NewWood

[NewWood CEO]

Re: NewWood

Having been a boater for the past 45 years I appreciate the questions and concerns related to NewWood. Let me say, take a look at the website, www.newwood.com you should be able to find answers to many of your questions. NewWood is a unique material, unlike any you have referenced in your discussions. NewWood is 100% recycled content, both wood and plastic. The binder or glue in our material IS the recycled plastics, both LDPE and HDPE. We are virtually waterproof, because of the plastic binder, the wood fibers are unable to absorb moisture. This unique feature allows our panel to stay extremely stable in wet, dry, hot and cold environments.
Adhesion is successful with contact adhesives. Bonding and glassing in with polyester resins may not yield the result you desire. The panel can be sanded and the bond will hold, but in a high flex areas the bond may fracture. We see NewWood used in all areas where moisture resistance is a top priority, seat backs, seat bottoms, cabinets, boxes and any other area where mechanical fastening is appropriate. By the way, screw holding is 4X's stronger than plywood and moisture will not cause a weakening of the screw hole.
IsNewWood the answer to every location on the vessel, no, but is it the solution for many failed plywood applications yes. Our technology is unique, our capacity is large, our brand is new, but our process is proven with many ASTM standards, all of which are available upon request.
Happy restorations and Happy boating to all.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: NewWood

Having been a boater for the past 45 years I appreciate the questions and concerns related to NewWood. Let me say, take a look at the website, www.newwood.com you should be able to find answers to many of your questions. NewWood is a unique material, unlike any you have referenced in your discussions. NewWood is 100% recycled content, both wood and plastic. The binder or glue in our material IS the recycled plastics, both LDPE and HDPE. We are virtually waterproof, because of the plastic binder, the wood fibers are unable to absorb moisture. This unique feature allows our panel to stay extremely stable in wet, dry, hot and cold environments.
Adhesion is successful with contact adhesives. Bonding and glassing in with polyester resins may not yield the result you desire. The panel can be sanded and the bond will hold, but in a high flex areas the bond may fracture. We see NewWood used in all areas where moisture resistance is a top priority, seat backs, seat bottoms, cabinets, boxes and any other area where mechanical fastening is appropriate. By the way, screw holding is 4X's stronger than plywood and moisture will not cause a weakening of the screw hole.
IsNewWood the answer to every location on the vessel, no, but is it the solution for many failed plywood applications yes. Our technology is unique, our capacity is large, our brand is new, but our process is proven with many ASTM standards, all of which are available upon request.
Happy restorations and Happy boating to all.

You have a PM.

Browse our restoration section and you will see many places your product will be a perfect fit.

To the original poster..... sorry for the hijack I had to welcome this gentleman here

 

[jigngrub]

Re: NewWood

Having been a boater for the past 45 years I appreciate the questions and concerns related to NewWood. Let me say, take a look at the website, www.newwood.com you should be able to find answers to many of your questions. NewWood is a unique material, unlike any you have referenced in your discussions. NewWood is 100% recycled content, both wood and plastic. The binder or glue in our material IS the recycled plastics, both LDPE and HDPE. We are virtually waterproof, because of the plastic binder, the wood fibers are unable to absorb moisture. This unique feature allows our panel to stay extremely stable in wet, dry, hot and cold environments.
Adhesion is successful with contact adhesives. Bonding and glassing in with polyester resins may not yield the result you desire. The panel can be sanded and the bond will hold, but in a high flex areas the bond may fracture. We see NewWood used in all areas where moisture resistance is a top priority, seat backs, seat bottoms, cabinets, boxes and any other area where mechanical fastening is appropriate. By the way, screw holding is 4X's stronger than plywood and moisture will not cause a weakening of the screw hole.
IsNewWood the answer to every location on the vessel, no, but is it the solution for many failed plywood applications yes. Our technology is unique, our capacity is large, our brand is new, but our process is proven with many ASTM standards, all of which are available upon request.
Happy restorations and Happy boating to all.

