Holding up the boat ramp!

cbavier

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

I've been boating for 40+ years and theres rarely a time I leave here not having learned something new.

Rob this is true for most of us. I too have over 40 years boating experience and I'm still learning. I boats is the best site by far that I've found and believe me there are many out there.
 

thenotsofreeboat

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

I certainly hope I don't launch my new boat for the first time around some of you folks. Maybe I'm reading some of these comments the wrong way or something.

Being a newbie to both boating and trailering I don't expect my first launch to be less than 5 minutes. I actually have no idea how long it may take me. I won't be setting up the boat while on the ramp. That's like going to the dump. Uncover your load while waiting in line so you're ready to toss and go. Common sense, right.

Sure I'll try and practice backing a few times and watch some experienced boaters at the launch but I'm not spending almost $27,000 to practice.

So it may take you an extra couple minutes to get on the water. Ok, leave your house a couple minutes early then.

I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers with this post, but some of these comments have seemed pretty rude and obnoxious themselves. We can't all be perfect boaters, but we can try.

I am new to boating as well and the first trip to the ramp was a pretty nervous affair but it gets better with time and confidence. The guys here do kind of whip it up a lot but they aren't talking about you as long as you are not trying to work on a boat that hasn't ran in 3 years on the ramp at 11:30. Start the boat at home before you go even a 27k boat might have a dead battery. The best advise I can give you when backing up is "If the trailer is going to the right turn to the right." Back slow and make sure everyone (kids running around as they get excited on the ramp is the thing I watch for most) is out of the way. I went Early the first couple times to make sure I wasn't inconveniencing anyone but so far I can pull it off faster than most there. Do the prep work in the area they give you at most ramps, and just relax that is what you are there for anyways. These dudes here know a lot so read read read and pretty soon you won't like half the people out there on the water too as they are rude or just plain dangerous. Happy boating
 

cbavier

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

If you do start the boat at home. Like notsofreeboat says. MAKE SURE YOU USE THE MUFFS!!!
 

fishrdan

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OK, I didn't read all 7 pages but have to add my own horror stories...

2 old duffers back in a 20+' boat, then pull it again out to undo the transom straps and back the rig back in at the dock. They proceed to remove the boat cover and stow in truck, then begin their long laborious task of unloading a weeks worth of gear into the boat. This 20-30 minute fiasco happened on a ramp that was narrowed down to 1 lane because of low water levels,,, on a busy weekend.

2-3 car loads of yakers decide that the whole 6 lane launch ramp is theirs and proceed to unload all of their gear and yaks while other boats are stacking up waiting to launch. Later.... as I was pitching lures towards the shore they decide the shortest path to their destination was directly between my boat and the shore,,, took every ounce of self discipline I had to not launch a 12" striper lure up on the deck of the leaders yak.

Latest experience was 2 families that launched small aluminum boats, then attached outboards, filled the outboards with gas and spilled fuel into the water. After the water was thoroughly contaminated they unloaded 3 days worth of camping gear and 200# of wood from their vehicles into the boats. I waited 15 minutes to load my boat on the opposite side, secured my boat and gear, took a leak, grabbed a cup of coffee at the marina and finally saw them leaving the launch ramp as I was hitting the road.

OK, thanks for letting me vent,,, I feel much better now....
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

I'm not quite sure what you mean by that so I won't touch it.

I've never had any issues with someone holding up the ramp as the only ramp I deal with is about 5 boats wide and has about 5 boats launch per day. You can camp out on it if you want. I know we've had issues with backing (my dad does great sometimes, sometimes I am laughing hysterically watching that weaving trailer manage to make itself somewhat straight into the water) but for the most part our boats are in lifts on a dock, so we launch at will with the flick of a switch.
 

