tackle addiction??? you got it?

Jlawsen

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

This is a great thread, it just reminded me that I've filled up my Pro Tackle Bag again and need another one.
 

fishrdan

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

This is a great thread..........

How true!

But, you know, there's a term for people with boat load of rods, reels and tackle (pun intended).........

They are called Tackle Ho's

I have to admit, I'm one too. 6-7 tackle boxes, 50-60 rod/reel rigs, couple of boats :D :rolleyes: :facepalm:

trout/panfish casting gear
trout trolling gear
bass gear
pike gear
musky gear
dink striper casting gear
dink striper trolling gear
big striper casting gear
big striper trolling gear
offshore gear

There's even a Barbie pole handing out in the rack! :p
 

Jlawsen

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

There's even a Barbie pole handing out in the rack! :p

ROFLOL... I have one too! My little barbie won't use it, say's it doesn't match her camo..
 

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oh ya. got another one. r-2 war rod from renegade tackle. 8' catfish rod. uni butt system. the rod is one piece. but the butt comes apart. all aluminum machined reel seat. 10 eyes +tip. ready to catch some cats this fall on er. catfish edition reel as well on it.

HOING IT UP.:D
 

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Jlawsen

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

Wow, I thought that rod concept was long gone. I still have my very first Steelhead pole, (it's definitely not a rod, ha), that is almost the same as that. Mine is a Roddy and my dad bought it for me when I was about 10 years old. I caught my first Steelhead on that, a 9 pound hen. Caught it about 100yds down river from the bridge at the Russian River Sportsmen Club. My Dad thought I was hung up becaue she was holding tight on the bottom and not giving up. We were drifting in a little 8' plywood pram that my Dad would carry down to the river on his back.
 

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

oh ya. got another one. r-2 war rod from renegade tackle. 8' catfish rod. uni butt system. the rod is one piece. but the butt comes apart. all aluminum machined reel seat. 10 eyes +tip. ready to catch some cats this fall on er. catfish edition reel as well on it.

HOING IT UP.:D

Carl strikes again....hehe nice collection to all of you out there.....big money invested I'm sure...luv it !

Didn't notice any " tip up's " mentioned...got to have lots of those too........that season is right around the corner too...gesshh
 

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Wow, I thought that rod concept was long gone.

It's very popular and gaining momentum, especially with the offshore crowd. With a butt getting close to 50% of the cost of the rod its only makes sense to use a single a butt and make the rods interchangeable.
 

Jlawsen

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It's very popular and gaining momentum, especially with the offshore crowd. With a butt getting close to 50% of the cost of the rod its only makes sense to use a single a butt and make the rods interchangeable.

There ya go, my Dad was thinking ahead.
 

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

I don't have that problem-
I only have 14 rod 'n reel combos & 2 full tackle boxs for the wife & me - course we only catfish :redface:
 

catfishcarl99

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ya this rod can in fact be used offshore. under the rubber buttcap is an alum gimble. and the maker is in the works of making a channel catfish blank as well as the 8' one shown here and a stiffer big river version that will all interchange.

and no. i dont ice fish. winter id for hunting lol. never wanted to be out on a frozen lake. well unless on a snowmobile lol. last jan i fished a lake here in a tee shirt. no ice fishing last year. im not sure we ever had 5-8" ice at all in 2011.
 

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ya this rod can in fact be used offshore.
Only a masochist would use a 7'-6" rod offshore.:D

A 7'-6" rod requires 25% more arm strength to generate the same force as a 6' rod. A longer rod is your friend only when casting distance is the primary concern.
 

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Only a masochist would use a 7'-6" rod offshore.:D

A 7'-6" rod requires 25% more arm strength to generate the same force as a 6' rod. A longer rod is your friend only when casting distance is the primary concern.

:confused: I have a 7'9" rod I use offshore, works great,,, for casting live anchovies... :D It's like a buggy whip though, sloooow action. If two rods had the same action, that would hold true. But how many rods of the same line rating, of different lengths, have the same action?

I'm not totally disagreeing with you as I've seen guys with 10' jig rods having all sorts of fun landing a big fish... I'll pass on the jig rod as my bad back wouldn't be very happy using one of those things.

Once again I think it comes down to different regions using different methods and equipment.
 

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If two rods had the same action, that would hold true. But how many rods of the same line rating, of different lengths, have the same action?

Action and power have nothing to do with line rating. All three are subjective measurements with no real basis in reality. Trying to comparing one to the other is meaning less using these ratings.

Offshore on the East Coast means Billfish, Tuna, Swords, etc. and fish much larger than you are used accustomed to. Nobody goes gunning for #200-#1000 Tuna or Billfish with 8' noodle rods. Penn International 50 and 80's are the norm. Penn 130s are pretty common when big fish are in the area.
 

