Stuck on dry land year 3

Tobiwonkinobi

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Ahoy seafarers I have a 84 four winns horizon I e almost been able to resurrect from a backyard of forgotten dreams.im no mechanic of sorts and I'm having trouble with getting the boat to crank over fast enough to start ..good battery clean connections and rebuit starter twice over .motor is struggling to turn over I had it running for a bit before the pandemic and had to step away from project for financial reasons .this boat is the only thing I was able to keep after the pandemic and I'm determined to fix it with out having to take it to some one so I'm humbly asking for help I believe the wiring is crossed up somewhere or a ground wire I'm not seeing any recommendations please .
 

Tobiwonkinobi

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Ahoy seafarers I have a 84 four winns horizon I e almost been able to resurrect from a backyard of forgotten dreams.im no mechanic of sorts and I'm having trouble with getting the boat to crank over fast enough to start ..good battery clean connections and rebuit starter twice over .motor is struggling to turn over I had it running for a bit before the pandemic and had to step away from project for financial reasons .this boat is the only thing I was able to keep after the pandemic and I'm determined to fix it with out having to take it to some one so I'm humbly asking for help I believe the wiring is crossed up somewhere or a ground wire I'm not seeing any recommendations please .mercruiser 3.7 470 engine I believe right turn
 

Scott Danforth

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You have to be more specific about what you are working on
 

dubs283

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Like scott says, you need to provide more info. Engine make/model specifically helps. Serial numbers are best
 

nola mike

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Ahoy seafarers I have a 84 four winns horizon I e almost been able to resurrect from a backyard of forgotten dreams.im no mechanic of sorts and I'm having trouble with getting the boat to crank over fast enough to start ..good battery clean connections and rebuit starter twice over .motor is struggling to turn over I had it running for a bit before the pandemic and had to step away from project for financial reasons .this boat is the only thing I was able to keep after the pandemic and I'm determined to fix it with out having to take it to some one so I'm humbly asking for help I believe the wiring is crossed up somewhere or a ground wire I'm not seeing any recommendations please .
Is it just cranking slowly?
 

tank1949

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Check for water on dipstick. If none, pull distributor and use engine oil primer. Drain al the old gas. You may have to clean out gas filters. If water in block, check for block cracks. If cracks, look for another motor.
 

Big Gee

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How fast does it crank with the spark plugs removed?
 

Tobiwonkinobi

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You have to be more specific about what you are working on
1984 four winns 190 boat with 3.7 mercruiser 470 R motor I'm goi g through the wiring g diagrahms and checking boat was rewired before neglected in a bad way but the wiring looks pretty good they rolled back old wiring in a bundle tied it off beside new wiring .solid method I guess .I have had starter rebuilt twice first time I being in a hurry to get it running just cranked s d cranked and etc for a while eventually a bling hog will fi d an acorn right but got it running g a d took it to Lake to try this old lady out water through transom. At the place where trim a d tilt passes through and old me mr hurry hurry forgot the plug and no bilge and landing full of trailers and vehicle led to across the cove Beaching where I e been stra dedicated for 3 years send help .just picking ..I got water out of boat a d put on trailer parked through pandemic I k ew I had abused starter so had rebuilt by local guy who is legendary I'm this area.whent to start other day a d fired up with minimal problems.washed boat out and cleaned now she won't start slow crank dragging a d whining .battery 850 cca new charged but I did notice that the wiring at master reset ends needed attn I cleaned a d soldered still drag .that's where I'm stuck .I'd love to resurrect this boat and get a bit of fishing in and chase a couple bikinis before 50 fewmonths from now any help would be mostly appreciative I'm sorry took while to get back work van is in cahoots with the boat I think.
 

Scott Danforth

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did you service the points before trying to crank and crank and crank?
 

Quahog

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Here's what I would try, First remove the belt(s) and try cranking to see if the alternator or something else is dragging. Check the ground connection at the motor side of the cable and the actual cables themselves. Should probably try replacing the starter instead of rebuilding it.
 
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