Installing a new asphalt driveway

alldodge

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Install cost, having it done
Asphalt - 2 to 4 sq ft
Concrete - 4 to 6 sq ft

Maintenance
Asphalt - needs to be resealed every few years
Concrete - not required

125 yd = 80 sq ft or 1.65 sq ft to do by your self.
 

BWR1953

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Install cost, having it done
Asphalt - 2 to 4 sq ft
Concrete - 4 to 6 sq ft

Maintenance
Asphalt - needs to be resealed every few years
Concrete - not required

125 yd = 80 sq ft or 1.65 sq ft to do by your self.
Yeahhh... prices are different all over. 🙃

My asphalt quote is $1.25/sq ft for the current project and the actual concrete cost for my garage (almost 5 years ago) was $4.50/sq ft.

Mind you, I would really prefer to go with concrete instead of asphalt, but it simply isn't possible, or even worth it in my case. :)
 

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Yeah I need to cover roughly 600 linear ft of driveway . That’s if I do everything I want rather than need ..
 

BWR1953

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Yeah I need to cover roughly 600 linear ft of driveway . That’s if I do everything I want rather than need ..
I can relate to that. There's a 330 x 15 foot easement from my gate to the road. Right now, it's mostly sand. I've dumped sand, millings, etc. there and all it does is get sucked up into the center of the Earth in a short time. :rolleyes:

However, getting approval from the owner to pave that section is tough at the moment. :cautious: That may change in the future though. And of course, the cost of that section will be higher too. 💲💲

Here's a video about asphalt paving in general. There are others which show how to do a DIY installation, but that's not for me. o_O

 

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I did highway asphalt for 4 years. We averaged about 2-5 miles per day, only did city work if there was a big enough job for it to be worth it.
also made asphalt at the hot plant for much of that time.
I do prefer the two lift method over everything, as even small imperfections (not always readily noticeable) show through easy in the form of slightly thin spots.
For instance, when the screed on the paver is set, any stopping and starting of the paver inserts a small bump. The cause is the screed settles very slightly when it stops motion.
I would always toss 2 shovels over that spot and screed out the segregation, this is what the serrated edge of the lute is for.
The other major factor is where the concrete meets the new asphalt. Most tack-truck drivers are too lazy to do this right, but your going to want 100% tack coverage where the concrete and mix meet. And take the time to scrap the dust out of this edge, as you see on streets, every gutter that’s blown out is from the dust pile at the seam sponging up and blowing out the asphalt.

I’m in ND where the state sits on a lot of yellow clay and scoria. So for a lot of highway projects we use petromat underpayment to prevent heaving, though the winter usually makes it happen in time anyway.
Spent a lot of time with asphalt and frankly I quite miss that job!
 

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I did highway asphalt for 4 years. We averaged about 2-5 miles per day, only did city work if there was a big enough job for it to be worth it.
also made asphalt at the hot plant for much of that time.
I do prefer the two lift method over everything, as even small imperfections (not always readily noticeable) show through easy in the form of slightly thin spots.
For instance, when the screed on the paver is set, any stopping and starting of the paver inserts a small bump. The cause is the screed settles very slightly when it stops motion.
I would always toss 2 shovels over that spot and screed out the segregation, this is what the serrated edge of the lute is for.
The other major factor is where the concrete meets the new asphalt. Most tack-truck drivers are too lazy to do this right, but your going to want 100% tack coverage where the concrete and mix meet. And take the time to scrap the dust out of this edge, as you see on streets, every gutter that’s blown out is from the dust pile at the seam sponging up and blowing out the asphalt.

I’m in ND where the state sits on a lot of yellow clay and scoria. So for a lot of highway projects we use petromat underpayment to prevent heaving, though the winter usually makes it happen in time anyway.
Spent a lot of time with asphalt and frankly I quite miss that job!
Very interesting! I actually had to look up what scoria is. Neato. (y)

Unfortunately, the finished asphalt depth in my installation will only be 1 5/8 inches, so a double lift probably won't happen.

