Is my trailer adjusted right?

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Looks better for sure. And yes, what was said about the stern floating and bringing the bow down is correct. You probably want to drop the post another inch down.

Then get a bow keel support roller that will also help guide the boat in straight to the V-roller. Set the keel roller assembly up while the boat is loaded, Set it so the roller is just barely touching the the keel when fully loaded.

This will help center the boat but wont lift it off your bunks and will not let the bow go downward if you do float the stern when loading or unloading. The keel rollers also come with a little V to them.

And again, Because your strap runs above the bow roller, I would invest in a strap or turnbuckle to the trailer in front of the winch stand. Do not attach it to the post! Defeating the purpose is you do.

Gotcha. I will be stopping by west marine tomorrow and will look for that keel roller. Thanks

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Just my 2 cents

The boat should set on the bunks and keel roller level and adjusted foreword or back until you get the tong weight that you want
(About 5-7% of the total weight of boat, gear, and trailer)
Then bow roller should be pushed tight against bow adjusted to the height where the wench and strap is slightly lower than the bow eye (in the picture I would lower the stand to the lowest notch)
The wench straps purpose is to help keep the boat from sliding back its purpose is not to hold the bow down the weight of the boat with proper tong weight will keep the bow from bouncing (it would be important to know what your tong weight is as the boat sets now)
Of course you will still need safety chain and straps on the stern
It is also very important that the trailer set level when attached to the tow vehicle
When towing if vehicle and trailer is kept parallel then there is less work on your transmission and you will also get better gas mileage

This is just the wa I was tought might not make since to everyone

Harry

 

[Mi duckdown]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

I would also move the post down until the strap is straight to the bow eye. than go from there with tongue weight. you have deffentely changed you tongue weight, since your bunks are Now sticking past your transom. Every inch makes a huge difference. .02

The strongest part of the bow eye is when the strap hook is dead center on the eye.

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

I would also move the post down until the strap is straight to the bow eye. than go from there with tongue weight. you have deffentely changed you tongue weight, since your bunks are Now sticking past your transom. Every inch makes a huge difference. .02

The strongest part of the bow eye is when the strap hook is dead center on the eye.

I may try this. I did notice when i did drop the post down 1 more notch that the bow does not fit as snug in the roller because the lower on the bow the sharper the "V" becomes.

I bought it with the bunks sticking out 1". I made a adjustment to maybe make it flush, bust i have not slid the boat back yet. I just lifted the bow 1" and slid the roller under. Is the only way i check tongue weight by going to a weigh station?

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Just my 2 cents

The boat should set on the bunks and keel roller level and adjusted foreword or back until you get the tong weight that you want
(About 5-7% of the total weight of boat, gear, and trailer)
Then bow roller should be pushed tight against bow adjusted to the height where the wench and strap is slightly lower than the bow eye (in the picture I would lower the stand to the lowest notch)
The wench straps purpose is to help keep the boat from sliding back its purpose is not to hold the bow down the weight of the boat with proper tong weight will keep the bow from bouncing (it would be important to know what your tong weight is as the boat sets now)
Of course you will still need safety chain and straps on the stern
It is also very important that the trailer set level when attached to the tow vehicle
When towing if vehicle and trailer is kept parallel then there is less work on your transmission and you will also get better gas mileage

This is just the wa I was tought might not make since to everyone

Harry

Please see my post above about the roller fit when i did drop the post 1 more notch.

My trailer does ride level, so i am good there. I will drop it one notch and take some more pics.

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

http://www.rverscorner.com/tongueweight.html

check this sight it will show you how to measure tongue in your driveway
also after everything is set up and you do not want the bunks sticking out just cut them off
Did you get a keel roller of keel bunks?

Harry

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

http://www.rverscorner.com/tongueweight.html

check this sight it will show you how to measure tongue in your driveway
also after everything is set up and you do not want the bunks sticking out just cut them off
Did you get a keel roller of keel bunks?

