Thanks Glen, thanks Ron, I don't think I will be splashing by next weekend, still have to figure out how I'm going to do the stern section, it has jump seats that are in great shape that I have to recover to match the others I'm using, and Ron cutting out the side panels was easy, it was 10 4/8 wide the total length of the sides, I also want to do the dreaded trailer repaint, need to take the boat off the trailer and I don't want to take off the motor, any suggestions other than putting it in water I have some large 1 foot by 1 foot styrofoam blocks I was thinking of setting it on and no old tires.