So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

QC

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Well being the pain in the arse that I am, I yakked a little with Admin 5 of iboats today. As our friendly neighborhood Sheriffs are just doin' what Sheriffs do (love you guys and gal), I thought I would kinda get it more from da horse's mouf concerning the changes here at Dockside, and I agreed to share his thoughts from the perspective of a fellow member.

Basically, iboats wants to move this as close to a real Dockside Chat as possible. iboats' intent is to offer a place for boaters to yak about stuff that is not specific to a certain area of boating and to foster camaraderie and discussion among members. However, like a real Dock or local Marina, those hanging around are from a variety of backgrounds. Knowing that, and out of respect, most people consider anything potentially controversial carefully before bringing those things up. People are there on their leisure time, after hours, or on vacation. If someone at a real dock was to bring something up that was not OK for the family in the slip next door, or if a topic appeared to make other boaters uncomfortable, social norms would cause someone to step up and calm that member down. Well, without the constant risk of being considered a social outcast causing one to behave, coupled with the anonymity of Internet Forums like this, things have gotten out of hand over a period of years. Dockside chat has migrated further and further away from the original ideal hoped for by iboats management and ownership.

Take the HOTD as an example, it wasn't necessarily controversial, but if a boater on a Dock had a fleet of women like that hanging all over his boat, frankly he would be shunned by most fellow boaters, particularly those who boat with their family. Yes, he would be a hero to some, but not the same people that a family boater would want hanging around his slip. Similarly if a seemingly innocent political discussion erupted into shouts and threats, then a family boater would also feel uncomfortable and ask that things cool down some.

So this is a cool down for sure. It is a reminder of the intent of Dockside Chat from the people who have given it to us. Myself, I like a spirited discussion, but I must admit that I would not want to hang around a Dock or Marina that was as spirited as we have been here at times. I love this site which is obvious by my post count, and I will do whatever iboats wants to continue posting here. I may push the envelope a little here and there, but I am going to respect the wishes of those that gave me this place to play, and I am gonna tie my boat up real nice a neat and remember that my conversations should be as sweet as my dock line spirals, AKA The Flemish Flake (I just learned that name BTW, you can find it here: Flake). How about that for a nice little Marina topic? :)

Kevin
 

57whitehouse

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Very nice QC. Thanks for the info. That's what I want to hear.:)
 

i386

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Hah! I never knew what that was called. I was always interested in that sort of thing as a kid hanging out with grandad (shrimper). There's a lot of tradition involved in how to tie this and that. Now that I'm up here in Ga. around fresh water you don't see that kind of appreciation that much. It's not that they ever lost it, they just never had it to begin with. It's fun to run into the occasional boater that appreciates such things, they'll surely have stories to tell too.

BTW I do hang my docklines off my cleats inside the gunnels with this:

http://www.animatedknots.com/coiling/index.php?LogoImage=Logo&Website=
 

QC

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

I am a Flemish Flake weenie. My boys know I expect it and I hope others follow my lead, because I hate when good traditions and pride in ownership go out the window. It's like Golf Etiquette etc. Part of the fun and pride that goes along with the hobby/sport etc. BTW, they are really tough to make on a dock with splinters :eek:
 

i386

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Nah, if i had my own dock I wouldn't be too strict about that. I would however insist that the cleat knot be tied properly. I hate to see 15' of line wrapped around one because someone doesn't know how to tie one. Tie it right. It's gotta "lay" right too imo. The right knot for the job is usually simple to tie and is untied easily no matter what strain was on the line. Sorry if I'm taking this thread too far in the wrong direction. It is sortof on topic.
 

LadyFish

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Great post QC, it shows you respect our position.

I hope after some thought others will realize that we don't want to be left with the task of cutting the dock off at the pylons after this many years of maintaining it.

It just needs a little repair in order to strengthen its foundation.

Thanks for your support and as always, we look forward to your posts.
 

drewmitch44

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Well with that QC you'r on your way to admin for sure. Thats what you want right? Ive seen some of your posts and that does not seem to be what yourabout. I love it here too!! Lets just roll with it. Thats the way it is and thats all. I have to finish y drain plug today and post the pictures. In about an hour or so when the paint cures i can install it. I just think it could have been gradual thats all. I-boats should have got moderators that moderated so it didnt get to that point. I was the one that posted Ohh no no more HOTD thread. I didnt know it was a big deal til that thread went like 3 pages.
 

