My favorite Democrat. ( Troll)

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Originally posted by Boomyal:<br />
Originally posted by TilliamWe:<br /> Gosh I love troll threads!
Yeah TW, it is kinda like a good piece of red meat, isn't it? :D
"THANK YOU THANK YOU VERRY MUCH" as the king would have said. :D :D :D the singer not the civil one.
 

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Forming policy based on idealogy is why we are in the mess we are in. It is akin to saying we know what the solution is before we've identified the problem. You wouldn't consider fixing anything as complicated as an outboard that way, and the problems the country faces are a heck of a lot more complicated than an outboard.<br /><br />I won't debate Clinton's performance here, other than history, fairly written, I am convinced in time will prove you wrong. Your assertions that Clinton inherited this wonderful economy defy comprehension.<br /><br />Do you recall the big debate in the 2000 election on how to best utilize the projected 5.6 trillion dollar surplus? Those were the days!!!<br /><br />And if you complain about the "huge" tax increase under Clinton (although I'm surprised anyone noticed it as was a small increase affecting only the very top wage earners) You will be appalled at the coming increase at some point when interest rates go up, and our bonds don't look so favorable to foreign investors, and we simply cannot sustain ever increasing deficits. Those increases (or concurrent benefit cuts) will dwarf anything Clinton ever did as we try to dig our way out of this current mess. <br /><br />Clinton (and his team) always took a pragmatic approach to problems--and more often than not his approach helped lessen the problems we faced.<br /><br />Yes, Bill Clinton is indeed my favorite dem...There are only a few current ones I particularly like, like Joe Biden, Harold Ford, and I used to like Howard Dean before too much publicity seemed to corrupt his message--<br /><br />The current crop of repubs seem to me to be mostly brain dead, with a few exceptions.
 

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Gosh pw2 were both democrats, me a conseravitive you a liberal. we still gona have a happy new year. Gotta remember whatever your doing at new year youll be doing all year. Its midnight here now, Im right where I want to be. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVEYONE
 

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There are only a few current ones I particularly like, like Joe Biden,
In the spirit of the New Year, all I will say is: That says it all. :eek:
 

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Good summary of some of the reasons we were in such a mess by 1980, rolmops. That was the legacy of Nixon and Johnson, but mostly Nixon and the street politicians who lost the war for us.
 

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JB, I do remember the 70's as you pointed out earlier. Like when the Presidency of the United States faced it biggest disgrace in the history of our country, when Richard Milhouse Nixon followed his crooked VP Spiro Agnew and resigned his office in disgrace to avoid removal. Then he appointed Gerald Ford with the agreement that they would receive pardon for their criminal actions.<br /><br />JB, the 70's was not very respectable time for the right Republican party.
 

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I sure agree with that last statement, txs. <br /><br />I am not aware of any "agreement" to pardon Nixon, and I don't remember Agnew getting pardoned.
 

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Originally posted by 12Footer:<br /> My favorite is also Lieberman. He is honest in everything he does, regardless of what others think of him.<br />
12, that is a crock. Go back and listen to lieberman during his run with algore, you could barely tell them apart. The only difference was that lieberman stutterred and stammered when he regurgitated the party line.<br /><br />I lost any respect I had for him as he sold his soul during that episode.
 

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> JB, I do remember the 70's as you pointed out earlier. Like when the Presidency of the United States faced it biggest disgrace in the history of our country, when Richard Milhouse Nixon followed his crooked VP Spiro Agnew and resigned his office in disgrace to avoid removal. Then he appointed Gerald Ford with the agreement that they would receive pardon for their criminal actions.<br /><br />JB, the 70's was not very respectable time for the right Republican party.
Possibly right on the agrement for pardon of nixon, I dont remember , what I do remember is that it was said to be the best thing for the country. I believe it was at that time. We didnt need to be drug through the mud by the world press anymore. Was a black period in our history and the country needed to move on. I liked Jerald Ford and felt like he done a good job of starting us back on the path of respectability.<br /> As a liberal you shouldnt go an the path of throwing stones at presidents for pardoning thier friends, I believe slick willie pardoned a few himself.
 

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Thats right Heycods, and don't forget the way they so graciously trashed the white house for Bush before leaving. That was a real classy administration.
 
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JB, I do remember the 70's as you pointed out earlier. Like when the Presidency of the United States faced it biggest disgrace in the history of our country, when Richard Milhouse Nixon followed his crooked VP Spiro Agnew and resigned his office in disgrace to avoid removal. Then he appointed Gerald Ford with the agreement that they would receive pardon for their criminal actions.<br /><br />JB, the 70's was not very respectable time for the right Republican party.
Yep, Pre. Nixon got CAUGHT in a stupid act. Pres. Clinton-did not. Why? because he had the adoring 99% (self admitted) Democrat major media to help him along.<br /><br />IMHO, Pres. Clinton was the biggest crook to EVER sit in the White House. When he's gone, our children will laugh at how bad we were duped.<br /><br />
Both Jimmme and Bubba are unrepentant egotists. They should take a lessen from GHWB.<br />
Agree.<br /><br />We may get "Egotist III" in the White House soon.<br />NOTHING is more dangerous than a woman scorned!
 

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JFK for the little saying "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." <br /><br />Something todays democrats just can't understand. It's too conservative.
 

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> JFK for the little saying "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." <br /><br />Something todays democrats just can't understand. It's too conservative.
That was the last good (Active) democrat pres. we had/ followed by a reprobait from Tx.,then Carter was a good man but inactive as a pres. Next came.... well we all remember him, and If we forget someone here will remind us. ;)
 

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In his day I saw him as a conservative democrat, just about in line with Zell Millers thinking. MY HERO.
 

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"Then he appointed Gerald Ford with the agreement that they would receive pardon for their criminal actions."<br /><br />Wrong sequence, txs. Gerald Ford was VP before the subject of resignation came up.<br /><br />Gerald Ford did not "pardon" Spiro Agnew.
 

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Originally posted by heycods:<br /> [Next came.... well we all remember him, and If we forget someone here will remind us. ;)
Heycods, this who you mean?<br /><br />
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Now thats the picture of a mighty important man. Did you know he became Involved in politicts because the tax rate for the wealthy hit something like 96% during ww2, Done the same thing during ww1. You think we can make txswinner happy by raising it to that level. we woundnt have any domestic woes with that kind of tax would we. ;) but I would think we should exempt the oil co.s from that tax. Just rich republicans should be taxed :D :D :D :D <br /> I was taking the democrat presidents in order the next one up would be Bi......l I cant even force myself to say it. ;)
 

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Originally posted by heycods:<br /> ....the next one up would be Bi......l I cant even force myself to say it. ;)
I can lend you a tongue depressor to help HC. Either that or you could just use your index finger. :p <br /><br />PBS just ran a replay of Reagan last night. They did a fair job of showing the good and the 'bad'. The net result was a portrayal of an extrodinary president. Shows that the Good Lord provides just at the right time. Wonder how long he will continue to do so?
 

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Though I disagreed with quite a few of Ronald Rayguns policies, I think that his time was, well....Timely! Who knows, maybe he was a Godsend......<br />I just hope that the last two lines above do not (in any way) suggest that Dubya is a Godsend!....JK
 
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