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[Mischag]

Hey guys,
So I have what I think is a 2000 model Sea Ray 180 bow rider with what I thought was a 3.0l 2000 model Mercruiser… I’m just looking at my serial numbers that are printed on around my engine and wondering if someone can confirm this? I’m chasing parts for it but can’t confirm year and model as yet… I’ve got the following: Stamped onto side of engine block near starter is what looks to be I4097080 , then etched onto flat part of engine block above fuel pump is 2M06061RP and then behind starter motor is a mercury plate with serial number stamped M018823….

 

[Mischag]

Further to last… I believe mine is the M018823 number, which puts it in that year model… so now with my parts issue…
I am trying to replace my fuel steel tubing that goes from my fuel pump to carb… but I cannot find anywhere that has them anymore… it’s part number I believe is 32-8613041 which all websites says is not being made anymore… are people replacing that line with the A1 Marine Fuel line with the correct fittings? Would this one work do you think??? https://www.amazon.com/Sierra-18-8114-Carburetor-Connection-Mercruiser/dp/B000N9K0L2

I’m in outback qld in Aus… not many options locally… any help would be much appreciated as it’s perfect boating weather!

 

[Bondo]

I am trying to replace my fuel steel tubing that goes from my fuel pump to carb… but I cannot find anywhere that has them anymore… it’s part number I believe is 32-8613041 which all websites says is not being made anymore…

Ayuh,...... Welcome Aboard,...... It's pretty easy to make one outa 3/8" automotive brake line,.....

 

[Mischag]

Cheers Bondo… that’s what I’ve read, I just have to get the correct fittings crimped onto that line I’m guessing? Is there any reason why you would go the brake line over the A1 marine fuel line?? Just the chance of places having the brake line is better? Thanks for your help…

 

[dubs283]

If you have access to sierra brand parts they sell a flexible fuel line with the proper end fittings that is acceptable to use between the fuel pump and carburetor

 

[ScottinAZ]

Cheers Bondo… that’s what I’ve read, I just have to get the correct fittings crimped onto that line I’m guessing? Is there any reason why you would go the brake line over the A1 marine fuel line?? Just the chance of places having the brake line is better? Thanks for your help…

likely the steel brake line has flares on the end of it that hold the fittings in place and seal the line. If your old line has usable fittings they could conceivably be re-used if you have someone who can redo the double flare, otherwise double flaring tools are readily available on eBay or like (any automotive shop likely has one though). The original line was really nothing more than this steel line, and last I checked the steel brake line was significantly cheaper than the pre-bent version. Chances of a parts house having the steel line are much better as well

 

[Fun Times]

Further to last… I believe mine is the M018823 number, which puts it in that year model… so now with my parts issue…
I am trying to replace my fuel steel tubing that goes from my fuel pump to carb… but I cannot find anywhere that has them anymore… it’s part number I believe is 32-8613041 which all websites says is not being made anymore.

I’m in outback qld in Aus… not many options locally… any help would be much appreciated as it’s perfect boating weather!

There appears to be possibly 4 dealers in the U.S.A that may have some left over, https://www.crowleymarine.com/mercury/products/8613041-fuel-line

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[Scott Danforth]

Cheers Bondo… that’s what I’ve read, I just have to get the correct fittings crimped onto that line I’m guessing? Is there any reason why you would go the brake line over the A1 marine fuel line?? Just the chance of places having the brake line is better? Thanks for your help…

The fittings on the carb and fuel pump are SAE inverted flare. Specifically 5/8-11 thread for the 3/8 tube nut

Which is the exact same as brake line found at most automotive parts stores

These can also be made at any hydraulic shop with tube, tube nuts and a tube flare set

The A1 fuel line will also work, however the cost of adapters line and clamps is about 3x a pre-made brake line

 

[ScottinAZ]

The fittings on the carb and fuel pump are SAE inverted flare. Specifically 5/8-11 thread for the 3/8 tube nut

Which is the exact same as brake line found at most automotive parts stores

These can also be made at any hydraulic shop with tube, tube nuts and a tube flare set

The A1 fuel line will also work, however the cost of adapters line and clamps is about 3x a pre-made brake line

problem is, he is in Australia, so the brake line may be a 10mm bubble flared type locally. This is why I mentioned reusing the originals (if not rounded/stripped) and reflaring with double flare.

