Jetski behavior

[Home Cookin']

Re: Jetski behavior

Resident geese are a nuisance and should be chased--just don't chase them to Virginia! Wild (migratory) geese should be left alone. There is a place for all of God's creatures--right between the mashed potatoes and the green peas.

 

[Mark SF]

Re: Jetski behavior

I call them fruit flies on our lake because when you are skiing, wakeboarding or tubing there is a flock of them that follow you around like little fruit flies. I was able to bait 3 of them last weekend. I noticed the Sheriff at the boat launch and watched where he went to sit and watch on the lake. Well we got the family in the boat and cruised at about 15-20 mph to get a nice wake going. Within minutes 3 jet skits were riding within 50 feet of us. I calmly let them over to where the Sheriff was and BOOM! He got em! Hopefully they get the message!

Nicely done.

 

[RicMic]

Re: Jetski behavior

Let's ban guns also since they kill people, right? First you ban the jetskis, then you ban any boat that has a 2 stroke motor, then you ban any boat that doesn't run on batteries, etc etc etc.

Banning isnt the answer. Education and enforcement is.

Slag, you are just proving my point over and over, you are right, jetskis are not the problem PEOPLE on jetskis are the problem, put those same people on almost any other kind of watercraft and suddenly they aren't causing any more problems, so its not the people that are the problem, so people - jetskis = no more problem. You are absolutely right education is the answer, but that is not MY or anyone elses problem, thats the jetskiers problem, so if they want to pretend(like cigarette smokers) that the problem isn't yours, then you will find that banning IS the answer. I can tell enforcement is NOT the solution you are looking for, I was in law enforcement and I can tell you that in very short order, their solution to an uncontrollable problem is going to be eliminate the problem, not be babysitters.

 

[badkins50]

Re: Jetski behavior

Let's ban guns also since they kill people, right? First you ban the jetskis, then you ban any boat that has a 2 stroke motor, then you ban any boat that doesn't run on batteries, etc etc etc.

Banning isnt the answer. Education and enforcement is.

HEY, guns don't kill people, husbands that come home early do . hahaha. Sorry, not the right topic. "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?"

 

[lonesouth]

Re: Jetski behavior

Fortunately and unfortunately the lake I grew up on has been overtaken by hydrilla. This certainly keeps the fleas down, but makes recreational boating, skiing, tubing and such not as much fun also.

 

[justagirl]

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Slag, you are just proving my point over and over, you are right, jetskis are not the problem PEOPLE on jetskis are the problem, put those same people on almost any other kind of watercraft and suddenly they aren't causing any more problems, so its not the people that are the problem, so people - jetskis = no more problem.

Huh? Let me get this straight... did you really just write that an inconsiderate jet ski rider will not be an inconsiderate power boater? Really, are you serious? Isn't the entire SHT forum dedicated to inconsiderate, inexperienced, clueless boaters? An inconsiderate person is an inconsiderate person regardless of the vehicle.

Yes, there are plenty of inconsiderate jet ski riders, but there are just as many inconsiderate boaters. I have owned stand up jet skis, sit down waverunners, a 23' ski boat, sailboats, and now I own (besides a variety kayaks and canoes) a 15' fishing boat. By far, all the negative experiences I have encountered on the water have been from boaters, not jet skiers. Try being in a sea kayak on Lake Michigan when the idiots in offshore fishing boats are tipping back a few dozen cheap beers and making their way to the salmon runs. You would never complain about a jet skier again.

 

[MPII]

Re: Jetski behavior

I have owned two. I have also owned Boats. I boat more than Jetski. I can say, with no doubt, that the Jet Skiers are a real pain. They typically are "weekend warriors" or really young and don't know the first thing about what is going in the water.

They want "big waves" so they cut right behind you, follow you directly behind you, or cut in front of you without looking. I have had them following directly behind me when I try to stop and can't becuase they aren't paying attention and they actually appear to be a second from running right into you. I have maneuvered away from them, only to have them appear again.

I don't care what anyone says, the majority of people that own skis don't know what they are doing and have NO business being on the water.

 

[MPII]

Re: Jetski behavior

Yes, there are plenty of inconsiderate jet ski riders, but there are just as many inconsiderate boaters. I have owned stand up jet skis, sit down waverunners, a 23' ski boat, sailboats, and now I own (besides a variety kayaks and canoes) a 15' fishing boat. By far, all the negative experiences I have encountered on the water have been from boaters, not jet skiers.

I have to disagree with this, the percentage may be close but by far the average jet ski operator is more inconcsireation than boater. I've been on Lake Erie, Indian Lake, Buckeye Lake, Alum Creek, Lake Cumberland and more. On all the lakes I have ever been, jet skis are the biggest nuisance.

That being said, I too have seen numerous boaters that should also not be on the water.

