90.4W 145 KT 165 MPH
24H 08/1200Z 22.2N 88.3W 140 KT 160 MPH
36H 09/0000Z 23.6N 86.4W 135 KT 155 MPH
48H 09/1200Z 25.5N 84.7W 125 KT 145 MPH
60H 10/0000Z 27.7N 82.8W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 10/1200Z 29.2N 80.1W 80 KT 90 MPH
96H 11/1200Z 30.8N 71.0W 55 KT 65 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H 12/1200Z 31.0N 66.0W 45 KT 50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

$$
Forecaster Blake
 

BWR1953

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Milton definitely has me more concerned than any of the others I've been through over the last 26 years, even Charley. And I got hit directly by Charley when I bugged out and it changed direction, ripping the roof off the hotel where I was staying. 😬
 

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Wife's Aunt just got back into her place in Englewood and have not replaced furniture yet. They have all found another place to ride it out hoping for the best
 

sdowney717

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Sanibel Island's roads already flooded ahead of Hurricane Milton​


Water sits on the landscape on Sanibel Island on as Hurricane Milton approaches on Monday, Oct. 7, 2024.

Water sits on the landscape on Sanibel Island on as Hurricane Milton approaches on Monday, Oct. 7, 2024.© Andrew West/The News-Press/USA Today Network

 

Scott Danforth

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Any standing water is from the eastern moisture that rained yesterday. We won't feel effects of Milton until about 10am Wednesday morning
 

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Talking with some of my old friends yesterday on the islands and they have given up on their clean up efforts until this one passes. I feel so bad for them years and years of hard work all wiped out by 4 feet of water in their home and businesses.
I have a bad feeling in my gut about Milton and I hope I’m way off.
 

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Wind speeds at 180 mph?


One seemingly encouraging aspect of Milton’s frightening development is forecasters’ belief the hurricane’s intensity will diminish before reaching Florida’s west coast, from its current Category 5 to perhaps a Category 3.

Jamie Rhome, deputy director of the National Hurricane Center, said that’s actually not good news.


Speaking to CNN, Rhome said Milton’s winds may decrease from the current 180 mph – they could conceivably dip below the 130 mph threshold for a Category 4 storm – but at the same time the hurricane will get bigger and become more damaging.

“We saw this in Helene,’’ Rhome said. “These big storms, these large-size storms, produce more impact. So this growth in size is going to more than compensate for the reduction in intensity, and it’s going to cause problems because you’re going to get a broader swath of impact, and then things like storm surge are actually made much worse by the bigger size.’’

Rhome pointed out the west side of the Florida peninsula is particularly susceptible to storm surge, as was evidenced late last month by the impact of Helene even though it only delivered a glancing blow to the area. The one-two combination of both major hurricanes so close to each other could be “crippling,’’ he said.


“This case it’s going to be a direct impact, a direct shot, and more powerful at that,’’ Rhome said. “So we’re going to have potentially catastrophic wind damage over a densely populated portion of the Florida peninsula. … Plus, the storm surge is going to be worse than we saw in Helene in some cases.’’
 

sdowney717

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You don't have to travel to far to escape the worst winds and ocean surge to potentially save your life.
We all know this storm is a killer as are they all.
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My family used to have a place on Captiva Island, and for years it seemed that Gulf storms were a rarity; the west coast of FL being the 'safer' side. That does not seem to be the case recently.
 

Scott Danforth

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Currently hope the Euro AI model or Canadian model are correct
 

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Have friends who have a vacation home on Anna Maria Island. They got 4 feet of water in their place from Helene. Buddy’s wife was freaking out about that so they left Central PA on Saturday to check out what needed done. Arrived at FL boarder Sunday morn to the news of evacuation orders on Anna Maria. It was hard to convince wife to turn around, but they did and got back to PA Monday morning. Will see if they have a place after Milton …
 

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The Hidden Death Toll Of Hurricanes
Hurricane Helene has devastated America's southeastern states, resulting in around 200 fatalities and leaving many without running water or electricity. Although a hurricane’s impact may feel immediate, new research has discovered that there may be more long-term effects than previously thought. Stanford University revealed in a study published in the Nature journal, that hurricanes and tropical storms cause a surge in deaths nearly 15 years after the storm. This hidden toll of hurricane-related fatalities is not from the primary destructive winds, high currents and flooding, but from the knock-on effects of a storm surge. A big storm will hit, and there’s all these cascades of effects where cities are rebuilding or households are displaced or social networks are broken. These cascades have serious consequences for public health," explained Professor Solomon Hsian, senior study author. The study, led by postdoctoral scholar Rachel Young, analyzed data from 501 tropical cyclones that hit Gulf and Atlantic coasts between 1930 and 2015. The results revealed that between 7,000 and 11,000 deaths are an indirect effect of a tropical cyclone over the following 15 years.

Since 1930, tropical storms have caused between 3.6 million and 5.2 million deaths in the US, exceeding fatalities from motor vehicle accidents, infectious diseases, and war-related injuries. The researchers found that Black people are three times more likely to die after a hurricane than white people, highlighting racial disparities in recovery and healthcare access. The surge in post-hurricane-related deaths may be due to public spending being focused on recovery needs more so than long-term health investments. The research estimates that 25% of infant deaths and 15% of deaths in those under 44 are linked to tropical storms, particularly in regions less accustomed to hurricanes.

"This points to a longer-term economic and maternal health story, where mothers might not have as many resources even years after a disaster than they would have in a world where they never experienced a tropical cyclone," said lead study author Rachel Young. Understanding the long-term health effects of tropical cyclones is increasingly important as climate change threatens to intensify them. Further studies can support government interventions to reduce long-term effects and enhance state disaster management.
 
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