home defense gun choices?

[bonz_d]

Never tried casting bullets back then but I did use a lot of lead 148gr. WC and 158gr. SWC. Had a local shop that carried Speer bulk that back then was about 5 cents a pcs. Also used a lot of Bullseye powder.

Well this has certainly provided a good nice distraction from the latest mishap and has help with recovery. so thank again everyone. Going to watch more videos and have found a couple shows coming up that we might have to go wander around and look.

 

[southkogs]

Now for video watchin' and a fun distraction ... Google "Cowboy Action Shooting." Two six shooters, 30-30 over and under and a shotgun ... timed ... and ya' gotta' dress like a cowboy. Never bought the stuff to go do it, but it looks like a fun competition.

Oh ... and nearly anything TOM KNAPP does.

 

[gm280]

Never tried casting bullets back then but I did use a lot of lead 148gr. WC and 158gr. SWC. Had a local shop that carried Speer bulk that back then was about 5 cents a pcs. Also used a lot of Bullseye powder.

Well this has certainly provided a good nice distraction from the latest mishap and has help with recovery. so thank again everyone. Going to watch more videos and have found a couple shows coming up that we might have to go wander around and look.

bonz_d, sure hope you are recovering well.

Casting bullets is seriously addicting. Once you get everything up and running and the cast pot and molds heated up, you can cast more bullets in so little time that it would take some serious shooting to shoot them all up. I cast so many different sizes and types that I could actually never buy another factory bullet if push came to shove and things got iffy. But primers and of course powder has to be bought as well. I have used lots of Hercules Bullseye powder (now Alliant Powder) myself and use even more Unique powder for most mid-range loads now. Great hobbies for sure. :thumb:

 

[bonz_d]

Well I certainly have the time to watch videos so if anyone wants to recommend any on shooting, reloading, or guns please feel free or if you have a favorite shooting website.

Can't argue one bit about reloading being addicting. Have even been looking at the Lee Classic Auto turret press and that looks interesting. More so to me than the progressive presses. The old single stage are pretty time consuming compared to the auto presses.

Again getting curious about seeing what some of these many gun shows are all about and just what is available.

 

[jrttoday]

the last thing I need is another addiction!!! :lol: But there we have it; my 12ga Riot Gun is presently loaded with seven 3" triple O Buck Magnums. As I get older, that may be too much for me to handle? I could make the loads lighter, even as light as a flair gun, but no one seems to "think" that would stop a perpetrator? surprise! Could even replace the shot with a junkyard load (glass, pieces of wire, etc). Could cut the barrel down to make the gun lighter, but then I'm the law breaker...

 

[82rude]

her,s what you need for home defence ,anything else is just plain wussy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCFmSFvIZw

 

[snowforfun4]

My son and I just shot the S&W M&P Shield 9mm and Springfield XDS 9mm and cannot decide which one. S&W is about $100 cheaper but the Springfield has grip safety, which I like. I will carry somewhat, but not all the time. I shot a tighter group with the Springfield and my son did better with S&W. Anyone own both who can offer long term quality results. The Springfield seemed a bit better put together, but both being range guns, it is hard to tell how many rounds have been thru each.

 

[thumpar]

My son and I just shot the S&W M&P Shield 9mm and Springfield XDS 9mm and cannot decide which one. S&W is about $100 cheaper but the Springfield has grip safety, which I like. I will carry somewhat, but not all the time. I shot a tighter group with the Springfield and my son did better with S&W. Anyone own both who can offer long term quality results. The Springfield seemed a bit better put together, but both being range guns, it is hard to tell how many rounds have been thru each.

The Shield will weight less than the XDS. I don't have a lot of experience with them but the main reason I bought my M&P full size over the XD was the weight.

 

[bonz_d]

Don't know why but last night I was back looking at revolvers and the S&W Model 57 41mag. Also have come across a couple nice used Beretta 84 Cheetah's for a very nice price.

 

[gm280]

bonz_d, you do know you can never ever have too many guns! :thumb: :thumb:

Same with ammo too. :thumb:

 

[bonz_d]

yeah I think it's one of those syndromes, like MBS (multiple boats syndrome)

 

[angus63]

I have a dog house out front the size of a garden shed with a water bowl the size of a lobster pot. Even if I didn't have a 130lb dog to match, I think that is a good enough deterrent. He also has a 36" boat fender chewed to shreds next to his mat. This is why I never get a package delivered and have to go sign down at the Post Office for them!
I also own weapons, of course, in case the mutt goes Cujo one day...