 

[Mischag]

The fittings on the carb and fuel pump are SAE inverted flare. Specifically 5/8-11 thread for the 3/8 tube nut

Which is the exact same as brake line found at most automotive parts stores

These can also be made at any hydraulic shop with tube, tube nuts and a tube flare set

The A1 fuel line will also work, however the cost of adapters line and clamps is about 3x a pre-made brake line

Thank-you muchly for this information. I'm looking at getting a local shop to make it up, but I have to order the parts for them to do it...
They are also asking for the 'crimp specs' to attach the fittings on the end of the hose, would you know what this would be?
Possibly, do you know what sort of pressure the fuel runs through the lines? I believe it's pretty low but if I know that then I can give them another option to crimping apparently...
I am unfortunately in the middle of nowhere and so don't have many hydraulic shops, but this information might get me enough to get it done... ordering the rubber sierra version is close to $200 AUD and the parts locally are only $50....
Thanks, any of the above information would be much appreciated!!

 

[Scott06]

Thank-you muchly for this information. I'm looking at getting a local shop to make it up, but I have to order the parts for them to do it...
They are also asking for the 'crimp specs' to attach the fittings on the end of the hose, would you know what this would be?
Possibly, do you know what sort of pressure the fuel runs through the lines? I believe it's pretty low but if I know that then I can give them another option to crimping apparently...
I am unfortunately in the middle of nowhere and so don't have many hydraulic shops, but this information might get me enough to get it done... ordering the rubber sierra version is close to $200 AUD and the parts locally are only $50....
Thanks, any of the above information would be much appreciated!!

Carbs like less than 6 psi (.4 bar to you ) so not much pressure

 

[Scott Danforth]

No crimp. It's an inverted flare. Slide the tube nut on the tube. double flare the tube

the tool is $20 from amazon (every one that works on cars should have one in their tool box already

https://www.amazon.com/Double-Flaring-Tubing-Bender-Cutter/dp/B07TXZ5K58/

here are some random youtube vids on flaring tubes

or measure the total length of the finished tube and order a pre-made tube line.

 

[Mischag]

so… where I am in Australia, they just don’t use double lap flares… I have the 3/8” tube and the tube nuts… but only single lap flare tools… I can get a double lap flare tool for 10mm tube, but not sure if that will do enough of a job for the 3/8” tube… what do people think? With the fuel pressure so low, can I use single lap flare or double pretty much the must do…
Thanks all

 

[Scott06]

so… where I am in Australia, they just don’t use double lap flares… I have the 3/8” tube and the tube nuts… but only single lap flare tools… I can get a double lap flare tool for 10mm tube, but not sure if that will do enough of a job for the 3/8” tube… what do people think? With the fuel pressure so low, can I use single lap flare or double pretty much the must do…
Thanks all

The US single flare and double flare are completely different fittings, same with metric bubble flare.

I would use the marine fuel hose from amazon you mentioned .

 

[ScottinAZ]

The US single flare and double flare are completely different fittings, same with metric bubble flare.

I would use the marine fuel hose from amazon you mentioned .

Yep, you have to be cognizant of what "type" of flare is used, there is 37 degree (AN/JIC) 45 degree (automotive) and of course the metric bubble flare. Using a single flare where a double flare was used for is a recipe for leaks, even if the angle is correct, as the flared section will be thinner than the fitting is looking for, you MAY get it tight enough, but likely not. If you cannot get a double flaring tool off Ebay or the like, best to go with a premade line. Was really hoping that double flare would be available for the OP, as it would have saved a LOT of issues. For the record, 10mm is CLOSE, but not quite close enough, 3/8 is .375 inches or 9.525mm, while 10mm is ~.394 inches. Close enough for a spanner to work, but not close enough for tight tolerance tubing and being leak free....

 

[Scott Danforth]

so… where I am in Australia, they just don’t use double lap flares… I have the 3/8” tube and the tube nuts… but only single lap flare tools… I can get a double lap flare tool for 10mm tube, but not sure if that will do enough of a job for the 3/8” tube… what do people think? With the fuel pressure so low, can I use single lap flare or double pretty much the must do…
Thanks all

If you bought the kit I linked to, it would have been delivered. However your 10mm double flare adapter would work just fine. you can also heat the end of the tube up and use a body hammer to roll the flare. however that takes a really long time.