My idea for invasive species..

[Xandre]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

If they'll bring back the old bounty system for invasives/vermin/pests there will be quite a few people that will figure out a way to capitalize on it and reduce these populations to near zilch... remember what happened to the Buffalo/Bison?

Not a bad Idea but harder to slaughter Gobies en mass than giant slow moving land monsters.

 

[scipper77]

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So after much debate I still would like to know if there is any way to sterilize a gobie? I really think there is merit to this idea. A bunch if sterile fish wasting there time dry humping each other.

 

[Xandre]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

So after much debate I still would like to know if there is any way to sterilize a gobie? I really think there is merit to this idea. A bunch if sterile fish wasting there time dry humping each other.

There is probably a way to do this but the challenge to me is how you implement the sterilization in enough gobies to make any sort of difference?

Let's say you caught and surgically sterilized 10,000 gobies...there are still 100,000's- 1,000,000's others out there humpin' and reproducing.

Now if there was a way for the gobies to pass the sterilization on to other gobies then we talking!

Like a Fish STD. wow.

 

[greenbush future]

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So after much debate I still would like to know if there is any way to sterilize a gobie? I really think there is merit to this idea. A bunch if sterile fish wasting there time dry humping each other.

Well the idea has been tried with a type of lamprey here in Michigan. And it did work, to some degree, but I don?t think it will with such a prolific breeder like the goby.
We also have a problem with deer in the metro Detroit area, and some one actually tried to sterilize the does. It only cost's about $2-300 per deer, obviously that failed due to the cost. The sad thing is, Michigan has 700,000 hunters just dying to hunt them, and they will pay for a license to do so, but the tree huggers have all but outlawed hunting here in any city environment(with a bow). So until then, we have the luxury of having more car/deer accidents than almost anywhere in the US. They kill many people every year, and it's only getting worse.

 

[Xandre]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

Well the idea has been tried with a type of lamprey here in Michigan. And it did work, to some degree, but I don?t think it will with such a prolific breeder like the goby.

That's interesting. Was the lamprey also an invasive species? The lesser of two evils perhaps?

 

[LongLine]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

IN NY, DEC asks that fishermen kill the gobies they catch & it's illegal to use them as bait. I would think that a sterile goby would eat just as many bass eggs as an non-sterile one. If you're going to catch them, why not kill them rather than sterilize & release them?

Yes, the Lamprey was one of the first invassives.

Tom B.
(LongLine)

 

[scipper77]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

IN NY, DEC asks that fishermen kill the gobies they catch & it's illegal to use them as bait. I would think that a sterile goby would eat just as many bass eggs as an non-sterile one. If you're going to catch them, why not kill them rather than sterilize & release them?

Yes, the Lamprey was one of the first invassives.

Tom B.
(LongLine)

My hope is that they will go through the motions of breeding preventing other gobie from successfully spawning. I just feel like there are so many of them on the lake that no matter how many you kill there will always be another to take its place.

 

[1980Galaxy]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

how about introducing predators (or MORE predators) into the system? that would help maybe?

the idea of adding a commercial value to them would work, i bet.

around here, i saw a thing on the news or somewhere that people are flushing old expired prescription meds down the toilet and it ends up in the river making the fish have two sex organs rendering them sterile. so go flush everything you have in your medicine cabinet down the thunder pot. Problem solved...

 

[fisherguy123]

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believe it or not we have rainbow trout here in Newfoundland now as an invasive species. They were brought in to be raised in fish farms and escaped and went to the sea and are now returning to the rivers as steelheads and competeing with the native Atlantic salmon and eating the salmon spawn and parr....not a good thing since we are one of the last great recreational fishing areas for Atlantic salmon.

 

[Xandre]

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I just feel like there are so many of them on the lake that no matter how many you kill there will always be another to take its place.

Exactly! There are just so many it's a lost battle.

 

[greenbush future]

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That's interesting. Was the lamprey also an invasive species? The lesser of two evils perhaps?

Yes the type of lamprey that was causing the native Lake Trout to die, was brought in to the Great Lakes on international boat traffic (we have a ton of commerce on the water here). We also have other native species of lampreys that don?t cause the type of destruction.
But they discovered a sent that these lampreys produce as the are ready to mate, and by releasing sterile lampreys and this sent, they have been able to control the reproduction. We still catch fish with these blood sucking killers attached, but it is rare. Kind of interesting how adding new species to areas has huge implications.

Some history on what can happen when man changes nature:

Boats brought in alewife?s (1950?s 60?s), so Michigan decided to put Salmon in to eat them, it worked but walleye and other natural fish declined.

Now we have zebra muscles, and they are killing off the lower end of the food chain by filter feeding all zooplankton. This in turn leaves no food for all juvenile fish.

Now we have gobies and they eat all fish eggs, which affects all species of fish.

The silver carp is the next big monster to attack the great lakes and because of politics, no one is acting to stop this, most of it has to do with our president and Illinois not wanting to block off a man made shipping channel from the Mississippi River to the great lakes. I guess some jobs will be lost in his home state so he?s elected not to do anything. If they get in (and most are sure they already are) this will ruin the entire ecosystem here in our Great Lakes.

 

[dwco5051]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

IN NY, DEC asks that fishermen kill the gobies they catch & it's illegal to use them as bait. I would think that a sterile goby would eat just as many bass eggs as an non-sterile one. If you're going to catch them, why not kill them rather than sterilize & release them?

Yes, the Lamprey was one of the first invassives.

Tom B.
(LongLine)

Not really. The invasive species that did the most damage to our environment came here in 1492.

 

[Xandre]

Re: My idea for invasive species..

Not really. The invasive species that did the most damage to our environment came here in 1492.

so true.