Poly or epoxy, not sure what to go with?

jeffrey.bean

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The key to either poly or epoxy is the prep

When you think you are done grinding.............you have much more grinding to do
I’m using an angle grinder with a 40g flap disc and a Mikita 1-1/8” belt sander.
It gets to the pink pretty quick.
In the pic, I was just knocking down high spots were the stringer was bedded.
Just finished pulling the core out of the transom last night, gonna be doing some serious grinding this week end
 

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88 Capri (2022 SOTY)

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i win (y) ,because i have hands on experience ( over 30 years on and off) , in that time i have seen too many times the drastic the results of internet fiberglass xspurts .
people giving advice after doing 1 restoration or repair and doing you tube vids or posting on social media or forums how too,s make me laugh .
break out the dixy cups and popsicle stick for a transom rebuild o_O
I'm glad you won with your experience!
Life is a learning experience and if I'm misreading your tone I apologize but people will do what they do and if there is no source of information then it's a total catastrophe.
The individuals coming here asking for advice does not mean their not competent, these people want to learn and become more fluent in the situation they are asking about. That is not being incompetent, that is being the exact opposite.
I have 30 years experience in my field and I'm still learning so am I incompetent?
I truly believe you could have expressed your views elsewhere and not in this person's build thread.
Again if I mis-read your comments I'm sorry.
 
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jeffrey.bean

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I'm glad you won with your experience!
Life is a learning experience and if I'm misreading your tone I apologize but people will do what they do and if there is no source of information then it's a total catastrophe.
The individuals coming here asking for advice does not mean their not competent, these people want to learn and become more fluent in the situation they are asking about. That is not being incompetent, that is being the exact opposite.
I have 30 years experience in my field and I'm still learning so am I incompetent?
I truly believe you could have expressed your views elsewhere and not in this person's build thread.
Again if I mis-read your comments I'm sorry.
Well said, I don’t even respond to people that come across like that.
 

88 Capri (2022 SOTY)

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Well said, I don’t even respond to people that come across like that.
I don't normally either but 3 years ago when I first started my build I was asking the same questions you are and I was successful. The years of successful and broad ranging experience on this site from the good people that belong to it is second to none and I just wish I had a resource like this when I first started in mechanics.
I just hope after this post I'm making that we can get back to your build story :)
 

Scott Danforth

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Try 24 grit on the 4-1/2 angle grinder. Works a deal better than the 40 grit
 

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Will do, the core is out of the transom, so this weekend I’ll get everything ground down and cleaned up.
for dust control, I use a shop vac with a bag in the bin. usually zip-tie the end of the hose to a chunk of metal I welded up to weigh it down.

sure helps reduce the cloud of dust

the filters plug where the bag doesnt
 

jeffrey.bean

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for dust control, I use a shop vac with a bag in the bin. usually zip-tie the end of the hose to a chunk of metal I welded up to weigh it down.

sure helps reduce the cloud of dust

the filters plug where the bag doesnt
Just made a pre filter ( cyclone) for the shop vac, it’s suppose to catch a lot of debris before it gets to the shop vac, and clogs filters and fills the bag.
Also bought a new hepa filter for it
for dust control, I use a shop vac with a bag in the bin. usually zip-tie the end of the hose to a chunk of metal I welded up to weigh it down.

sure helps reduce the cloud of dust

the filters plug where the bag doesnt
 

88 Capri (2022 SOTY)

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I ran across this as a possibility, I remember years ago redoing my house that there was a wet dust collector I had with a 5 gallon bucket. The dust went into the bucket and not the vacuum albeit I burned up shop vacs because of how much I used it.
I don't see it for sale but there are videos on how to make your own.
Is it worth the trouble I don't know but just a thought 😊
This pic I am posting is different but cheap at harbor freight.
I never thought about it during my project 🤔
 

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jeffrey.bean

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I ran across this as a possibility, I remember years ago redoing my house that there was a wet dust collector I had with a 5 gallon bucket. The dust went into the bucket and not the vacuum albeit I burned up shop vacs because of how much I used it.
I don't see it for sale but there are videos on how to make your own.
Is it worth the trouble I don't know but just a thought 😊
This pic I am posting is different but cheap at harbor freight.
I never thought about it during my project 🤔
I just made one using the 5gal bucket, this morning, plan on putting it through the rigger this weekend.

I’ll let you know how it works out
 

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I found that I needed 15 feet of hose and to have the shop vac suspended over me as room is at a premium, especially when working between the hull and sole for the fuel tank area, or in the bilge under the aft seating supports.

pulling the cap on a runabout frees up a lot of room, however the cap in the Rogue is bonded in to the deck in too many places.
 

Thirsty Endgrain

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I've used versions of those extensively in my work. There are examples and instructions for how to build simple ones online, and they work quite well.

Have one permanently hooked to one of my chop saws that catches most of the dust before filling the shop vac bag.
 

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If you can afford it, buying a Dust Deputy was one of the best tool investments I made when doing my restoration. I also bought a 13 ft hose for my vacuum and a remote control outlet so that the vacuum and dust deputy could be on the ground outside the boat, and you can still turn the vacuum on and off without having to climb out of the boat.
 

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My garage is under my house, so I didn’t do much grinding inside. I would wait for a slight breeze and grind away outside. When I was in the garage, I used a couple duct booster fans on a bracket sealed to a window blowing out. This created a negative pressure pulling from the house, (living space), virtually preventing all fumes and dust from entering the house. It worked quite well.
 

jeffrey.bean

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Awesome, we all love pictures too! :)
Seems to work pretty good, I already had dust and debris in the bag, so couldn’t judge how much was going into the shop vac.
I was grinding for about 45 min, with this ending up in the 5 gallon bucket. I only had the hose near were I was working, still plenty of dust in the boat that ill vacuum up later
Ok, break is over, back to it😄
 

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Lou C

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I’ve used West System Epoxy for small repairs it really has no odor to speak of and various hardeners to allow you to work in different temps. Expensive but good. Good tech support too for new users.
 

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I used a polyester repair kit on a 45 HP Chrysler cowling.-----The reek of that stuff is just awful.----Just epoxy for me now.
 
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