Re: Illegals sue and win Ranch
Originally posted by don flowers:<br /> There is something else we haven't heard. There is always two sides of a story. We heard the "New York Liberal paper" and what the lawyers for the "illegal aliens" had to say, but we have not, I repeat NOT heard what he has to say. Have you ever heard two opposing sides have the same story. I haven't. I would like to hear his side of the story.
Until he gets out of gaol you mightn't hear his side of the story.<br /><br />Here's a slightly different, and earlier view. <br />
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA050405.1B.ranch_rescue.23cc5d704.html <br /><br />Here's a range of views which, despite the site name, if you stick with the discussion and can separate the wheat from the chaff, descends into some moderately well-informed shades of grey that suggest maybe everybody (Suttons, Casey, illegals and all) is liberally covered in brown stuff.
http://volokh.com/posts/1124496007.shtml <br /><br />Maybe we're just left with a thug invited onto a property by owners not sympathetic to conventional law enforcement who reaped the consequences of unleashing a thug to stop illegals, who then by his unlawful actions dumped a gift right into the laps of a couple of illegals who wanted to stay in the US and were able to exploit the situation to get visas and damages as well. <br /><br />Or maybe Casey was a real nice bloke who offered his services to landowners overrun by illegals so he could shower illegals with blankets and cookies as part of his charitable enterprise, and the jury got it wrong in finding he had a gun at the time, which he probably mistook for a cookie jar?<br /><br />Who knows?<br /><br />One thing is for sure. Insurance companies would rather sacrifice the CEO's first born child than part with money they don't have to spend. If the Sutton's insurer settled the illegals' claim for $100,000, the illegals must have had an iron clad civil case, even if the criminal jury didn't convict Casey on the assault charges.<br /><br />As for being illegals, so what? <br /><br />If you murder an illegal, does that mean it's not a crime because they shouldn't be in the country? <br /><br />If so, it follows that if an illegal murders a citizen it's not a crime either, because they shouldn't be in the country. Or is one life more valuable than another? <br /><br />Illegals aren't that different, and no more popular in some places, than the home-grown Okies in the 30's who were moving about the US in desperation for a better life in places they weren't wanted.<br /><br />How about taking a few steps back and being proud that you live in a country which embraces the rule of law and treats everyone equally at law? <br /><br />It's what makes you more admirable to a good part of the world where law really does come out of the barrel of a gun, in the hands of people who could at best be described as primitive in their regard for the human rights which the US has enshrined in its constitution and laws for more than two centuries, even if like everyone else who espouses noble principles it hasn't always managed to live up to them.<br /><br />But it's still a far, far better place than most. That's why people want to live there. <br /><br />Large scale illegal immigration is a compliment to the country they're moving to and a rebuke to the contry they're leaving. It's not like Mexico has hordes of Americans moving south from the US.<br /><br />It doesn't mean you have to like it, or shouldn't try to stop it, but it doesn't mean the people doing it are any less human than you or shouldn't have legal rights, either.
<br /><br />Sure, as American's, we have the right to bear arms, but that don't give us the right to use them against each other.