Harry

I have not got either yet, because i don't see any that look like they will fit my post. Is it soposed to be mounted to my diamond plate in the pics above? This is the one i found, but i don't know how to make it reach the keel.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50802&subdeptNum=50814&classNum=50816

I am not sure how to read that tongue pic. Is the pipe for sliding the tongue back and fourth, or do i just set it up to the exact measurements in the pic?

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/Boat...pal-nuts-panel-brackets-keel-roller-brackets/

take a look at this

would it work for you

Harry

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/Boat...pal-nuts-panel-brackets-keel-roller-brackets/

take a look at this

would it work for you

Harry

These may work, thanks. I will check out my trailer and the dimensions and report back.

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

BEEN LOOKING AT THE ROLLER
NOT SURE IT WILL WORK
IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO LINE IT UP WHEN IT IS UNDER WATER
i DID SEE A ROLLER THAT WAS ABOUT 12IN LONG THAT i THINK WOULD WORK

mINE HAS BUNKS
iF YOU LIKE i CAN TAKE PICTURES ON SAT. AND SEND YOU

hARRY

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

BEEN LOOKING AT THE ROLLER
NOT SURE IT WILL WORK
IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO LINE IT UP WHEN IT IS UNDER WATER
i DID SEE A ROLLER THAT WAS ABOUT 12IN LONG THAT i THINK WOULD WORK

mINE HAS BUNKS
iF YOU LIKE i CAN TAKE PICTURES ON SAT. AND SEND YOU

hARRY

That would be great, thanks. Would it help if i had guide on's?

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Send me a picture of the boat on the trailer
I would like to see how the bunks ride on the hull
also get a good shot of where an keel roller or bunks will go
If you can do that we have a trailer builder just 1 mile next to the airport that helps us out. (WESCO)
I can show him what you got and he might be able to give you some ideas

Harry

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Send me a picture of the boat on the trailer
I would like to see how the bunks ride on the hull
also get a good shot of where an keel roller or bunks will go
If you can do that we have a trailer builder just 1 mile next to the airport that helps us out. (WESCO)
I can show him what you got and he might be able to give you some ideas

Harry

Appreciate it, pics to follow in a bit.

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

OK

Just got back from the WESCO factory

1st step
Make sure that you have about 10% tongue wt.
then
slide the bow stand foreward and raise the roller until it is just above the bow eye
slide the bow stand back until it makes contact with the boat.
run the winch cable under neath the metel bar that is infront of the bow roller and underneath the bow roller
and latch to the bow eye on the boat
A keel roller is not needed but
he said because of how close your keel is to the trailer frame (the picture with your hand in it) he would put a 10 or 12 inch V roller there
just incase you ever get a wave from the rear and the boat is shoved foreward and misses the bow roller
this roller does no have to make contact with the boat but if it does is alright
http://www.pacifictrailers.com/Boat-...ller-brackets/
you will need a pair of Adjustable Split Panel Brackets
1 Steel Roller shaft for 5/8 ID boat Roller
2 Pal nut for 5/8
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50802&subdeptNum=50814&classNum=50816
and a 12 inch roller from the page above

Check and see what it will cost you to do this
I can go back in the morning and get a price from him he said that he would ship to you

Harry

 

[Thalasso]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

OK

Just got back from the WESCO factory

1st step
Make sure that you have about 10% tongue wt.
then
slide the bow stand foreward and raise the roller until it is just above the bow eye
slide the bow stand back until it makes contact with the boat.
run the winch cable under neath the metel bar that is infront of the bow roller and underneath the bow roller
and latch to the bow eye on the boat
A keel roller is not needed but
he said because of how close your keel is to the trailer frame (the picture with your hand in it) he would put a 10 or 12 inch V roller there
just incase you ever get a wave from the rear and the boat is shoved foreward and misses the bow roller
this roller does no have to make contact with the boat but if it does is alright
http://www.pacifictrailers.com/Boat-...ller-brackets/
you will need a pair of Adjustable Split Panel Brackets
1 Steel Roller shaft for 5/8 ID boat Roller
2 Pal nut for 5/8
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50802&subdeptNum=50814&classNum=50816
and a 12 inch roller from the page above