12Footer

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

They've never docked at the fish tale marina on FMB, Florida durring spring break i takes it? :) Oh what a night! I could sing songs, baby!! :D


Hmmm... I'm beginning to understand :)
 

bekosh

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

I was the one that posted Ohh no no more HOTD thread. I didnt know it was a big deal til that thread went like 3 pages.
I don't understand what the big deal about the HOTD thread was. There was never anything in it that wouldn't be commonplace at the lake. (At least as far as I saw.)

If seeing bikini clad women women bothers you, maybe boating isn't your type of hobby. Boating and bikinis kinda go together.:cool:

This isn't my idea of appropriate swim wear.:rolleyes:
SUIT8B.GIF
 

Drowned Rat

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

It makes sense to me. You wouldn't talk to each other face to face on a dock the way people talk to each other on this forum sometimes.
 

QC

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Well I am probably not the best one to comment on the HOTD although I tried . . . Heck, I boat at Lake Havasu :eek: ;)
 

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

What you didn't see, Bekosh, are the many that got zapped by an alert Mod.
 

bjcsc

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

What you didn't see, Bekosh, are the many that got zapped by an alert Mod.
Yeah, like this one:

edited: Not funny...


QC:;)
 

POINTER94

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

I personally don't understand the big deal.... This is a business. They provide this site as a vehicle to promote their business. They can set forth any rule they want. This is not a democracy. More like a benevolent dictatorship. I found those posts proclaiming some kind of freedom of speech right, allowing them to say whatever entered their mind on someone else's web site without the filter of common sense, comical.

And I would say that it was probably around 25 of us that were engaged in a daily debate about things almost never having to do with the core business, but created all the mess. That said, I can't say I am thrilled about the changes, but I would bet a weeks pay that not one of the mod's give a rats a** about my opinion. Nor should they. And for gods sake these mods do this for free. The cheap shots levied at them were not only rude but unacceptable. Shame on those who felt the need to behave in such a childish manner.

I personally never participated in the HOTD. Thought is ran across the grain for the site's intent or at least crosscurrent to my reasons for coming here. But hey, its not my site, if they want it, they can have it. I (almost) never looked at the posts but I sure never complained. To each his own.

I will not walk away with some cheap parting shot and my finger in the air. I will hopefully be as stimulated intellectually by the new format as I was by the old. And I congradulate the mods on their restraint and professionalism.
 

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

Nice to know you can actually contact the higher-up here at iboats. Speaks volumes of their concern and caring, or at least their willingness to listen. As Pointer pointed out it's not only iboats ball but their court, and arenia were playing in. In the short time since the crack down there are a lot less threads I am avoiding here in DC.
 

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

I personally don't understand the big deal.... This is a business. They provide this site as a vehicle to promote their business. They can set forth any rule they want. This is not a democracy. More like a benevolent dictatorship. I found those posts proclaiming some kind of freedom of speech right, allowing them to say whatever entered their mind on someone else's web site without the filter of common sense, comical.

And I would say that it was probably around 25 of us that were engaged in a daily debate about things almost never having to do with the core business, but created all the mess. That said, I can't say I am thrilled about the changes, but I would bet a weeks pay that not one of the mod's give a rats a** about my opinion. Nor should they. And for gods sake these mods do this for free. The cheap shots levied at them were not only rude but unacceptable. Shame on those who felt the need to behave in such a childish manner.

I personally never participated in the HOTD. Thought is ran across the grain for the site's intent or at least crosscurrent to my reasons for coming here. But hey, its not my site, if they want it, they can have it. I (almost) never looked at the posts but I sure never complained. To each his own.

I will not walk away with some cheap parting shot and my finger in the air. I will hopefully be as stimulated intellectually by the new format as I was by the old. And I congradulate the mods on their restraint and professionalism.


i think that POINTER94 has said it the best and could not agree more
mods job is thankless when they have do what needs doing and we would all do well to remember that:):):)
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

when the mods speak it is with the managements blessing and full backing.
 

bubbakat

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

QC and Pointer you two really impresed me with this post. My hat is off to yea both.
 

Boomyal

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Re: So I talked to Admin 5 . . .

....There was never anything in it that wouldn't be commonplace at the lake.

Sheesh bekosh, I can tell you don't live near SW Washington/Portland OR. Bikinis are as scarce as Rolls Royces.:( Very few girls in the boats and the ones that are often don't look much different than the picture you posted.
 
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