 

[bonz_d]

2 dogs in this house. A barker and a silent stalker. The barker can be an annoying alarm, he knows when there is someone in the yard. The other will be on your back before you know where he came from. Both sleep in the bedroom with us.

Once seen the yard sign with the picture of the house dog. The caption on the sign read, he can reach the fence in 6 seconds, can you?

 

[lckstckn2smknbrls]

I bought a Walther PK380 for my girl friend. It has a modified blow back design with a lighter recoil spring. Making it much easier for her to rack the slide.

 

[JustJason]

If the wife is going to shoot it personally I would get a glock 17. If she wants range time with it, you can get some pretty light 9mm loads, just light enough to make the gun cycle. And then when at home keep it loaded with some +p hollow points. The glock is simple to use, it can safely be stored with a round in the pipe. (If you are uncomfortable with that it is a quick rack of the slide). And it is very very easy to use. Pull it out of the holster, point, focus on the front sight, and pull the trigger. If somebody really did break into your home your andrenaline is going to be going so fast that a little bit of recoil isn't going to other your wife. And you don't want to have to be fumbling around with safeties in the dark.

 

[gm280]

The only issue I have with having a round chambered and ready to go is, if the gun is a DA/SA or a revolver, then okay, but other wise do folks seriously know what holds the gun cocked in a ready to fire condition? I mere thousands of an inch hammer/seer engagement configuration that is just sitting there ready to be released. And knowing that, I can't have one cocked ready. So a Double action Single Action is by far a safer idea in my mind. Knowing how a gun functions will expose how cocked guns are mere thousands of an inch of metal between you and anything else. I am certain folks would never think such a setup between such a piece of metal and their life would be okay in any other situation. So why in a gun?

And yes I do know that safeties are supposed to stop an accidental fire. But again, are you willing to allow a simple piece of metal your only protection? I can't! So if you have a gun and want it to be ready to protect, either buy a DA/SA or don't have a round chambered until needed. I realize there are many that don't think that way. And that is fine. But I do.

 

[MTboatguy]

That is why I like my Daley .45, I can have one in the pipe and it is not cocked, it is a double action exposed hammer semi auto compact. Perfect little gun for home defense, my wife even enjoys shooting it.

 

[JustJason]

The only issue I have with having a round chambered and ready to go is, if the gun is a DA/SA or a revolver, then okay, but other wise do folks seriously know what holds the gun cocked in a ready to fire condition? I mere thousands of an inch hammer/seer engagement configuration that is just sitting there ready to be released.

I assume you are replying to my post. Glocks are striker fired. With any striker fired pistol the gun is never in a cocked position. There is no hammer to ****. A glock is just as a "safe" as a revolver. The gun simply will not go bang unless you pull the trigger. You can throw it off a bridge, drop it from a building, use it to hammer a nail. It wont go bang unless the trigger is pulled.

 

[bonz_d]

Since I've started this topic I've been doing a lot of reading and research on this subject, meaning hours on many different websites. The one thing I've come upon and found of interest is statistics and findings of results of using handguns as self defense and their effectiveness. It seems that even large bore rounds will not assure a one shot takedown or incapacitate an assailant. In fact the one that amazes me is the number of people that report that when hit with a high velocity round that they didn't even know they were hit. Now that is scary!

So what's the answer? I don't know. I do know that the wife is against having a shotgun.

 

[MTboatguy]

Again, another reason I like my .45, it is slower moving and with 230 of JHP they know they have been hit, it is the same round I carried as my personal gun while in the service and it did me well, often times high speed is not what is needed in a situation, a slower moving large caliber in a close range situation is very good. When I was shot in 91, I really can say, I didn't feel it and didn't know until I tried to get up, the pain came into play afterwords and virtually every single day since.

I don't worry about shooting through walls as it is only my wife and I here and the closest house is a mile away, so at the worst, it will go through a wall and impact one of my cars. In a home defense situation I want lots of kinetic energy hitting the target. I use Federal Hydra shock ammo, the numbers on it is not that impressive by today's standards, but if you are hit with it, it kicks like a mule.