The biggest disappointment I find with your product is that it isn't available nationwide

I wish you the best of luck with your business and I really hope this product catches on so you can broaden your distribution horizons.

I would really like to try this product in some aluminum boat restoration applications, it seems like an ideal material for a lot of my needs.

 

[NewWood CEO]

Re: NewWood

650

The biggest disappointment I find with your product is that it isn't available nationwide

I wish you the best of luck with your business and I really hope this product catches on so you can broaden your distribution horizons.

I would really like to try this product in some aluminum boat restoration applications, it seems like an ideal material for a lot of my needs.

 

[NewWood CEO]

Re: NewWood

I am providing the following for those of you looking for ways to bond NewWood into your various applications;

The product I mentioned over the phone is called G/flex. Here is a great article that gives a great overview of the product:

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/g-flex-epoxy/

Here is the article that talks about adhesion to plastics:

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/gflex/GluingplasticGflex.pdf

 

[jigngrub]

Re: NewWood

650

650?

 

[GT1000000]

Re: NewWood

As promised...
Thank you for your interest in NewWood.
NewWood is a solid choice for marine applications. We will be testing an adhesive called G/Flex soon. We have found in that straight resin is a poor choice to bond with the polyethylene surface of NewWood in that we are more dynamic and flexible which could cause the stiff resin to separate.

We do recommend with any adhesive that a light roughing of the surface is helpful in creating more molecular hooks for bonding.

If I can be of any further assistance or can answer any other questions please do let me know.

Best regards,

Steven Kovacs
Account Manager
NewWood Manufacturing Inc.
100 Commerce Lane
Elma, WA 98541
Cell: (253) 583-4964
Office: (360) 482-0888
Fax: (360) 482-0893
s.kovacs@newwood.com
www.newwood.com
Applications include:
Marine: Transoms, bulkheads, seats, and dock lockers
Construction: Floor underlayment, wall and roof-sheathing*, concrete forms
Truck, Trailer and RV: Core material for side walls and floors
Signs & Garage Doors: Can be routed, sand blasted and painted
Bins and Containers: USDA and FDA food contact safe compliant
Farm & Ranch: Stall liners, chicken coops, pens, feed troughs, pump houses, and sheds
Home & Garden: Planter boxes, edging, outdoor kitchen cabinets/island constructions, garage wall protection and more.
Technical & Mechanical Data
NewWood is a superior performance building material made from 100% recycled content. Our integrated wood/polymer
composite has the same strength and longevity as plastic, but with the easy use of wood. Its outstanding nail and screw
holding strength allows it to be nailed within 1/4" of an edge without splitting. It is highly resistant to damage from weather,
insects, mold and fungus. NewWood uses no glues or resins in its manufacturing and has no VOC off-gassing.
USES
1.) NewWood is well suited for any installation or application where durability and water-resistance are a must.
2.) As a panel product, NewWood offers strength, flexibility, dimensional stability when subjected to heat, cold or water
immersion, racking and impact resistance and outstanding fastener holding values.
NewWood
Specifications:
4' x 8'
7/16" thickness
60.5 lbs. per sheet
1 Pallet = 32 Sheets

