Iran Doesn't Give A Carp!

[Haut Medoc]

Kiss Off! <br />I say we push on to Teheran & pump thw MOFO's dry! No amount of diplomacy will work with these people, they understand action, not words....<br />I hope that the U.N.'s response is swift....JK

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Another Wal-Mart parking lot I tell ya.

 

[RubberFrog]

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Iran will have nukes and we will do nothing to stop them.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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Maybe they will "Nuke the border!"

 

[Kwas]

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I hope that the U.N.'s response is swift....JK

And just what response do you think that would be? My bet is that we will hear a booming silence from the UN.

 

[KaGee]

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Another "Oil for Food" scam just waiting to happen. <br /><br />Time to reinstitute MAD. I'm sure it's never went away, but time to voice it loud and clear and in Arabic.

 

[rolmops]

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In the meantime they are getting a fortune for their oil,and every time we threaten them in any way, the oil prices go up even more.<br />On a different tack.How would Americans like you and me react if we were told that we cannot develop certain weapons? I think we would tell, whoever tried to threaten us,to go do something unnatural.

 

[KaGee]

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You cannot have civil talks with irrational people, specifically radical muslims.<br /><br />Let them have them Rolmops. Just make sure they understand MAD.

 

[ztim]

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Look...they didn't get their fill fighting a long war with Iraq. Iraq fought the Russians until they gave up (Russians) and took their toys with them. They will always be fighting because they are too stupid (ignorant) to know any better. They arn't irrational...they just don't know. I helped train Iranians here in the U.S. and they just didn't get it. It's a mind set.<br /><br />We gave help to Iraq when it was to our advantage. Remember Robert K. Brown? How about Iran/Contra?<br /><br />Borders do not make any difference to those people as a whole. Never did and never will. As long as they have the clergy to "guide" them they will follow Allah and all them virgins to heaven. Sheesh.

 

[rogerwa]

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UN won't do anything for a couple reasons. The first two are China and Russia. The second is just an overall desire to snub the US or Isreal in any way. Thats really how it stacks up.<br /><br />I don't see the US taking any action on its own. However, I do see that Isreal can legitimately make a case for Iran being a threat and for them to try to nuetralize it early.<br /><br />Then we will take sides with Isreal. This will push the mid-east into a storm, which in the end may be a good thing. the thing to watch as this unfolds is what China and Russia will do.<br /><br />On one hand they don't want us as an enemy. On the other hand they want to balnce us from a power perspective. On the third, they do not want us to control the oil. I'd say they will side with Iran.<br /><br />WW3 what do you think?

 

[OBJ]

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A 2 thousand square mile glass parking lot. Bet ya' could see it from space........

 

[rolmops]

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We are joking around a little bit about this subject.<br />The terrifying truth is that with terror supporting nations in the possesion of nukes,the entire world is in deep doodoo.That includes Russia and China.Both countries have a suppressed moslem minority.Just wait till the terror starts exploding there.<br />We simply cannot afford a religious fanatic with a goal to be anywhere close to the trigger of a nuke.<br />With all due respect,Israel cannot fight a sustained conflict against Iran.Israel has the attack capability but it does not have the financial strength or production depth to slug it out over several months.<br />A combined Israeli/American developed anti ballastic missile defense system (Arrow)Has proven iself on the test range and is being produced.This means that the Iranian strike capability is much less then we may think.

 

[Skinnywater]

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I thought all the supporters of the Iraqi war and how it is being conducted were convinced that we were showing terrorist states what they are up against?<br />Superior strength and will was to quell those governments. Freedom and democracy was to unite those people in the region towards it.<br />That is the current policy. A failed one when you consider the alternative shown in WW2.<br />Iran would be shaking in the sand if we fought to destroy. Instead we've shown them how to beat us.<br /><br />So much so they once again hear "the paper tiger."<br />And we'll pay $80 bucks a barrel in rewards.

 

[ebbtide176]

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skinny, that's very true, IMHO<br />i hope we will at least keep the strong convictions against these power hungry despots as long as possible, and eventually get people to stand on our side.

 

[POINTER94]

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Good thing we have a UN. Useful little organization if you are a terrorist or a nutbag.