As I mentioned early in this thread, the project will be taking awhile. It's actually taking much longer than I originally thought. That's mostly due to availability of my neighbor friends.

A couple weeks ago we collaborated on the retaining wall structure design.

The upright fence posts were replaced by 8 foot posts which are augmented by horizontal cross-tie posts (some leftover, some new) which are held in place by rebar inserted through the uprights. Much drilling and whanging with sledge hammers occurred. Then corrugated steel was cut to length and installed on the cross-ties.

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The fenceposts were rearranged and laid out per the plan.
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Uprights and cross-ties were drilled to allow the rebar to be installed. The rebar went about a foot into the end of the cross-ties on both ends.
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Moving along.
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There was a miscommunication about the corrugated steel, so that became an issue.
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But it was installed nonetheless.
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And here was the retaining wall as of 21 Feb 21. Once the steel installation is finally completed, we'll lay the geotextile stabilization cloth and start ordering in the lime rock road base. The road base and compacted asphalt will provide structural strength against the side of the steel panels.

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On 28 Feb 21, my buddy came over and knocked down the second pile of dirt for the turnaround area and started the grading process on the east side of the garage.

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The turnaround area got leveled up nicely and a ramp was started between the house and the tree (where the tractor is) so that we can easily move stuff from behind the house to the driveway.
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This pad on the east side of the garage will be filled, expanded and paved into the rest of the project. I'll have a lean-to installed on each side of the garage once the driveway is completed and hardened off.
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And that's where we are now.

But! On 1 Mar 21, I got a screaming good deal on this little guy. :D

I was driving down the street when it jumped in front of my truck, waving its hands up and down and screaming "Buy me!" "Buy me!"

So I did! :geek:

It was being sold on consignment at a local tractor dealer.
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I really did get an awesome deal. It had been at the dealer less than a week. Yes, it needed a little TLC, but was at a price I couldn't resist.
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The dealer demonstrating the loader operation.
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Maintenance
Asphalt - needs to be resealed every few years
Concrete - not required
Don't let the driveway installers fool you.
Sealing the driveway is just cosmetic and does NOT need to be done.
Have you ever seen public roads sprayed with liquid tar?
My old boss/owner never pushed sealing even when times got difficult.
 

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Awesome little tractor. PTO, 3-point hitch, bucket... you can have fun with that.
 

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Don't let the driveway installers fool you.
Sealing the driveway is just cosmetic and does NOT need to be done.
Have you ever seen public roads sprayed with liquid tar?
My old boss/owner never pushed sealing even when times got difficult.

your funny
 

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As a result of the steel panel confusion, I had to buy more. But it was stronger and the correct length. We'll install it over the existing panels.

That's 40 sheets weighing 300 pounds.
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I also bought top caps for the sheets which will not only provide a finished look when installed, but will provide a safety factor by covering the exposed, sharp edges of the panels.
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I used the loader on the little Ford tractor to remove the panels from the truck and get them into the garage. :cool:
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In the garage, ready for maintenance.
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As I said before, the Ford 1210 needed some TLC. Specifically, the hydraulic hoses for the loader. o_O

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The tractor needed all new hydraulic hoses, so the boy and I started installing them. We got 9 out of 14 hoses done in one day. A major PITA, but progress. Turns out that a couple of them are too short, in spite of being the correct size per the spec, so we'll return those today.

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And now for the bad news.

My neighbor friends (brothers) have always helped me on an "as available" basis. That's why projects take so long for me. Sometimes they're not available for weeks at a time.

But late last week they BOTH contracted Covid-19 and will be isolating for at least 2 weeks. :cry: I hope that they have a speedy recovery. 🤮😷

Meanwhile, after the boy and I get the tractor hoses replaced, we'll have to "give it a go" on completing the retaining wall. I can't order lime rock until that's finished.

Once I do finally get the lime rock on site, I'll do my best to move it around with the Ford tractor. I'll leave the finishing touches to my buddy once he's recovered.

One of the asphalt companies has a 2-week lead time but the other has a 3 MONTH lead time. Yikes!

I hope that I can get this project completed before the rains come in June! ⛈️☔
 
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