Peterson Jury Verdict Reached

JoeW

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Although little direct evidence was presented, the circumstantial evidence against Scott Peterson was overwhelming. He tried to sell his wife belongings even before the bodies were discovered. He was caught trying to leave the country after he had dyed his hair blonde. He was an all-around scumbag.
 

Boomyal

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Why not the death penalty. If anyone deserves it, Scott Peterson does!!! :mad: <br /><br />To answer my own question, because there were no witnesses? Fair enough I guess. As there were no witnesses, the sentence leaves room for any correction. They still should have given him life.
 

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I am with hayhauler. That boat has no freeboard at all. It is very small and unstable - meant for a pond or lake, not the ocean. Any weight on the side and that boat would flip. I would not even put that boat in the ocean unless it was from a dock to a mooring 100 yards away.<br /><br />On the other side, there is plenty of things pointing to guilt. For example, I don't think even the really frugal iBoats members have made their own cement anchors!<br /><br />I just want to figure out if he used that boat in what I would guess is a choppy bay, how he threw her over w/o flipping the boat.
 

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I once owned an 11 ft aluminum johnboat powered by a 5.5 Eska.Had it in the CC Bay several times in mild chop with two 200 lb occupants.I personally don't feel it would be a far reach to assume a body of 150lbs. or so would be too dificult to negotiate from his vee hull designed aluminum if a guy had the need.Just my take.<br /><br />One thing for sure.Someone killed her a dumped her in the bay in the same general location where Scott admitted he was boating alone on Christmas Eve with a wife that was fixin to domino at any moment.And didn't do a very good job of it at that since the bodies washed ashore.<br /><br />Other possibilities include an unreported tornado that wisked her off the ground near her home and deposited her along that stretch of beach. Or, she simply decided to go for a brisk winter swim and was overcome by her poor state if physical conditioning which triggered a premature birth.<br /><br />Circumstantial evidence to the third power.
 

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He probably did it. If he didn't, well, oops!
 

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Yet another wart off the A$$ of society... <br />We're on a roll now... Who's next?<br /><br />The death penalty would be too easy.<br /><br />I think he needs to spend some quality time with Tyrone or Bubba in prison. :eek: <br /><br />H.
 

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I find it hard to bleave that he could have killed her, moved her,dumped her and drove home with out being spotted, if that was all there was I would think he didn't do it.<br /><br />But look at his actuons. He was porking that blonde girl on the side, wanted to be with her. He was selling stuff before the found the body, he made himself look different, was arrested with a large amount of cash heading for the border, he bought the boat right around the same time she was killed, don't they even have him recorded talking to his girlfrend about getting rid of his wife? All thats what makes me thing he did it, or had something to do with it. I still don't understand how he killed her, he must have planed it out real well, because if he wasn't so stupid, and could have acted normal after it happend, he may have gotten off.
 

Homerr

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You know... all he had to really do is divorce her and pay child support?<br /><br />Stupid people just shouldn't breed.<br /><br />H.
 

dy168

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If he did it, he should have guts to admit it. There is one trial going on here in Vegas - The murder trial of casino mongul Ted Binion.
 

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His actions after the incident and the media was what got him convicted.<br />I don't think there was any evidence that proved he did it except a shaky alibis and his stupid actions after the murder.<br />Outside his house was a circus for along time. The media was camped out as well as a couple DJ's with bullhorns shouting at him.<br />Maybe he was the type of guy that didn't know how to handle all the negative publicity he was receiving and just wanted out of town.<br />If he didn't do the crime maybe having to deal with the death of his wife/child and the negative publicity was enough to drive him out of town and hide.<br />The media threw out stuff all the time that made him look guilty and rarely publicized anything that made him look innocent.<br /><br />The boat wasn't much but a person could dump a body out the stern without much of a problem. <br />As far as the body's washing up in the Bay, well if I was the killer that would be the first place I dumped her so Scott would look guilty.<br /><br />The info through the media sure made him look guilty. I hope he was.<br /><br />The thing that bothers me is that someone can be convicted of murder without any physical evidence.<br />If I was innocent I sure would hate to have my freedom and life in the hands of a jury.<br />Over zealous cops and prosecutors can convict just about anybody they want.
 