 

[rodbolt]

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can anyone show where there is an actual Iranian weapons program,yet. other than what US trained Irainians already know. having the theory is much different than an actual weapon. an actual weapon I imagine they will buy from india or Pakistan, both on the US bestest buddy list and niether a part of the non poliferation treaty.<br /> I really dont remember any russian-Iraq war however the US brought the bear to a standstill in 10 years of afghan-USSR warfare.<br /> isreal has a much better intel in the mid east reagion than we have or ever will, however isreal is NOT a friend just a mutual ally. there is a world of difference that sometimes is forgotten.<br /> who cares that iran develops a nuke as long as they dont develop a delivery system that can touch the US. its not our problem until then.<br /> if they develop a delivery system capeable of hitting russia or china then its a russia and china issue.<br />my bet is isreal will take out any weapons system that Iran develops once it becomes a threat just as they did Saddams nuke program in the 80's. how many here remember that? and the fact isreal told the rest of the world after the fact.<br /> as long as the US remembers we have no friends in the mid-east and only a few mutual allies we will be ok.<br />isreal can and does clone US weapons and resells them to nations/regimes that are hostile to US intrests, in fact there are current sanctions against Isreal for doing just that, put in place by none other than Rice and Rumsfeld.<br />always remember if it were not for the black gold Iran would be just like darfur or anyother african desert place that no one gives a rats arse about.

 

[Skinnywater]

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can anyone show where there is an actual Iranian weapons program,yet.

Respectfully rodbolt, the case can be made that Iran is the poster child of a terrorist state.<br />The "axis of evil", "state sponsors of terrorism" and a hotbed of extremism.<br /><br />I understand that the mistakes concerning Iraq has rendered US ineffective in dealing with the head of the snake. Time will prove to the minority that support the present policy just how flawed it is.<br /><br />

Good thing we have a UN. Useful little organization if you are a terrorist or a nutbag.

Surely one of their greatest tools.<br />If an absolute and meaningful response to Iran isn't 100% in effect by the UN by July, we should completely drop out of it then and kick them out of NY by the end of the year.

 

[rodbolt]

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oohhh I get it now, that means I can go ahead and shoot the guy down the street cause he is a biker with a hog and some tattos and therefor may one day be a danger to me.<br /> man I do like this conservative rehub thinking .<br /> that and he owns a GUN oh horrors.<br /> mmm axis of evil?? evil doeers? have i heard that before.<br /> maybe they have to wear their burkas backwards, now there is a reason to bomb them with shock and awe into complete submission. why maybe they are so shock and awed they will give up and throw rose petals to the coalition liberators if we threaten them.<br />other than lip service and a border war with Iraq when was the last time Iran attacked anyone ?<br /> I guess while Jr is making a mess for someone else to clean up he may as well make a big one.<br /> wish daddy could bail him out yet again.<br /> and while I dont particularly like what the folks in the middle east do as a whole can ya give me one credible link to any accedited scientific site that can state Iran has a weapons program?<br />India does and Jr gave away the candy shop, that will come back and bite us oneday.<br /> so rather than beat the fear drums of the 50's can ya give some scientific fact of a weapons program?

 

[waterone1@aol.com]

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I would say that we should continue our "experiment" in Iraq. Secondly tell Israel to do whatever they want with palestine and Iran, however we will not "bail them out". Thirdly, we should mind our own business with Iran. let them do their "thing" but make it clear, the first time we have any "problem" that can be traced back to them, we will fully attack. Not ground troops, but every single air and "other" weapon at our disposal. The US needs to quit playing street games. We need to leave everyone alone, as long as they leave us alone. As soon as they screw with us, we need to bring every weapon we have against them in one swoop, no playing, no "sensative war", simply....screw with us....you will be glass...period.

 

[Skinnywater]

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I understand rodbolt how many can be deflected from warfare both in policy and practice the way it's been played. <br />I predicted the will would be lost when we needed it the most. <br />And that type of collateral damage to our national defense is a result of the "neo-con's" experiment.<br /><br />Iran is a country, with a uniformed Army, with a government that is proactively talking the talk of war and is aggressively walking the walk to wage one.<br />They are making it 100% clear who they want to wage one with. In essence the declaration of war has been made. <br /><br />Now I know you've heard the phrases like "axis of evil", "state sponsors of terrorism" before. But you heard them long before even Bush #1. Don't ignore the implications of "state sponsor of terrorism" and it's ultimate purpose.<br /><br />If it would make you feel any better, maybe think of Iraq as a front of the "war against terrorism" a battle that we are losing. Don't let it be an excuse to lose the war.<br /><br />Ultimately this will be yet another example where the neo-con's blunders has compromised our credibility and national security. There will be a lot of tough talk from the administration. Followed by a whole lot of meaningless superficial Texas two-steppin'.<br /><br />IMO, of course.