Mandatory Military Service

txswinner

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How about it, make everyone serve for 2 Years after 19th birthday, if not mentally incompetent, or totally physically disabled then no deferrments. That means no deferment for football knees, college, religious (non-combat status medic or other front line duty just no gun, and women get to go also.
 
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DJ

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My MAJOR regret in life is that I did not serve.<br /><br />I think it (service) teaches respect, honor and sense of belonging. I had cub/boy scouts, etc. Today, those are deemed as "old school". Guess what, old school types can read, write, do mathmatics and survive without government subsidies.<br /><br />I'm all for it. Todays youth need something.
 

alden135

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I've met enough morons to not support the mandatory service idea.
 
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DJ

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The military makes men and women out of morons. It's proven.<br /><br />Seen it myself. There is nothing like being scared *((*&less to make you re-think your life.
 

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Yea, as long as they were of sound mind and body, it would be good for today's youth.<br />Like DJ, I would have liked to been able to serve, but things happen for a reason is what they say.
 

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DJ, My experience has shown me that morons in the military are only a risk to themselves and others.<br /><br />With regard to your regret for not serving, don't be. If more people in this country would make half the effort you have (I read your other post)to be good citizens, we would be a lot better off. :) You sir have my respect and admiration.
 
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DJ

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alden,<br /><br />I appreciate your support.<br /><br />I think there may be "opportunities" for those that have not received some "real" education.
 

rosco_59

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I feel everyone should have to serve, I work with todays youths that have nothing to do but get in trouble. They know nothing and it will make a man out of them. The service teaches people what honor and respect, and can help morons too
 

alden135

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Originally posted by DJ:<br /> <br /><br />I think there may be "opportunities" for those that have not received some "real" education.
I agree with the above. I think we may be using a generationaly different definition of "moron" :) <br /><br />My definition: Moron- Pot smoking,sandal wearing freak who generally does not understand the concepts of the free market economy, has a complete lack of understanding of his/her civic responsibilities, displays a total disregard for common decency and lacks the ability to gainfully employ him/herself outside of the reach of public assistance. Must be all of the above to qualify. Those persons who fit some but not all of the above are candidates for an education and are not beyond hope. :)
 

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Manditory service to the country should be required of a males after high school, it would give them a chance to get their heads on straight and time away from their ediot freinds and mommey and daddy, if not fit for military duty, they could work in other capacities ( simular to the old CCC corps) everyone can do something and know one should be left out, in later years it could come back and haunt them. Unfortunitly the power brokers and politions of this country would never let it effect their children, so it would never happen, thats why they got rid of the draft in the first place, to put the burdin on someone elses kids--Bob
 

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Both male and female? Does it also include the children/grandchildren of congress, the President, or any other political office holder, or will there be special outs for these people. Any of these politicians that have children/grandchildren at that age with zero outs will most likely not support this movement. Remember, the armed forces are for the working class, those of us, much like myself, deemed expendable. I saw an interview about a year ago of a member of congress when he was asked if he would send his son to Iraq since he was in support of the bombing. His reply was that his son was married with a family. In other words, there is no way he would put his son in harms way. I have no problem with the feelings of this man, until he says we should send our loved ones over without a choice when he is not willing to send his. I think when it comes to sending their own blood over to fight on the front lines, there is an entirely different mentality. Bottom line, I think it would be very difficult to do this without double standards somewhere, somehow, for a special few.<br /><br />Before you get upset, my statement "armed forces are for the working class" is not necessarily my sentiment. I have a good friend that recruited for the marines for about 8 years and he has shared many recruiting tactics. It is not that they would not take a kid from a well off family, they just don't waste time recruiting them because statistically, they are much better off (numbers wise) recruiting a kid that is looking at a future of 9 to 5 every day. <br /><br />My answer to your original question, is that I would have a difficult time supporting this because of the double standards that would be in existance. I feel this even though I think there are a great many that would benefit.<br /><br />John
 

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I think alden is right to some degree. Some individuals are beyond hope, at least at that age. Generally though, I think it is a good idea. How it could be made fair, I have no idea. I would like to see the military compensate it's volunteers better (at least catch up with the civilian sector) and thus attract and, more importantly, retain the quality folks we really want defending our country.
 

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I say no. I don't mind the thought of pothead, anti-war protesting, hippie wannabes quivering in their boots on the front line and I totally agree that today's punks could use a big reality kick in the rear but one of the best things about us is that we are an all volunteer fighting force, no one is forced to serve. Israel does that but they're surrounded by much larger countries on their borders that want them wiped off the face of the Earth. China does that too but it's freakin' China. 'Nuff said. Heck, I don't know, I could be swayed but I'd rather have a military that wants to fight for our country rather than have a military that might have anti-Americans among the soldiers. ;) <br /><br />Edit: Just re-read my post and no, China doesn't have that policy. Got ahead of myself, my bad! My argument still stands! :rolleyes: ;)
 

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Originally posted by ErikDC:<br /> I don't mind the thought of pothead, anti-war protesting, hippie wannabes quivering in their boots on the front line
ROFLMAO :D :D :D <br /><br />Fun thought until your next to them. :)
 

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Well, it was good enough for me. Ill never ever "NEVER" forget getting that envelope in the mail in 1968. :eek: I imeadiatly thought I was going to Viet Nam. Went to Korea instead, Whew what a releif when I got my orders. <br /><br />They would have to make it like it used to be though, if you go AWOL, you go to jail. Its too easy to get out now. There is no accountability anymore for your actions. If you sign on the line, you stay in for the durration. Ill bet I would be sick to see how the troops are treated now, its too easy unless you are in for special forces or something, Im talking about the army, not the Marines.
 

Drowned Rat

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Remember, the armed forces are for the working class, those of us, much like myself, deemed expendable
Working class? Expendable?? The members of our armed forces are professionals in every sense of the word. No different than a stock broker or a doctor or a school teacher. In fact some stock brokers, doctors and school teachers are fighting for us right now. They are neither expendable nor sub-class. My opinion only.
 

txswinner

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You have all hit on my point precisely, only 1 yes one member of Congress (both houses)has an offspring serving in the military. G.W. knew he would never have to face the ultimate sacrifice. If these people did face the battle with their own, they would look at things a lot closer before going off half-cocked to a winless war. Thanks for your agreement. I also believe in a draft but for all not like in the 60's.
 

txswinner

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Drowned Rat, No one was trying to speak down of the people in the military. But Professional is bunk in many cases. In the USMC it is here is a weapon, here is how to clean it, here is how to kill with it. Now get in great physical shape and go kill the bad guys. Been there done that.
 

txswinner

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Hey Lube Dude, You and I could not own our cool bass rigs on a soldiers pay either. Up to E-3 is under poverty level.
 

ErikDC

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[/quote]ROFLMAO :D :D :D <br /><br />Fun thought until your next to them. :) [/QB][/quote]<br /><br />True, you'd probably have to cover your own *ss!
 
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