 

[86 century]

Re: Jetski behavior

I love to watch the skis run around. I love it when they jump my wake or get way to close. Then I do the same thing to them. I love the look on there face when they can't out run an old aluminum boat that has decided to jump there wake a few times. Well fair is fair wright.

 

[RicMic]

Re: Jetski behavior

Huh? Let me get this straight... did you really just write that an inconsiderate jet ski rider will not be an inconsiderate power boater? Really, are you serious? Isn't the entire SHT forum dedicated to inconsiderate, inexperienced, clueless boaters? An inconsiderate person is an inconsiderate person regardless of the vehicle.

Yes, there are plenty of inconsiderate jet ski riders, but there are just as many inconsiderate boaters. I have owned stand up jet skis, sit down waverunners, a 23' ski boat, sailboats, and now I own (besides a variety kayaks and canoes) a 15' fishing boat. By far, all the negative experiences I have encountered on the water have been from boaters, not jet skiers. Try being in a sea kayak on Lake Michigan when the idiots in offshore fishing boats are tipping back a few dozen cheap beers and making their way to the salmon runs. You would never complain about a jet skier again.

I will quit complaining about jetski's when they cease to be a problem, just like everyone else. If you are on Lake Michigan and don't want to get bounced around by the big boats, stay out of their way! That dosn't work with jetski's, they go out of their way to annoy people. I sorta doubt any fishing boat on the way to the salmon grounds is going to go a mile out of its way to pull donuts next to your kayak and yet jetskiers do it all the time. By the way, I lived and boated in Michigan for 30 years, often seven days a week. I guess jetskiers are trying to convince themselves that they aren't a problem, because they sure aren't fooling anyone else. People don't like to argue, if jetskiers refuse to face up to the fact that they have a problem, the majority of people are just going to say, fine, no more jetskies and the arguments go away.

 

[TMoNeE]

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I will quit complaining about jetski's when they cease to be a problem, just like everyone else. If you are on Lake Michigan and don't want to get bounced around by the big boats, stay out of their way! That dosn't work with jetski's, they go out of their way to annoy people. I sorta doubt any fishing boat on the way to the salmon grounds is going to go a mile out of its way to pull donuts next to your kayak and yet jetskiers do it all the time. By the way, I lived and boated in Michigan for 30 years, often seven days a week. I guess jetskiers are trying to convince themselves that they aren't a problem, because they sure aren't fooling anyone else. People don't like to argue, if jetskiers refuse to face up to the fact that they have a problem, the majority of people are just going to say, fine, no more jetskies and the arguments go away.

Lol, if you are trying to get us to believe that a jetskier goes out of his way to annoy you as your are anchored to the side, thats just BS. Yes a lot of jet skiers are annoying, not because they are TRYING to be, but because jet skis are cheap to rent and so you get young and inexperienced people on them that dont know rules or whatever so they do dumb things like ride too close or jump your wake too close. I own a boat, I rent a jet ski now and again, ive never had a jet skier spot me from across the lake and head over to annoy me, thats pretty far fetched. It's obvious that you have an ignorant hate for them, which is funny since you have never ridden one.

The water is for everyone to enjoy, lets not forget that.

 

[slag]

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Lol, if you are trying to get us to believe that a jetskier goes out of his way to annoy you as your are anchored to the side, thats just BS. Yes a lot of jet skiers are annoying, not because they are TRYING to be, but because jet skis are cheap to rent and so you get young and inexperienced people on them that dont know rules or whatever so they do dumb things like ride too close or jump your wake too close. I own a boat, I rent a jet ski now and again, ive never had a jet skier spot me from across the lake and head over to annoy me, thats pretty far fetched. It's obvious that you have an ignorant hate for them, which is funny since you have never ridden one.

The water is for everyone to enjoy, lets not forget that.

Agreed

 

[Tig]

Re: Jetski behavior

That's just someone playing around with the geese. My dog chases geese too, but I won't ban her from doing it. I don't see why you were so concerned about these people.

It's already banned. Harassing wildlife is a crime around here, even for jet skis. Ironically, jet ski problems are why we must now have a boating license in Ontario.

 

[RicMic]

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Lol, if you are trying to get us to believe that a jetskier goes out of his way to annoy you as your are anchored to the side, thats just BS. Yes a lot of jet skiers are annoying, not because they are TRYING to be, but because jet skis are cheap to rent and so you get young and inexperienced people on them that dont know rules or whatever so they do dumb things like ride too close or jump your wake too close. I own a boat, I rent a jet ski now and again, ive never had a jet skier spot me from across the lake and head over to annoy me, thats pretty far fetched. It's obvious that you have an ignorant hate for them, which is funny since you have never ridden one.

The water is for everyone to enjoy, lets not forget that.

