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Re: Registering Canoe In NY. Really This Difficult?
because it was a canoe, that's why. Not a vehicle; not a power boat. canoes aren't registered or titled any more than bicycles or surf boards are. Like lawn mowers. Until you put a motor on them.
From the point of view of the state? the state has no business in the transfer of personal property from one person to another. Cars and large motorboats are mobile and seperately taxed, which is why the state tracks them--for taxes. Not for theft prevention. Not for your protection. For taxes. Canoes and lawnmowers aren't taxed and shouldn't be. neither should small boats.
We have a similar problem here with government intrusion into recreation: the floating blind law. You can hunt ducks from a boat (including a canoe) all day, but if you tie one small branch on it for camo (or put up a small piece of burlap, or a tarp, or sides) it becomes, magically, transformed from a boat into a floating blind that requires all kinds of registration, fees and big yellow stickers permanently and prominently mounted. Just to jump shoot ducks in a creek for an hour or two. What a crock.
In Virginia by law all you need is a signed title for a boat trailer but one lawyer I know went ahead and did a bill of sale for the boat, trailer and equipment, signed by both parties, counterpart originals, blue ink signatures, under seal, whereas and now therefores and all--in addition to the required endorsement of the titles. The stupid DMV almost didn't process the trailer registration b/c the bill of sale (remember, not required) did not give the trailer's VIN (which wasn't on the trailer, anywhere). he talked her into it; otherwise he would have had to go to a different DMV and present just the title--could even do it by mail. So even when you follow the law, or do more, you get jambed.
because it was a canoe, that's why. Not a vehicle; not a power boat. canoes aren't registered or titled any more than bicycles or surf boards are. Like lawn mowers. Until you put a motor on them.
From the point of view of the state? the state has no business in the transfer of personal property from one person to another. Cars and large motorboats are mobile and seperately taxed, which is why the state tracks them--for taxes. Not for theft prevention. Not for your protection. For taxes. Canoes and lawnmowers aren't taxed and shouldn't be. neither should small boats.
We have a similar problem here with government intrusion into recreation: the floating blind law. You can hunt ducks from a boat (including a canoe) all day, but if you tie one small branch on it for camo (or put up a small piece of burlap, or a tarp, or sides) it becomes, magically, transformed from a boat into a floating blind that requires all kinds of registration, fees and big yellow stickers permanently and prominently mounted. Just to jump shoot ducks in a creek for an hour or two. What a crock.
In Virginia by law all you need is a signed title for a boat trailer but one lawyer I know went ahead and did a bill of sale for the boat, trailer and equipment, signed by both parties, counterpart originals, blue ink signatures, under seal, whereas and now therefores and all--in addition to the required endorsement of the titles. The stupid DMV almost didn't process the trailer registration b/c the bill of sale (remember, not required) did not give the trailer's VIN (which wasn't on the trailer, anywhere). he talked her into it; otherwise he would have had to go to a different DMV and present just the title--could even do it by mail. So even when you follow the law, or do more, you get jambed.