NewWood
has a low density polyethylene surface that makes it durable, virtually waterproof, and resistant to scuffing. Those very properties, however, require specific types of adhesives to attach other materials to NewWood. Manufacturers and NewWood have identified the following adhesive products and types of bonding agents that will form a good bond to NewWood.
Adhesive Options for Application to NewWood Panel Face
TiteBond II Premium Wood Glue by Franklin International
Liquid Nails by Akzo Nobel Paints LLC
PL Premium Advanced by Henkel Corporation
Gorilla Glue by Gorilla Glue Company
Roo-Super Bond, and Roo Clear from Roo Products Inc.
Armstrong S-240 High Performance Epoxy Flooring Adhesive from Armstrong Commercial Flooring
Armstrong S-235 Premium Sheet Flooring Adhesive from Armstrong Commercial Flooring
Mapei Ultrabond Eco 360 from Mapei Adhesives and Sealants
Henry Multipurpose Construction Adhesive 317 from WW Henry
3M?s Hi-Strength 90 Spray Adhesive
Loctite U-05FL, a two-component urethane adhesive by Henkel
Loctite 3034, an acrylic adhesive by Henkel
There are classes of adhesives that can bond to the polyethylene content of NewWood.
Thermoplastic adhesives do not require adding heat to get the surfaces to bond. Two basic types of thermoplastic adhesives will
work: cyanoacrylate (which does not require air to cure) and saturated polyesters combined with isocynate catalysts. They should
cure at room temperature and can be accelerated for solvent evaporation and press curing at 100 to 154 degrees Fahrenheit.
Adhesives which use Resin Acids help etch into the NewWood surface to improve the mechanical bond between NewWood and
other materials. Organic solvents like Benzene, Alkenes (Ethylene), Cyclohexane when in a formulated adhesive help induce both a
mechanical and a chemical bond to the NewWood surface.
UNDERSTANDING THE NEWWOOD PANEL
Our product line has a strong resistance to penetration by water and water-based treatments, such as latex paint, due to its plastic matrix. Our plastic content throughout the panel inhibits the uptake of water, especially water vapor. NewWood Under panels have an enhanced surface technology which broadens the range of paints and glues, including water-based paints, which will bond to it. To coat NewWood products or to glue a laminate or other material to the NewWood surface, it is important to both select products that bond easier to plastic and to prepare the NewWood surface. Follow the manufacturer?s instructions on any glue, paint or mastic you apply. Whether applying to NewWood Natural or NewWood Under,
NewWood recommends you roughen up or scuff the surface before you coat with an adhesive or paint and provide extra time for it to set up or cure.
Penetrating stains and solvent-based adhesives are good alternatives to water-based paints and adhesives. Their chemical composi-tion makes it easier to bond to the top surface of NewWood products and provide additional protection against water damage or pen-etration.
ADDITIONAL OPTIONS FOR BONDING TO NEWWOOD
Double Sided Tape ? there are many types of seam sealing tapes or double-sided foam tapes which form permanent adhesive bonds
with polyethylene surfaces such as NewWood. "Killer Red Tape" made by Ridout Plastics is a thin 0.015" thick acrylic adhesive
transfer tape perfect for smooth surface applications.
Infrared, Ultraviolet and Hot Air Bonding ? the polyethylene content in NewWood can bond to other polyolefin-based surfaces, such
as plastic sheeting or any of the many polyethylene composites, when heated to a melt temperature.

NewWood
has a low density polyethylene surface that makes it durable, virtually waterproof, and resistant to scuffing. Those very properties, however, limit the number of primers and finish paints that will adhere to the panel surface.
Paint manufacturers have identified for NewWood the following products that adhere to NewWood without any sanding or other sur-face preparation, other than having the surface clean and dry:
Duramax Exterior Acrylic Latex by Valspar Paint
Sherwin Williams Exterior Alkyd Wood Primer Y24W8020.
Glidden Gripper Primer ? White
Gaco Deck Primer
APAC EnCapSeal Primer
Sherwin Williams Latex Primer B42W1700. (a commercial grade that may be special ordered in their retail stores)
Rust-Oleum Direct to Plastic Aerosol
Krylon Fusion for Plastic Aerosol
Our product line has a strong resistance to penetration by water and water-based treatments, such as latex paint, due to its plastic matrix. Our plastic content throughout the panel inhibits the uptake of water, especially water vapor. NewWood Under panels have an enhanced surface technology which broadens the range of paints and glues, including water-based paints that will bond to it. To coat NewWood products or to glue a laminate or other material to the NewWood surface, it is important to both select products that bond easier to plastic and to prepare the NewWood surface. Follow the manufacturer?s instructions on any glue, paint or mastic you apply. Whether applying to NewWood Natural or NewWood Under, NewWood recommends you roughen up or scuff the surface before you coat with an adhesive or paint and provide extra time for it to set up or cure.
Penetrating stains and solvent-based adhesives are good alternatives to water-based paints and adhesives. Their chemical compo-sition makes it easier to bond to the top surface of NewWood products and provide additional protection.
NewWood also recommends a small trial on a piece of NewWood, before applying primer, paint, stain, or adhesive on a larger scale. The four edges and cut edges from fabricating the board will readily accept any paint, stain or seam sealing product.

