I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

Zacd33

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Hey guys, I've always wanted a bass boat and recently stumbled on an elderly woman who sold me her Bomber Sportsman by Fiberking (unsure of year) w/ trailer for $100.00. The boat has a 50HP 1974 Johnson outboard and I recently took it to the mechanic at the marina who advised that the compression was good and he was able to get the engine to turnover using the electric start. The actual boat was dirty as hell and had been sitting for a good 10yrs without being used. Well, I cleaned the boat as best I could, ripped the carpet and rotted seats, and gave the boat a once over (although the pics would suggest otherwise). I'm clueless when it comes to boats as I've never owned one, but came to this website to try to educate myself on repairs.

I found the transom to be rotted out from the top to about 8 inches down. Today I removed the engine and top plate and begin digging in at the rot. I referred to this website and attempted to remove the skin on the interior of the transom to no avail. Using a skill saw and grinder w/ cutting plate, cutting the transom from the interior turned out to be extremely difficult as the wood seemed very dense after the rot stopped. In order to cut the inner skin, I cut the splashwell off and I'm not sure if this was supposed to be done. Anyhow, I was unable to properly remove the inner-skin so I researched a little bit more and found that although not suggested, you could cut the transom out from the back and glass it all back in? I also heard some hollow spots toward the rear and hacked up some of the deck like an idiot...

Well because I'm impatient, that's exactly what i did. I've attached pics and am begging for help! Is this is a lost cause? I just need this boat to be functional as I will be using it to fish on ponds, lakes, and rivers. Does all the transom wood have to come out? Did i cut far enough?

Anways...any insight would be greatly appreciated

Zac
 

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jigngrub

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

You mangled that boat real good Bubba!

If you had done more research you'd have found that you need to remove the top cap on the boat for easier access to the transom, without having to cut the splashwell or outside of the transom.

All of the wood needs to be removed from the transom.

While you're at it, you may as well remove your decking and replace your stringers too... or just scrap that hull and keep the motor and trailer and look for another hull.

If you decide to scrap the hull and find another one, start your restoration thread before you start doing any actual work to the boat.

In case you're wonder how a trihull restoration should go, take a look at this thread:
http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restoration-building-hull-repair/my-project-74-ebbtide-584261.html
 

Nivekt

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

You mangled that boat real good Bubba!

If you had done more research you'd have found that you need to remove the top cap on the boat for easier access to the transom, without having to cut the splashwell or outside of the transom.

All of the wood needs to be removed from the transom.

While you're at it, you may as well remove your decking and replace your stringers too... or just scrap that hull and keep the motor and trailer and look for another hull.

If you decide to scrap the hull and find another one, start your restoration thread before you start doing any actual work to the boat.

In case you're wonder how a trihull restoration should go, take a look at this thread:
http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restoration-building-hull-repair/my-project-74-ebbtide-584261.html

+1 Vote for scrapping the hull and looking for another. You got your $100 worth with the motor and trailer.
 

Woodonglass

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

What's your budget? The boat may not be worth the time, effort and costs required to bring it back to life. If the motor runs then you got your money back. Keep the motor and look for a better candidate. Just a thought.
 

jbcurt00

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

+1 for the start looking for a 2nd boat..... But I might also suggest that you read thru some of the resto threads, the 1 Jig posted @ an Ebbtide is a good start, and learn how a fiberglass boat is constructed & how best to dismantle 1 & not make a ridiculous amount of extra work for yourself.... Then practice dismantling this boat further, you already own it, you can hack it to bits, haul it to the dump whole, or take a stab at learning how all the parts & pieces work together, and how their assembled. That will help you know how & what to look for in a 2nd project boat, and how best to dismantle it too. Win Win. And you definitely got $100 worth of trailer & motor...

Good trailers w project boats are easier to find then running decent motors. A good running 70hp will be plenty for a wide range of boats. Happy hunting!

Another great place to start is Don's helpful how to's:
How To's and Other Great Information


And read thru the links in WoodOnGlass' signature line...

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Alwhite00

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

Wow, You did a number on that - I would probably keep whatever you can salvage and scrap the rest. At leasto you are only in it for $100.00

LK
 

Pmccraney

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

Yeah, I agree with the others -- she's a gonner... Keep that console and anything else that is easily removable and might have value... Keep the outboard and trailer and dump the hull...

I don't mean for this to sound critical, but if you do this again... "SLOOOW DOWN." Maybe post some pics on here of boats you are looking at and we can try and help you in terms of pricing, time/materials, restore difficulty, etc...

A boat restore is not a weekend project. Look at Trooper82, sphelps, GT1,000,000. They are all a year plus into their fiberglass restores... If you want to do a glass boat, I would suggest following along on friscoboater's Glastron Carlson thread... He is just getting started (on his third boat) and you could see him work from start to finish and basically just mimic what he does (as applied to your particular hull).

All that said, if you want to be on the water more quickly and have a project that you can restore relatively easily and inexpensively, look for a metal boat hull. However, even that will take a few months at best...
 

jigngrub

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

+1 for the start looking for a 2nd boat..... But I might also suggest that you read thru some of the resto threads, the 1 Jig posted @ an Ebbtide is a good start, and learn how a fiberglass boat is constructed & how best to dismantle 1 & not make a ridiculous amount of extra work for yourself.... Then practice dismantling this boat further, you already own it, you can hack it to bits, haul it to the dump whole, or take a stab at learning how all the parts & pieces work together, and how their assembled. That will help you know how & what to look for in a 2nd project boat, and how best to dismantle it too. Win Win. And you definitely got $100 worth of trailer & motor...

Good trailers w project boats are easier to find then running decent motors. A good running 70hp will be plenty for a wide range of boats. Happy hunting!

Another great place to start is Don's helpful how to's:
How To's and Other Great Information


And read thru the links in WoodOnGlass' signature line...

welcome.gif
to the iboats dry dock

Practicing on this boat is real good advice too, and you can even fix the mistakes you've made and use this boat if you want... it'll just cost you more time and more money for materials.

To completely remove the wood from your transom you'll need to remove the cap from your boat and cut the decking out about 12-24" from the transom so you can access the transom wood below the deck.

When you cut your decking back for transom access I'm pretty sure you'll find below deck rot (stringers and saturated floatation foam) and that's why it's best to just go ahead and remove all of the decking while you're at it.

All that said, if you want to be on the water more quickly and have a project that you can restore relatively easily and inexpensively, look for a metal boat hull. However, even that will take a few months at best...

... but, like PM said... it'll be much easier and actually if you can find an aluminum hull that'll fit your trailer and motor. Even with the added expense of a $400-$500 dollar hull you'll still come out about 50% cheaper than restoring that fiberglass hull and much quicker too.
 

coolbri70

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

that can be fixed, at a cost higher than another hull could be got:facepalm:
 

dorelse

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Re: I'm an idiot! Please Help!!!

Scrap the hull, keep everything that's good...and find another boat.
 
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