cbavier

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Originally Posted by dtherrien View Post
seems like everytime i go out to the lakes..there is always somebody holding up the ramp.Today i went fishing with the wife and kids.When we got to the launch there was somebody there about halfway up the ramp...leaving.....so we wait....they were moving equipment around.latching boat down, talking....then we see the tailgate drop down....they had to put there boots on....i am starting to get impaitent now...after about another 5 minutes, they finally pull out.....leaving a bunch of trash right there on the ramp........so after fishing about 3-4 hours pull up to ramp to get truck.walking out i notice somebody going to back in....I get the truck....there still there....loating and moving stuff around....finally after ten minutes, they proceed to back down.my question is ,...is it proper to say something to these type of people? There are different areas to prep your boat before the launch.i can launch and load my boat in 5 minutes each way.Nobody ever had to rell me not to hold up the ramp...just seems like common sence!!! [Unquote]


Some people can't see past their own nose and others lack common sense. So I just deal with it. To say something to someone other than a suttle hint might cause a riot or anger them and just slow them down even more.
 

Robert185

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

I have to tell you that reading about some of these incidents make me glad that I put in at a marina that has dockhands there to help newbies (ME):D and to make sure no one blocks the ramps or causes problems for others.
 

extremez

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Well, I did it!! I launched my boat for the first time without the marina. I think I did pretty good too. At first I wasn't nervous but when we pulled into the launch site and I saw like 15-20 bass boats, a tent and about 50 guys standing around I thought "Oh Sh1t, fish tourney".

I waited. We got there at about 6:40am and the tournament started at 7:00. We watched a few boats get launched and I told my father to watch closely because he would be working the lines as I backed the boat in. Allready had all the fishing gear, lines and fenders and stuff ready.

Pulled the truck up, lined her up and started backing. Ended up to far in and the tires were a foot or so from getting wet. I jumped out to get the winch, saw my predicament and got my feet wet worrying about "holding up the boat ramp". Unhooked, backed in a couple more feet till she floated off and took off to park the truck/trailer. My father looked a little dumbfounded so i ended up grabbing the line and pulling her out of the way for the 2? footer that was just getting ready to back down. Launch, not counting motor warm-up, was about 3-4 minutes.

Retrieve was just as good. Took two attempts (my father pulled me off course) and a little finnese to get the boat lined up and still ended up just a little crooked. About 4 minutes.

I know my time will come probably but today was a good day. Even caught a few fish to make it all worth it.
 

gstanton

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Well then, you'll love "water lice"!

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sleddude5

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Backing advice:

-Hold a hand at the bottom of your vehicle's steering wheel.
-Look in your rear view mirrors
-While looking in the mirrors and backing up, if you want the trailer to go left, move the bottom of the steering wheel to the left. Likewise for right.

Jerry C
 

arboldt

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Two summers ago we had some issues with our boat motor, so did lake tests on a very small lake about 4 miles from our home. The DNR has a one-way drive around the launch area, with a small pier between each of the ramps.

So about 6:30 one evening that June, we got there and another boater had pulled their boat out and off the ramp, then proceded to take down the bimini, unload the boat of tubes, coolers, cover the boat, and in general secure it to the trailer, load everything into their truck, send the kids to the outhouse, etc.

They were totally oblivious to the fact that, though they cleared the ramp, they had totally blocked the driveway so no one else could get to the ramps to launch or retrieve.:mad: Had they pulled ahead 20' there would not have been a problem. We sat there in our car waiting for them to realize there were now 6 cars waiting for them to move. I was first in line. I did not get out of my car or say anything to them -- had I started, I'm sure that later I would have been ashamed at what I would have said.
 

slia67

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Extremez,

Congrats on your first successful launch.

It sounds like you did what you were supposed to do, prep the boat in the prep area. Get the coolers in the boat, put the plug in, remove transom straps, sunscreen for everyone, blow up tubes, etc.

It's the inconsiderate people (or maybe not knowing proper ramp etiquette) that really get some people's blood boiling. It's definitely not the new boaters like yourself who are trying to do things carefully and safely.

Doug
 

CATransplant

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

With six people waiting in line, I'm very surprised someone didn't tell the guy he was blocking the ramp. I certainly would have done so. But...I wouldn't have yelled at him. Instead, I'd have walked up and said something like,

"Excuse me, but your rig is blocking the ramp, and there are people waiting. Could you please pull up far enough to allow folks to launch? Thanks."

Then I'd have walked off. Now, if the guy's a jerk, he'll get all bent out of shape, but there it is. That's rare, though. The polite approach generally gets action. If it doesn't, well, you tried.
 