I could have spent a nice peaceful day out on the water today, but instead I spent a hot humid dirty day, repairing the siding and trim on my house. For years I lived here peacefully and then one day a squirrel chewed on the siding, it was a minor annoyance, but then it was two squirrels and then three and so on, I did everything I could to convince the squirrels to not create any problems, but squirrels just don't want to listen, so I could have just let it continue to be my problem and fix the damage or I could spend all my free time watching to identify and punish the guilty squirrels, but since its obvious that a lot of squirrels were involved and they wanted to make it my problem, I solved it to my satisfaction by removing ALL the squirrels by whatever means necessary.
One thing is very obvious, jetskiers have the same kind of manners on here that they have on the water.

 

[justagirl]

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I think you had better look in the mirror RicMC. The jetski defenders on here have been nothing but polite, you on the other hand have an axe to grind and are showing a slightly sociopathic personality. Did I say the fishing boats are doing donuts around my kayak? The fishing boats are not so fueled on beer that they do not pay any attention to where they are going. Going WOT and having no clue what is around them is foolhardy. Wake me all you want while I'm in my kayak, to me that's a better ride than anything Disney offers. I can handle and tolerate others on the water, I suggest you learn some tolerance yourself. Again, I stand by my statement that I find your claim to be incredibly naive that a jetskier is automatically a jerk, but if you put said jerk in any other type of watercraft they will no longer be a jerk. Ridiculous! You're claim that you know you would be bored on a jetski even though you have never been on one really reveals a lot about yourself. Your antecdote about the squirrels tells me that you practice vigilante justice against ANY jetskier you see on the water is frightening and is a potential disaster in the making.

 

[avenger79]

Re: Jetski behavior

Simple observation, I agree with you pwc's are not the only mindless toys. Most people don't need more ways to avoid useful thought.
Transportation? So is a kayak or canoe and then you get exercise without annoying everyone else.

interesting you'd say kayak or canoe, I have both. I have a less then wonderful opinion of boaters when I'm in either of them. I watched a boater flip a canoe with his wake on one of our lakes here. older gentleman in the canoe needed assistance to get it righted then off to shore and drain it. the boat didn't even slow down.
In the kayak I generally don't care what the boats around me do. I enjoy the wake they throw at us. kayaks are made for riding out the waves.
we don't get many skis out on the little lakes I go on and when they are out there they don't seem to bother anyone.

 

[RicMic]

Re: Jetski behavior

justagirl, I guess its says it all when a jetski defender thinks calling someone a liar, ignorant and a sociopath, when none are true, is "polite". The behavior of all the jetski fans on here has been immature at best. Its obvious that the jetskiers on here have the same attitude that they have on the water, "we can behave anyway we want and there is nothing you can do about it". Before this thread, I didn't really care one way or the other, but since the group behavior of the jetski fans, I am going to push for a complete ban on jetskis on the local waters, I figure that it won't have any trouble passing, since based on the behavior here, the jetskiers won't be old enough to vote or they won't be able to read the ballot correctly. After all YOU and the other jetskiers have repeatedly, misquoted and twisted my words and made up things I never said to make your "polite" points. I think anyone that can't make a point without name calling or fabrications needs to take a look in the mirror.

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Jetski behavior

What I'm wondering about is when will it become required to wear a helmet when riding a PWC....just like a motorbike.
I think that starting with the safety aspect is a good start for imparting any amount of responsibility.
As for saying the 'water is for everyone to enjoy'....holds as much meaning to me as 'the road is for everyone to enjoy'. not.
Regardless, most of the issues associated with PWC riders are a result of the stereotypical rider.....thats all it takes. That rider just happens to be a male under the age of 25, which is the highest risk driver, rider out there. Simply follow that further and you will find a group looking to take risks and inherent in that is endangerment if it occurs in a public area...which it does. Ba-da-bing.
Everyone here either Pro-PWC or Anti-PWC knows there are exceptions to the PWC stereotype....but a stereotype has to come from somewhere...and so it has.
Lighten up folks.
BP

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: Jetski behavior

This ridiculous debate reminds me of the ones about motorcycle riders in the late 50's--people thinking they were all Hells Angels.

 

[justagirl]

Re: Jetski behavior

Ric,
You have some serious anger management issues, I sincerely hope that you get help for your sake, your family's sake, and for any unfortunate and watercraft user of which you do not approve.

I don't see any instance where I twisted your words. You were the one that said an inconsiderate rider on a jet ski would suddenly become the model of decorum if operating any other watercraft. You are the one who stated that you will gladly eradicate and I quote "by whatever means necessary" any squirrel that comes in your yard. You used this anecdote as a comparison of your hatred of all jet ski users, even those that do not cause you any inconvenience. Scary!