Sad Story - Do not Drink and Boat

[Grant Brown]

Lots of press and banter going on about this accident. Now the truth comes out... Idiot.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/05082010...-ski-boat-involved-fatal-houseboat-crash.html

 

[Huron Angler]

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Let me get this straight...the MIQ(moron in question) was peeling around at night, navigation lights off, one case of beer consumed, 30kmh speed doing doughnuts and after killing innocent folks he cracks open another beer?

You can't make this s#*% up

 

[mnypitboat]

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Crap, he drove that boat right up inside the houseboat. People like this just **** me off.

Drink responsibly folks. We do bring beer with us on the boat, I wont lie. It is just part of the boating day. But damnit, we all need to be responsible about it. Especially if you are driving.

 

[WOJO 1]

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This is why when my boat is in the water, me the owner/captain, will not consume alcohol at all. The liability is to great when you are towing kids around on tubes and such. This is just stupidity.

 

[mnypitboat]

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Ya know what, I wasnt gonna respond, but I am so tired of hearing people like you on the site. It is not illegal. You just need to be responsible. We dont all act like jackasses like this guy. We also are not always out there JUST to tow tubes around. We go to restaurants, we go to motels and stay overnight, we tie off at local spots(heavily monitored by Fish and Wildlife, the Sheriff's department and the coast guard by the way), sometimes we fish, sometimes we just go for a nice cruise on a calm evening. Nothing better than idling down the river on a perfectly still Fall or Spring evening.

Just because you do not drink, dont preach to the rest of us that do. It isnt illegal until you get over the limit, and most of us are responsible enough to know when to stop.

The guy in this article is a complete moron and deserves to be beat to within an inch of his life in my opinion, but responsible drinkers, and boaters shouldnt suffer because of his indescressions. Condemning all drinkers for one dumbass getting tore up and killing someone is stupidity.

 

[skargo]

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Sad...

 

[mnypitboat]

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Who said anything about not drinking? Awfully touchy about this, aren't you?

Oh I get it now, the thread title. Stop being so defensive, he should have written don't get drunk and boat, but most of us figured it out by reading the story.

Apparently you didnt read WOJO 1's response. I just hear it so much on here, not just in this thread but anytime drinking comes up. Touchy, maybe, but I just hate it when people try to condemn those of us that are responsible drinkers because of some dumbass.

 

[Tim Frank]

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If by that rant you mean people who don't know what they are talking about, I couldn't agree more.

"It's not illegal" ?

Whoops! Error alert.

In the locale where this "accident" occurred it is absolutely illegal.

Under B.C. law, alcohol can only be consumed in a boat that?s equipped with living facilities and is either at anchor or moored to a dock. In other words, unless your boat has permanent sleeping facilities, a galley and a permanent toilet, adult beverages onboard are verboten. If you?re caught, you could have your liquor seized and be slapped with a $230 ticket.

Just because you do not drink, dont preach to the rest of us that do. It isnt illegal until you get over the limit, and most of us are responsible enough to know when to stop.

There was no preaching that I could see. Poster just said how he rolls. Seemed pretty responsible to me.
Sounds like you are in the "it shouldn't be illegal so I'll ignore the law,,,,but of course ignore it responsibly" crowd...."

 

[skargo]

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Apparently you didnt read WOJO 1's response. I just hear it so much on here, not just in this thread but anytime drinking comes up. Touchy, maybe, but I just hate it when people try to condemn those of us that are responsible drinkers because of some dumbass.

Looks like he said he doesn't drink as captain, he shouldn't be condemned for not wanting to drink.
Many people who claim to be responsible drinkers, are in fact over the limit sometimes, I see it more often than not.

That's all besides the point, no one should get drunk, or be under the influence and operate any vehicle, period.

 

[wbc1957]

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While there is a debate about what is legal and what isn't, I see things in this story that bother me more. Granted, the evidence isn't in yet and I shouldn't see him as guilty, but it sure gets me that each and every time you read or hear about a "drunk driving incident", the drunk offender remains alive and the sober victim dies or is crippled for life.

Sure the law on drinkng is different in many regions of the country and different regions of Canada. But, we all know responcibility and the fact that an alcohlic beverage needs at least one hour to clear one of empairment. It's in just about any operator's licence test manual. This is universal to any human being. Yes, laws are different, but man's ability based on science is not.

 

[ezbtr]

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how bout having A BEER and not drinking them all when on the water????

 

[WOJO 1]

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Ya know what, I wasnt gonna respond, but I am so tired of hearing people like you on the site. It is not illegal. You just need to be responsible. We dont all act like jackasses like this guy. We also are not always out there JUST to tow tubes around. We go to restaurants, we go to motels and stay overnight, we tie off at local spots(heavily monitored by Fish and Wildlife, the Sheriff's department and the coast guard by the way), sometimes we fish, sometimes we just go for a nice cruise on a calm evening. Nothing better than idling down the river on a perfectly still Fall or Spring evening.

Just because you do not drink, dont preach to the rest of us that do. It isnt illegal until you get over the limit, and most of us are responsible enough to know when to stop.

The guy in this article is a complete moron and deserves to be beat to within an inch of his life in my opinion, but responsible drinkers, and boaters shouldnt suffer because of his indescressions. Condemning all drinkers for one dumbass getting tore up and killing someone is stupidity.

Your boating and my boating are 2 differnt things. Where I go there is no restaurants or anything else for that matter. Just a desert lake. I'll do things my way, you do things your way. Knock yourself out, no really.
Now that my boat is out of the water I think I'll have a beer.

 

[jonesg]

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Thats the difference between drinkers and boozers.

Those we think might need telling, like the guy in the story, can't be told because they will not hear. The rest of society don't need telling.
THere I go again, preachin.!