Andy in NY

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

I certainly hope I don't launch my new boat for the first time around some of you folks. Maybe I'm reading some of these comments the wrong way or something.

Being a newbie to both boating and trailering I don't expect my first launch to be less than 5 minutes. I actually have no idea how long it may take me. I won't be setting up the boat while on the ramp. That's like going to the dump. Uncover your load while waiting in line so you're ready to toss and go. Common sense, right.

Sure I'll try and practice backing a few times and watch some experienced boaters at the launch but I'm not spending almost $27,000 to practice.

So it may take you an extra couple minutes to get on the water. Ok, leave your house a couple minutes early then.

I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers with this post, but some of these comments have seemed pretty rude and obnoxious themselves. We can't all be perfect boaters, but we can try.

I'm a new boater too, still waiting for that first launch.

Im glad that your first went smoothly.


Does anyone have a good generic checklist? I need to make one, but am afraid im gonna miss something...
 

jtexas

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Don't rush, that's when mistakes happen. Take the time you need to do it right, no more, no less.

Once you get a routine, don't deviate from it. Not even to accept assistance.

Myself, I have a rule: once I have a transom tie-down in my hand, I can't set it down until the drain plug is IN!

That way, at least the boat can't leave the trailer without the plug.

Checklist:
Before leaving:
Fuel, with oil (if you premix).
Batteries charged.
Accessory test.
Test-fire main engine.
Grease trailer hubs.
Trailer tire pressure.
Trailer light test.
Safety chains in place.
Coupler lock in place.
Bow safety chain in place.
Dock line(s) coiled and stowed.
Anchor rode coiled and stowed.
Required safety equipment checklist completed.

In the pre-launch area:
Transfer any remaining items from truck.
Drain plug in.
Stow transom saver.
Stow transom tie-downs.
Make sure the drain plug is in the drain *not* the livewell intake.
Unhook bow safety chain.
Loosen (don't unhook) winch strap (except maybe roller trailers).
Fuel line primed.
Gas tank vented.
Double check the drain plug.
 

Andy in NY

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

Don't rush, that's when mistakes happen. Take the time you need to do it right, no more, no less.

Once you get a routine, don't deviate from it. Not even to accept assistance.

Myself, I have a rule: once I have a transom tie-down in my hand, I can't set it down until the drain plug is IN!

That way, at least the boat can't leave the trailer without the plug.

Checklist:
Before leaving:
Fuel, with oil (if you premix).
Batteries charged.
Accessory test.
Test-fire main engine.
Grease trailer hubs.
Trailer tire pressure.
Trailer light test.
Safety chains in place.
Coupler lock in place.
Bow safety chain in place.
Dock line(s) coiled and stowed.
Anchor rode coiled and stowed.
Required safety equipment checklist completed.

In the pre-launch area:
Transfer any remaining items from truck.
Drain plug in.
Stow transom saver.
Stow transom tie-downs.
Make sure the drain plug is in the drain *not* the livewell intake.
Unhook bow safety chain.
Loosen (don't unhook) winch strap (except maybe roller trailers).
Fuel line primed.
Gas tank vented.
Double check the drain plug.


Jtexas, that's a great list. I copied it and printed it out for when we finally hit the water... thanks!
 

Viking77

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

In regards to I CAN'T SEE!

Just mount a couple of of pipes with 2" PVC tubes on either side of the
the trailer towards the back and you will be able to see just find.
Make them about 3-4 ft high. If you don't like them there all the time
just mount a couple of metal tubes to stick them over then take them
off. It is also a great visual guide to load your boat back on your
trailer.
 