Paint Options for Application to NewWood Panel Face

Better than Marine Grade

NewWood?Resists Even the Harshest Chemical Exposure
Very few building materials can stand up to constant contact with saltwater, chemicals or high pH materials like concrete. NewWood can. So not only are you assured that NewWood stays dimensionally stable, even when wet, dry, hot or cold, you can be confident it will last and keep a smooth surface when put to the toughest tests.
Here?s what two product evaluators had to say about NewWood:
"NewWood is an excellent product for marine wood applications. For sixty days we submerged a large sheet of NewWood in the ocean. When we completed the test it was clear that the salt water did no damage. It's a very versatile product. I recommend NewWood."
Pete Stewart (Owner of South Coast Shipyard Newport Beach, CA)
"?the concrete mix we use in all of our testing contains a high concentration of cementitious materials (cement and mineral admixtures) with the objective of achieving a pH of 14, which from a concrete alkalinity point of view is as bad as it gets. The pours that we placed against your panels suggested that your product is completely impervious to the pH 14 condition we created, which we found quite impressive. Clearly, your manufacturing process encapsulates the wood fiber with plastic, and prevents the alkalis from attacking the fiber." Jeff Linn, Nox-Crete
Better than Marine Grade
Seats
Floats
Pontoons
Power Pedestals
Bins
Deck Boxes
Fish Processing
Boat Slip Skirts
Boat Construction
Houseboats
Seawalls
Molds and Casting
　
Made in America

This was most of the info sent to me, missing are some of the technical specs and ATSM ratings...hope this helps any who are looking into this product...

 

[MicahR1]

Re: NewWood

Thanks to everyone for you your thoughts. Thanks a lot to the CEO for jumping in the conversation. I'll share a little more of my experience here.

A few days ago I had an opportunity to start on my seat backs. Here's how it went.

Having traced few seatbacks onto the NewWood with a permanent marker, I made my first cut. My jig saw had no trouble cutting through the product, though it was fairly slow going. You can tell it?s a dense composite material while cutting. As you cut the edges kind of ball up. I was pleased to see little balls of material falling to the ground and little or no sawdust flying into the air. (It was raining, so I was in the garage.)



After cutting I used a block of wood and course sandpaper to smooth the edges. That was quick and easy. I was interested to see what looked like cloth fibers sticking out at in one place. The feel of the cut edges is the same as the products feel in it?s whole state: The waxy feel is throughout (clearly not just a protective layer on the outside of the product.).



The application of the foam and vinyl was simple. The staples drove easily and seem to be very secure.


I realize much of this is what would be expected from the spec sheets, just thought I?d pass along my observations.

 

[jigngrub]

Re: NewWood

It looks great!

I'm just waiting for it to become available on the east coast.

 

[GT1000000]

Re: NewWood

It looks great!

I'm just waiting for it to become available on the east coast.

The latest email I got from Steven at NewWood, stated that they are trying to get these products out to us Eastcoasters within the next few weeks...He told me to ring him up in a few and check on the status...if I hear anything before it gets posted here, I'll holler...

 

[Bumperlt12]

Re: NewWood

Is it safe to say that this stuff could be used on everything above the sealed deck? Seat boxes, side panels, random panels that need upholstering and such? And costs less than half of the appropriate plywood?

 

[joewithaboat]

Re: NewWood

And costs less than half of the appropriate plywood?

1/2 inch A/B fir marine grade here is 50.00 per sheet. B/C even cheaper. This "new wood" is an interesting product for sure. However it is heavier and i doubt it would hold up in areas like seat bases, sundecks etc. which would be susceptible to sagging. Ill be redoing my sun deck this year and will be using good old fashioned Marine Plywood.