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Re: tackle addiction??? you got it?

same rod before they changed to white. added 2 eyes as well. this is the same 8' one i have. no one said 1000 lb fish. just said offshore.

 

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I've become addicted to making flies. I'm not saying they look good, but if I could, I'd make 20 per day, lol. As of now, I only get time to make 1 per day :(
 

fishrdan

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Action and power have nothing to do with line rating. All three are subjective measurements with no real basis in reality. Trying to comparing one to the other is meaning less using these ratings.

Offshore on the East Coast means Billfish, Tuna, Swords, etc. and fish much larger than you are used accustomed to. Nobody goes gunning for #200-#1000 Tuna or Billfish with 8' noodle rods. Penn International 50 and 80's are the norm. Penn 130s are pretty common when big fish are in the area.

You're missing my point, if we have two 20-40# rods, one 6' and the other 8', would they have the same action, making the 8'er 25% tougher on the fisherman? Sure they could, but in reality the 8'er wouldn't be as much of a pool cue as the 6'er.

I'd consider 150 miles west of the Mexican coast and 250 miles south west of San Diego "offshore". :D Most boat's I've been on don't target bigger fish as the passenger's are not equipped for them, they come under-gunned. I spoke to a captain about this once and he said they run across a school of really big tuna every once in a while, but they move on as most of the people on the boat don't have gear matched for those fish. I always bring an 80# rod and Penn 30S on long trips, just in case, but in reality, even if we found something where I'd need that rig, the boat would just move on. There are long range boats on the west coast that target "big" fish, though it's not what east coast would call big fish...

As I said before,

Once again I think it comes down to different regions using different methods and equipment.
 

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You're missing my point, if we have two 20-40# rods, one 6' and the other 8', would they have the same action, making the 8'er 25% tougher on the fisherman? Sure they could, but in reality the 8'er wouldn't be as much of a pool cue as the 6'er.

Most 20-40# blanks are moderate to fast action so yes, they would most likely be the same action. By definition, an X action rod "flexes" in the top X of the rod. The top X of a 6' rod is still shorter that the top X of an 8' rod.

Since the 8’ rod will bend more than the 6’, not only is the length of the effective lever working against you, the load working at a greater angle relative to the effective lever is making things even worst than the increased length.

Pool cues are the result of improper tackle selection. A #30-50 standup rod might behave like a pool cue when used to catch #20 stripers, but the same can’t be said when a #100 tuna shows up in your Striper spread. You just showed up to a gunfight as a knife. :D


SS-CJBF 65H 6’6” 30-50# fast 11 1.050
SS-CJBF 80H 8' 30-50# fast 10 1.170
 

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Most 20-40# blanks are moderate to fast action so yes, they would most likely be the same action. By definition, an X action rod "flexes" in the top X of the rod. The top X of a 6' rod is still shorter that the top X of an 8' rod.

SS-CJBF 65H 6’6” 30-50# fast 11 1.050
SS-CJBF 80H 8' 30-50# fast 10 1.170

Here's several 20-40# blanks from Calstar, different actions in different lengths. Different blank series for different applications, but still different actions.

T6480L 8' 1.070 9 20-40 MODERATE J/L/S 25-30 LB.
T660L 6' .880 9 20-40 HEAVY S 25-30 LB.
T665L 6 1/2' .895 9 20-40 HEAVY S 25-30 LB.
T670L 7' .910 9 20-40 HEAVY J/S 25-30 LB.
T6865 6 1/2' 1.00 9 20-40 HEAVY L 25-30 LB.
T690J 9' 1.125 9 20-40 MODERATE
T970 7' .980 8 20-40 FAST L 25-30 LB.


Sorry for wrecking your tackle addiction thread, catfish. (spoken like Forrest Gump at the black panther party :D)
 

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Here's several 20-40# blanks from Calstar, different actions in different lengths. Different blank series for different applications, but still different actions.

Even if the longer blank could bend enough to make each blank have the same effective leverage, the effective load on the blank will be different because of the different angle of pull relative to angle of the effective lever. The longer rod with its smaller bend radius will also be loaded significantly more than the shorter rod.

Try this. Tie the four full milk jugs to the end of your rod and drag them on the floor. The load on the rod is minimal because the load is moving perpendicular to gravity. Now slowly lift the milk jugs. As you lift, the rod begins to bend, the angle of pull changes and you can feel the effective load multiply exponentially.A fishing rod is a third order lever which is a disadvantage to the angler. If you want to make it even more lopsided with a longer rod go for it.

I guess you have to compensate for the lack of size somehow. :D:D
 
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