 

[45Auto]

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30 KPH is about 18.5 MPH.

I very seriously doubt if he could have made it that far up inside the houseboat at 18 MPH.

The guy has 3 past convictions for driving while impaired.

The guy in this article is a complete moron and deserves to be beat to within an inch of his life in my opinion

If I were king of the world, he would be beat an inch PAST his life. How many shots do you think he should get at innocent people?

 

[Grant Brown]

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Maybe I should have titled this thread "don't get hammered and drive the boat".
Honestly I think more than a few people on the water should/could wake up.
Boating and drinking kills. Not every time and not every one but it is as dangerous or worse than driving a car while drunk.
I have a very good friend who is a Canadian Coast Guard member. He told me that 90% or more cases of death on the water are DIRECTLY RELATED TO ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION in some form. Could be falling off and drowning while taking a leak off the side, could be slipping and hitting your head on the dock, could be running over some kids on a tube or it could be driving a runabout up onto a houseboat at night.
Doesn't really matter how it happens, it just sucks when it does because it doesn't need to happen - ever.
As for the guy who advocated beating the guy, grow up. The guy obviously has a problem and needs help. Hopefully he will get it - in jail.
Peace,
Grant

 

[mnypitboat]

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If by that rant you mean people who don't know what they are talking about, I couldn't agree more.



Whoops! Error alert.

In the locale where this "accident" occurred it is absolutely illegal.

Under B.C. law, alcohol can only be consumed in a boat that?s equipped with living facilities and is either at anchor or moored to a dock. In other words, unless your boat has permanent sleeping facilities, a galley and a permanent toilet, adult beverages onboard are verboten. If you?re caught, you could have your liquor seized and be slapped with a $230 ticket.



There was no preaching that I could see. Poster just said how he rolls. Seemed pretty responsible to me.
Sounds like you are in the "it shouldn't be illegal so I'll ignore the law,,,,but of course ignore it responsibly" crowd...."

I wasnt referring to the dumbass that drove his boat into the back of a houseboat and killed several people. YES that is illegal to do that. WHere most of us live it is not illegal to drink on your boat, unless it is posted, like a state park or the like. I was referring to WOJO 1 who said it was "stupidity" to have a beer on your boat. To have a beer on your boat is NOT illegal.

I suppose it was that "stupidity" line he used that irritated me most. Trust me, my fat *** drinking 6 beers over the course of a 12 hour day out on the boat is not gonna put me over the limit. Especially when I drink 2 bottles of water for every bottle of beer. I know I am not drunk because we have a buddy that is a police officer and he let us play with his breathalyzer. I am not getting drunk on the water. Not only do I have to drive the boat to a ramp, but then I have to load it up and drive the truck and trailer home.

I just hear all the time on these boards when a tragedy(and this is a terrible tragedy)happens they blame it on the alcohol instead of the individual that did it. It is not the beer's fault that guy doesnt know when to stop.

I could go on and on, but I will not. It just irks me when people call me stupid or condemn me for having a damn beer!! Especially when I am perfectly legal in doing so.

 

[mnypitboat]

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Your boating and my boating are 2 differnt things. Where I go there is no restaurants or anything else for that matter. Just a desert lake. I'll do things my way, you do things your way. Knock yourself out, no really.
Now that my boat is out of the water I think I'll have a beer.

Your statement about it being plain stupidity to drink a beer on your boat is what hit me. I sit here reading over and over people telling me that because some dumbass doesnt know when to stop drinking, that I shouldnt be able to drink on my boat, or that its stupid for me to drink a beer on my boat. I dont agree and lumping all drinkers in with this jerkoff is just crap. If it becomes illegal to drink in my boat, then I will not drink on my boat, but until that happens, I will be having a drink now and again on the boat.

There is nothing better than idling down the river after having a nice dinner someplace on the river, and watching the sunset, and relaxing with a cold one. You just cant beat that!! If you choose not to do that, I dont have a problem with it, and I wont say its stupid that you dont have just one beer out there. That is your choice. That is all that I am saying. Dont say my choice is stupid.

 

[riptide09]

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While there is a debate about what is legal and what isn't, I see things in this story that bother me more. Granted, the evidence isn't in yet and I shouldn't see him as guilty, but it sure gets me that each and every time you read or hear about a "drunk driving incident", the drunk offender remains alive and the sober victim dies or is crippled for life.

I often wonder about that myself. Makes me remember when I was 19 and my grand parents were killed by a drunk driver. The kid driving, who was both drunk and stoned, didn't have a scratch.

My Mom used to say, God protects little kids and drunks. Not sure what that has to do with anything but this thread made me remember it.

No one loves a good beer more than me, especially on a sunny day out on the water. I just control and limit myself. There are way to many boneheads on the water and plenty of other opportunities to get in trouble. I need to be in control of my senses and my mind so no one gets hurts and everyone makes it home to their family.

I do not like to tell others what to do and how to act however I don't even want drunk passengers on my boat.

 

[skargo]

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30 KPH is about 18.5 MPH.

I very seriously doubt if he could have made it that far up inside the houseboat at 18 MPH.

The guy has 3 past convictions for driving while impaired.



If I were king of the world, he would be beat an inch PAST his life. How many shots do you think he should get at innocent people?

30 knots=34.6 mph.

EDITED DUE TO ME BEING A HUGE GIANT MISTAKE MAKER, I AM SORRY!

 

[mnypitboat]

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30KPH is 34.6 mph.

Still doesnt seem like fast enough to do what that thing did. He had to be going fast enough to not only hit the back of the houseboat, but also to launch it right up in there. Driving over a smaller boat at 35mph maybe, but I cant believe he wasnt doing at least 50mph plus to do this kinda damage.