Check and see what it will cost you to do this
I can go back in the morning and get a price from him he said that he would ship to you

Harry

Moving the bow stop (winch stand) and adjusting like you suggest isn't going to change the distance from the boat to the plate where his hand is. I agree that he should put a roller where you sugested

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

OK

Just got back from the WESCO factory

1st step
Make sure that you have about 10% tongue wt.
then
slide the bow stand foreward and raise the roller until it is just above the bow eye
slide the bow stand back until it makes contact with the boat.
run the winch cable under neath the metel bar that is infront of the bow roller and underneath the bow roller
and latch to the bow eye on the boat
A keel roller is not needed but
he said because of how close your keel is to the trailer frame (the picture with your hand in it) he would put a 10 or 12 inch V roller there
just incase you ever get a wave from the rear and the boat is shoved foreward and misses the bow roller
this roller does no have to make contact with the boat but if it does is alright
http://www.pacifictrailers.com/Boat-...ller-brackets/
you will need a pair of Adjustable Split Panel Brackets
1 Steel Roller shaft for 5/8 ID boat Roller
2 Pal nut for 5/8
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wc...toreNum=50802&subdeptNum=50814&classNum=50816
and a 12 inch roller from the page above

Check and see what it will cost you to do this
I can go back in the morning and get a price from him he said that he would ship to you

Harry

The first link is dead. I had the roller above the eye and it did not fit as svug in the "V" as it does now (see pics way above). That also puts my winch hook jammed into my roller with a crazy downward strap angle.

 

[chriscraft254]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

j1r11, Leave it the way you have it now, like I said before your "particular" winch post won't allow the strap to go between the post and the Bow V roller fits much better where it is.

I would run a strap or turnbuckle from your bow eye down to the trailer just in front of the post. A strap in your case should be just fine. This will just add extra security for the front of the boat to the trailer while towing.

Your set-up fine. Tongue weight isn't rocket science, simple make sure there is firm weight on the tongue, the heavier the tongue is, the better the boat will pull usually and it also helps the vehicle get tracktion at the ramp by adding weight to the stern tires of the truck.

The clearance between trailer and bow is not an issue and stern straps will keep the boat from slamming forward in a extreme stop.

Good luck and happy boating.

By the way, here is what I do for towing local. I have a turnbuckle set-up for long hauls but this quick strap does the job locally for me. It takes maybe 60 seconds to put it on. Again, just added security. I use a 10000 pound rated strap. The difference between the turnbuckle and the strap is the strap can get cut in an accident by sheared metal.

You can also see this is the type of post that will allow you to go through the frame with the bow stop above the bow eye because the post is angled upward. Yours is just different.

 

[captain zac]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Chris

The roller is not to protect the boat after its on the trailer but only to help protect the boat during loading

J1

I will go to Wesco and explain that when the roller is on top of the bow eye you cannot get a snug fit
he might have a fix
looking at your bow stand it looks alittle different than others I have seen

Harry

 

[j1r11]

Re: Is my trailer adjusted right?

Chris

The roller is not to protect the boat after its on the trailer but only to help protect the boat during loading

J1

I will go to Wesco and explain that when the roller is on top of the bow eye you cannot get a snug fit
he might have a fix
looking at your bow stand it looks a little different than others I have seen

Harry

If you look at post #1 and the first 3 pics you can see what i mean. I have only been in boating about 7 years, but it just did not look right to me. If you give me that guys e-mail i can email him the pics, unless he has access to this thread.

I found a 10" roller laying around. Should i mount it on a bracket like this just for the hell of it?