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Everybody knows that the world is full of mutated life forms like Scotty boy. It truely is better to rid society of them.
 

mrbscott19

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Maybe he did it, maybe he didn't. But the evidence, or lack of, doesn't prove that he did anything, so I don't agree with the verdict. It's a sad day for the justice system when you can be convicted of such a heinous crime with nothing but circumstancial evidence. It also seemed to me that the judge was going for a guilty verdict, and didn't want anything but a guilty verdict, which is probably why the jury Foreman was dismissed with no apparent reason. Then the next day, a guilty verdict is handed in. Looks to me like the judge dismissed the jurors that were leaning towards "not guilty". Now I can understand the juror that did some independent research, but there was no reason for the dismissal of the jury foreman, who is a lawyer/doctor, and who took more notes than any other juror. <br /><br />I personally think the decision will be overturned during the appeals process.
 

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So ,I'm still trying to fathom why an innocent guy on a crusade to locate his missing wife and unborn child would sell her personal effects before a body was found.They did have some incriminating evidence in the form of hair on pliers in the boat but that stuff gets explained away by the fact that she lived where the boat was kept.Otherwise that piece of evidence would be determining if it was found in say a stranger to the family's boat on a pair of pliers.I say if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat ,it sometimes isn't but more than not is.If nothing else,this guy is twitchy by the shear fact of his extramarital affair with a young wife expecting their first child.<br /><br />His demeanor and body language when questioned on camera ,while not an exact science was less than humble and at times apppeared downright arrogant.<br /><br />People that know more about other details than we do (ie his girlfriend and Lacy's family) also smell a rat.Not sure how common that is.Particularly since Lacy's family initially stood with Scott in the early days of her disappearance. <br /><br />This is only my opinion strictly based on television media coverage.I guess that's all any of us have to go on.
 

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The lack of physical evidence is what bothers me. I know that there was a lot of circumstancial evidence, but I couldn't have convicted anyone of first degree murder on the strength of just circumstancial evidence. His wife was missing and presumed dead, it's hard to say what you would do as a young man under such circumstances. Would you sell stuff? Would you run even if you didn't do it? I've never been in such a situation, and can't claim I know what I would do. I'm not convinced he did it. I'm now convinced he didn't do it. I'm just convinced that the evidence never proved him guilty and that's what our system is supposed to require.
 

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Our system actually only requires that 12 people think he did it based on their prior instruction and take on the evidence and information discussed in the courtroom.Short of photographs,eyewitness accounts,or an admission,almost all evidence including blood and fingerprints is in the realm of circumstantial.
 

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Originally posted by mrbscott19:<br />, but there was no reason for the dismissal of the jury foreman, . [/QB]
How do you know this?
 

hayhauler

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I think that our system has been corrupted to only require that 12 people think he did it. I think that their thinking he did it was at one time required to be based on evidence. I agree that blood, hair and fingerprints can fall into the realm of circumstancial evidence, but they didn't even really have much if any physical/circumstancial evidence. They could find some of my wife's hair anywhere I've ever been, it's always on my clothes. I think there was insufficient evidence to find him guilty, so they found him guilty based on the fact that he looked like a guilty kind of guy.<br /><br />I don't think we know why the judge dismissed the foreman. There could have been a perfectly good reason.
 

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Although the evidence was circumstantial, seems like there was so much of it that I suspect it would be difficult for anybody not in the courtroom the whole time to get a good feel for the totality of it. <br /><br />They had a month of secretly recorded phone calls between Peterson and his mistress after she cooperated with the police. Suspect there was some real damming stuff there. There was a phone call Peterson had with an 'outdoorsman' friend after he bought the boat where he failed to mention buying it (which really surprised the friend cause that was the type of thing they usually talked about). There was the homemade anchor/ concrete weights stuff. Driving how many hours up the coast on the day before xmas to go fishing but all of his tackle still new & unopened. Body showing up at that same bay so many hours up the coast. etc., etc., etc.<br /><br />Remember that the standard for guilt is 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. Based on what I've heard I suspect that even though the evidence was circumstantial, there was so much of it that the probability of it all being 'coincidental' was so small as to make it easy for the jury to reach that standard.
 

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I'm willing to let our justice system do its job. I'm sure there will be a number of appeals and more process to go through. True, I didn't see much of the case at all, and the jury saw it all. From what I did see, I don't think I could have found him guilty. If the appeals process finds the trial to have been fair, then I'll have to go with what the jury decided, because that is the way the system works, and I still believe that our system of justice is the best in the world.
 

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Bye Scott, sorry 'bout your luck garbage breath. Maybe you can write a book. All the $$ goes to some worthy cause. Your appeal defense doesn't qualify.
 
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