Does everyone want or need the most powerful or fastest accelerating motor? I sure don't.4 Strokes didn't and still don't have the Acceleration/Torque Curve that the 2 Strokes have/had. Add their much heavier Weight, and Boats that were capable of Pulling a Couple of Skiers with a 50hp, are Slugs unless fitted with 150+hp
You might want to check out the weight differences on the newer motors. They are much closer than you think. Only 15 to 50 pounds difference for many of them.4 Strokes didn't and still don't have the Acceleration/Torque Curve that the 2 Strokes have/had. Add their much heavier Weight, and Boats that were capable of Pulling a Couple of Skiers with a 50hp, are Slugs unless fitted with 150+hp
Not exactly, with so minimal number of those being sold and used, it would be difficult to make a fair comparison. For example, a friend has a Chevy Corvair with over 300K miles on it, all original engine, never rebuilt, runs like a top !! Could we assume from that one midel that all Corvairs are that reliable?? The number of those old four strokes were few, and most were much lower hp smaller engines which would lean toward better sucess over a period of time. With todays high output, high hp motors turning 7K rpm or more and pushing heavy boats is hardly a comparison to a ten hp motor pushing a rowboat. Now....with that said, the new 4 stroke motors may very well be reliable, but at their current cost and the cost of an overhaul, only time will tell if todays motors will stand the test of time.. Will be interesting to see how many motors built in the last 6-8 years will be around in good running condition 40 -50 years from now, and will these older motors be worth rebuilding when they wear out in 30-40 years if they make it that far !!Well let's take a brief and incomplete and possibly inaccurate history of 4 stroke outboards.There were several small and short lived companies as far back as the 1920's. But successful companies include:
Tohatsu 1956 !
Homelite /Fisher-Pierce 1960
Honda 1964
Suzuki and Mercury tried 4 strokes in 1965
Yamaha 1984/5
Mercury 1994
Suzuki 1998
So we have 4 stroke history that tells us plenty.
I agree totally, but then again I am 73 yrs old. In my younger days I wanted a boat that could do 35 mph while everyone else was trying to get to 25-30...Does everyone want or need the most powerful or fastest accelerating motor? I sure don't.
Not everyone is fishing tournaments, or trying to make up for their male deficiencies.
Give me a solid motor that can push my boat at 30 mph and I'm good.
thats why im probably staying with my 50 on my 18 footer rated for 115. 28 mph on my small lakes delving deep into coves and hiking to the falls and taking a nap works well at that speed.Does everyone want or need the most powerful or fastest accelerating motor? I sure don't.
Not everyone is fishing tournaments, or trying to make up for their male deficiencies.
Give me a solid motor that can push my boat at 30 mph and I'm good.
Suspension was the problem!Not exactly, with so minimal number of those being sold and used, it would be difficult to make a fair comparison. For example, a friend has a Chevy Corvair with over 300K miles on it, all original engine, never rebuilt, runs like a top !! Could we assume from that one midel that all Corvairs are that reliable?? The number of those old four strokes were few, and most were much lower hp smaller engines which would lean toward better sucess over a period of time. With todays high output, high hp motors turning 7K rpm or more and pushing heavy boats is hardly a comparison to a ten hp motor pushing a rowboat. Now....with that said, the new 4 stroke motors may very well be reliable, but at their current cost and the cost of an overhaul, only time will tell if todays motors will stand the test of time.. Will be interesting to see how many motors built in the last 6-8 years will be around in good running condition 40 -50 years from now, and will these older motors be worth rebuilding when they wear out in 30-40 years if they make it that far !!
That is why I would be concerned buying one....expensive to begin with, then expensive again down the road for replacement. You know they won't give you squat for your old trade in. I can see this becomming a tough sell about 10-15 years down the road...The big 4 strokes can be " serviced " by your local shop.------They can not be rebuilt by your local shop.-----Cost of labor and ----" I need it by the week end "----means they suggest a new motor.
Nothing like the smell of 2 stroke on a foggy morning.
Nothing.
It is a Wonderful Scent
TCW smells different than Oils for Air Cooled enginesits on my gift wish list. https://www.amazon.com/Stroke-Dirt-Candle-Friend-Motocross/dp/B0BRJVCJ3K
The Pennzoil TCW3 that I have used for decades states it can be used for all two stroke engines, both water and aircooled. Never knew there was a different oil for air cooled !! Never had an engine issue and the Pennzoil gives far less smoke than other brands!!TCW smells different than Oils for Air Cooled engines