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aspeck

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I was going to hit the water today ... but 40mph wind gusts kept me landlocked. Tomorrow will be my last chance to bag a doe till after the new year, so will be in the woods tomorrow. Maybe Monday I will get out on the water ... Lakers are hitting big time.
 

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I once caught carp with .22 LR Hollow Points.
When I was in the army (light years ago) we sometimes went fishing in a wild way. We would throw a piece a bread in the water and wait for the fish to come to the surface to start feeding on the bread. Then we put a bullet right through the middle of the bread. The impact of the bullet on the water would stun the fish and we would take some and leave the rest. Those would swim away a few minutes later. It worked best with M14, SKS and AK47 all high speed with fairly large caliber bullets. It would not work with UZI. The bullets were to slow. M16 would not work either, in spite of the high velocity 5.56 was not large enough of a caliber.
 

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Do not kill off the lamprey at their breeding sites. Too cheap. Feed them more fish. Most expensive solution. (y)
 

rolmops

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Do not kill off the lamprey at their breeding sites. Too cheap. Feed them more fish. Most expensive solution. (y)
I have been involved in Lamprey treatment and we always try to treat the lamprey spawning streams when the spawning happens. Sometimes a freak rain will flush the treatment chemicals or the overall creek levels are at flood stage in which case we cannot treat the streams.
I think you should clarify your statement because at least to me, it does not make sense.
 

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Did you read post #373 ?
I went over it just now and I see where your idea comes from. 50 years ago there was a lamprey problem, but that was not the reason why lake trout populations collapsed. It was pollution and also an over fishing (commercial) problem. With all the DDT and other poisons settling on the bottom where the lake trout live the amounts of DDT that accumulated in the Lake trout became the main reason why they stopped reproducing. Lake trout does not reproduce in the first few years of their life and by the time they were ready to spawn they had absorbed so much DDT that they no longer reproduced and their overall health was poor.
Splake reproduces after 2 years at which point there is less poison in their system compared to four year old lakers and they can still successfully spawn.
I agree that lamprey is a scourge, but the modern treatments are done in streams where they reproduce and live for a few years, after that they hit the lake and become the pest that they are. Catching the spawn ready lamprey is very tricky. We used weirs ( comparable to European eel weirs) which would work nice , but after a few days the dying lamprey would cause a change in the chemistry of the water which set of alarm bells in the lamprey that wanted to enter the creek and sent them elsewhere. Nowadays lamprey pheromones are used to attract spawning ready lamprey into certain streams where the fry killing chemicals are used. It is all very tricky stuff and certainly not a money waster as you suggest.
 
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FLATHEAD

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Here they are natural, big difference from being invasive. They come up the Delaware River to spawn and are regarded as beneficial to the river, for several reasons. When the fry mature they return to the ocean where they feed on fish. It’s not a big issue and not many fish in the river are caught with lamprey on them or the scars.
 
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