Johnson super sea-horse 33 electric

samo_ott

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Loosen the big top nut 1/4" or so but leave it on thus the flywheel cant fall off when you pop it. Most of us have learnt the hard way!
 

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Ditto. You can remove the flywheel nut completely to remove the plate underneath it which is held in place by those three small bots around the main flywheel nut. Once you've removed the plate, you can use is it as a washer for the 3 GRADE-8 1/4" x 20 bolts you got to use with your harmonic balancer that get threaded into the flywheel itself. However, before you begin to use the puller, reinstall the main flywheel nut per samo_ott's sugestion. Don't tighten it back down all the way, of course, just enough to keep the flywheel from possibly flying off. Put the plate you removed from under the flywheel nut on the flat, topside of the puller, then pass the bolts through the holes in the plate that the three little bolts came out of, then into the flywheel itself, but only go 7/16" (not quite half an inch). After that put the main, threaded rod from your kit throuh the center of the puller with the appropriately sized tip and begin to tighten it. The puller should remain level b/c all of the bolts have been threaded into the flywheel equally and the plate from beneath the flywheel nut you removed is now serving as a large washer essentially and is also helping to keep the puller level, with its FLAT side up.

After siting for years the flywheels can get a bit stubborn. Just be patient. It will come off. It's only held on by friction afterall. Also try levi_tsk's suggestion of hitting the center shaft of the puller with a hammer 3-4 times. This will often help to jar the flywheel loose a bit. You'll know it when it's free. You'll probably hear a loud "POW" sort of sound. You'll think you broke something, but you haven't that's just the sound of a stubbord old flywheel coming off for the first time in years. Go slow and be patient and you she'll come off. After that the rest is prety quck and easy, and replaceing the flywheel is much easier than trying to get it off. Keep us posted.
 

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Re: Johnson super sea-horse 33 electric

My vote - hand over $15 for a new one. It will give you at least 10% more peace-of-mind when you're 10 miles out.
 

nouseforaname

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Re: Johnson super sea-horse 33 electric

Ok got the flywheel off.. was much easier than i thought it was going to be!! thanks for the help everyone!!

Now i tryed to get some new parts for this motor but all i was told it was too old and id have to get 2nd hand ones, so i went tracked a 2nd hand dealer down and asked him if he had any parts, he said he wasn't sure and if i could bring in the bits i need and he can match the up!
So my question is should i take the whole magneto off and take it in or just take off the bits i need and take them in not sure what i should do?
i will need new leads and new coils from the look of them they looked pretty shot!! once again thanks for the help guys! cheers nouse
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samo_ott

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Wow, is that rusty. Never seen one that rusty before. No wonder the flywheel was tough to get off. But all the parts are easily available. Right her on iBoats. You can get the points kit (points & condensers) and the coils. The wires and plug ends I usually get at my OMC dealer but you could get em other places. (They might have em here, not sure) You don't need second hand parts. I would take a pic of two if the wiring so you don't mess it up and then I'd remove everything and then clean up the plate. Is there any other parts you need?
 

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yeah dont buy that bs about they dont make parts for that anymore !!!
do you guys have NAPA down there? they carry ALL the parts for your motor
it just may take em a few days to get them in

sorry iboats but its probably 40 bux to ship to australia unless someone knows different

nouse,
tell em you want part number seirra 18-5181 (get two of these) seirra part number 18-3006,(one of these) and seirra part number 18-5002 (one of these ) youll also want 2 spark plugs- champion jc4 if your gonna be running her wide open most of the time OR champion jc6 if your gonna do alot of trolling

those part numbers are two coils a waterpump impeller and a FULL tune up kit take a couple close up pics of the wiring and take everything off throw it away -save the screws if you can hose the plate down with carb cleaner and soak it in some clean gas for a few days let it all dry and once you get your new parts take it out wash it with a little soapy water -saturday i should be putting my magneto back together and ill take some pics as i go if you want

dont let em give you any crap man they just dont wanna have to look it up in the book OR if its a young buck he doesnt know how if its the former go elsewhere if the latter find the oldest guy in the place and tell him what you need if no luck go elsewhere
 

nouseforaname

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Thanks for the advice!! Yeah not keen on getting 2nd hand parts! worst comes to worse which is looking this way is buying the parts off iboats all in all worth the shipping as long as it makes it allright!

levi_tsk,thanks for the part no's, and would be good if you can take some pics on putting it back together.


ill take a few more pics of the wiring and then give it a good clean up.. hopefully have new parts to put it back together, if i have to order parts from overseas wouldn't mind getting everything i have to get at once to save on shipping so ill have to get list together and order em.. cheers for the help :) nouse
 

nouseforaname

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Ok time for an update!
Ended up getting the coils from the shop id been to twice before and just told them that ive been told that you have this part! they had them out that back all along !!:mad:

soooooo i have installed new coils, points and condensers .. but i got 2nd hand plugs they where in good cond. so now i guess its time to put it back on and see if i get spark!!
is there anything else i should do before putting it back on?:)
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Put her back together and invest $5 in two new spark plugs.
 

1946Zephyr

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you certainly did a nice job cleaning 'er up :D No reason it won't spark. One thing you might check before you slap it back to gether, is make sure the coils line up with the machined surfaces there perfectly. I use a utility knife blade to check for air gaps, up and down the coil face. If you see a slight gap on the bottom of the coil face, then that side needs to slide out a touch. If you see a slight gap on the machined surface, then the coil needs to slide back a touch. But I have found that a perfectly adjusted pair of coils will knock a bull elephant on his rear. :D

Oh and make sure that all wires are completely away from the point cam, or you'll be back to square one, fixing spark issues.
 

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.020 on the points and .03 on the plugs. Just my 2 cents? Don't ever use J4C spark plugs. I have found you get much better performance with the J6C's
 

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Ditto nouse. I have the same motor and you want to use J6C s'plugs. Points at .020" and plugs at .03". That should do it. good luck.
 

nouseforaname

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okies.. the points are set, i noticed the magneto was to tight after i tightened the screws!! the magneto doesn't turn.. ive used all the old screws and no the new ones!! thinking ive tighten the screws too tight or something, not sure whats ive done here:confused: cheers nouse :D
 

1946Zephyr

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Uh oh. Something is bound up. I would take it apart and see what happened.
 
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