Lostreb

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

It's been a while since this has been posted to, but I thought I would share good moment for me while on vacation down in Laughlin, NV two years ago. The week before the 4th of July and the ramp is backed up for a MILE. 4 ramps into the water and it is taking a long time to even see the ramp. Our extended family is all there with 4 boats and 9 PWC's, all lined up and waiting. We can now see the ramps, great. We get out, prep our crafts while waiting so that we won't be holding anyone else up behind us. Then I get a brain fart, lol. Two of us are truck drivers, myself being one. The other owns two of the PWC's, I own a 16 footer. What if we prep everything, then him and I do all the backing down the ramps? The ramp is not too steep and no way can there be any slime on the ramp because of all the traffic on it. We will just back down, let the craft SLIDE off the trailors, pull up, stop, swap vehicles with our kinfolk, let them park while we do all the launching.
It took two ramps and 8 minutes to launch 4 boats and 9 PWC's!
After I had parked the last vehicle I launched from, I ran into one of the park administrators on the way down to the boats. She looked at me, smiled and said "You guys are good, too bad so many people don't know how to launch a boat".
I mentioned there were 4 lanes there. Me and my cousin took two of them doing this and the other two lanes still had the same vehicles in them when I reached my boat, and it takes about 5 minutes to walk from the parking area.
 

j_martin

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

3 of us snowbound Minnesotans decided to go fish Millwood lake in Arkansas one February. We hooked up the only boat owned between the 3 of us and headed down there. When we got to the boat landing about 3:30 Pm, a bass tournament was just pulling off. There must have been 60 boats idling just off the landing waiting for recovery.

In MN, where the normal wade and crank routine would take ten minutes, this would have taken till dark. We watched a few minutes, though, and were totally amazed. Each boat would bump the dock, one man would jump out, go to the parking lot, get the trailer. In turn they would back down the relatively long single lane to the ramp. As soon as the trailer was in the water the right depth, the man in the boat would drive on, and as he was raising the engine, the pickup and trailer would pull out into the parking lot. It went like clockwork, and in about 40 minutes we were able to use the ramp.

As soon as I got back to Minnesota, I converted my roller style, wade and crank trailer to a drive on bunk trailer with windboards. That was in the 80's
 

Wee-Heavy

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Re: Holding up the boat ramp!

It was the evening of July 4th, (I know?should?ve stayed home). We stayed out watching the fireworks from the water along with several thousand likeminded folks. When all was finished, we headed to the ramp to go home and found the creek buzzing with 15 to 20 boats in various holding patterns. The parking lot was another cluster of activity having been designed with a road only wide enough for one vehicle to pass through going in a circular pattern to the ramp, all else was taken up with parking spaces. Basically, from the highway to the ramp area you could not physically pass another vehicle, and the same is true while leaving. All of the 4 ramps were taken up with people getting their boats out of the water and onto their trailers and leaving. My brother pulls our boat up to a dock and I get off to get the truck and trailer while he returns to the creek and circles until I get a ramp. I walk through the parking lot, get my truck and get in line. All 4 ramps are steadily moving using this same method, one person waits in the creek in the boat and comes in once they see their particular vehicle backing down a ramp. After waiting 10 to 15 minutes in line, I finally get my opportunity and line up on a ramp. As I back down, I see another boat has pulled in and tied up at the ramp dock, completely blocking by brother?s approach. I figure they are going to unload and pull back out like everyone else so I can get loaded and leave.
After they unload the boat, a man proceeds to the parking lot to get their truck. I wait, and wait. Finally another guy that was sitting in the boat gets out of the boat and walks up to me. He tells me that I need to move my truck so his buddy can back down. &%$@# HUH? His ?buddy? is still waiting in traffic to even get to the ramp, much less back down, who does he think he is? I attempt to explain that I already waited my time in line and was here to get my boat to which he responds by telling me that his way of loading is the correct way and ordered me to move. He even looks at my trailer and says that his boat is bigger than mine and that I am supposed to move based on that mere fact alone. Did I mention that his new 27 foot SeaPro center console with new twin Yamaha 200s was so clean that it couldn?t possible have seen water more than twice in it?s entire life? Needless to say, but this went nowhere fast. Was I totally off base here?
Eventually, his buddy got the truck to the ramp area and they finally moved, but in the meantime, he successfully tied up a ramp for 30+ minutes because he simply didn?t want to pull back out and wait like everybody else. I had nowhere else to be and decided to wait him out. I realize that I could?ve just moved and let them get their way but?nah. He called me every name in the book except a child of God, I just sat there until he tired.
 
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