Help restoring badly oxidized bass boat flake finish.

Woodonglass

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Re: Help restoring badly oxidized bass boat flake finish.

Most of what I've seen/heard here on the forum indicates that once the flake boats get to this condition your only recourse is power buffing or possibly wet sanding. If the flake starts to come thru to the point you can feel it then your pretty much left to Painting the boat. Others may come along with different points of view. That's just mine.
 

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If compounding doesnt get the desired results, and you resort to wet sanding with like 1k grit or whatever...you may want to consider rubbing it all down good with a fiberglass wax and grease remover....If you dont, you could push waxes and contaminates into the finish and if you decide to refinish it, you could have problems..JMO

Pettit Fiberglass Dewaxer For Gelcoat
 

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Sorry.. if you cant get it out with a polish .. then your boned to paint.

YD.
 

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Looks like I'll have to clear coat it to bring it back to where it needs to be. The surface is rough if you feel it, should this be wet sanded before a clear coat to provide a clean flat surface or will the clear coat fill in the rough areas as long as I spray a few coats?
 

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Clear coat will not fill much of anything ..

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So your saying sand it smooth before spraying. I'm just afraid I'll remove too much of the flake that's left.
 

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So your saying sand it smooth before spraying. I'm just afraid I'll remove too much of the flake that's left.

Ayuh,... Ya can, but what's bein' said is Clear coat ain't a fix either, just another bandaid...

The original finish is Gone, 'n ain't never comin' back...
 

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I really wasn't aware the finish was gone, I'm glad you pointed this out.

I'm not a body guy and don't know a lot about this stuff that's why I asked, I'm looking for help, tips, and advice instead of obvious "your finish is gone"

When the boat is wet it looks great so a clear coat should leave it looking "wet" all the time like new. I looked at a lot of before and after pictures online and there are a few different clear coats I found that are specially designed for oxidized fiberglass. The results look great, better than new.
 

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I really wasn't aware the finish was gone, I'm glad you pointed this out.

I'm not a body guy and don't know a lot about this stuff that's why I asked, I'm looking for help, tips, and advice instead of obvious "your finish is gone"

When the boat is wet it looks great so a clear coat should leave it looking "wet" all the time like new. I looked at a lot of before and after pictures online and there are a few different clear coats I found that are specially designed for oxidized fiberglass. The results look great, better than new.

Ayuh,... 'n it's a Bandaid, good for a year, 2 tops... then it starts peelin' off again...

As has already been said, ya need to sand it smooth, prime it, sand smooth again, 'n Paint it...
 

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What type of clear coating are you looking at? Is it HI-UV clear gel or Automotive Clear urethane?..either will work, but you need to have the necessary equiptment to apply it properly. At a minimum, you need a compressor with at adequate CFM....10+cfm at 90psi should work with alot of spray guns, hoses, inline air dryer and regulator. If its the gel coat, you can use a resin/gel coat gun to shoot the poly...a standard HVLP spray gun for urethane clears.



You will also need to strip off most of the hardware, glove box, ect so you can prep all the way to the edges to avoid edge peel.

If this is more than you want to get into, then just polish it up the best you can, and go fishing ;)

If you want refinish it with clear, the steps would be:

1) Remove all hardware, seat backs if you can, and any other items that overlap the surface, that includes those screw in snaps in your pic. Tape everything of with painting tape and plastic.

2) wash the surface with soap and water, Use a surface cleaner (wax/grease remover) I posted above. This product is used to "lift" off contaminates before sanding. You apply it with a quality spray bottle, while its still wet, wipe in one direction with a clean shop paper towel (not the fuzzy home ones with flowers and stuff)..If you keep reusing the same cloth, you will but the contaminates back on the surface, so change it often.

3) Wet sand it lightly with a ultra fine grit wet/dry sandpaper, use a sanding pad so u get an flat finish without finger grooves. All those sharp edges will lose their color fast if u sand over them. Sand up to them from the panel over the edge just slightly. Same goes for final buffing with a wheel.

4) wipe the surface with acetone or alchohol to remove the fine particles. Let it flash off and avoid touching the surface from here on in.

5)Adjust your spray gun to a fan spray about the width of your thumb and pinky finger spread out in the hang ten sign..about 6 inches and test it on a piece of paper or cardboard.

6) lay down 2-3 wet coats of clear, wet sanding between coats if needed to remove orange peel, and stuff the will fall/land in the finish. Leave it in the sun to set up and harden before you do a final buff and polish with your 3m products. I wait weeks.

This was for urethane clear. For clear gel, the procedure is significantly different.
 

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Re: Help restoring badly oxidized bass boat flake finish.

As has already been said, ya need to sand it smooth, prime it, sand smooth again, 'n Paint it...

I don't recall anyone saying that in any of the posts in this topic. So no it hasn't already been said. A vehicles clear coat doesn't oxidize after 2 years.
 

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Dooley87, DO take before and after pictures and post them on here. I'm interested in how it comes out...seriously...
 

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Re: Help restoring badly oxidized bass boat flake finish.

I don't recall anyone saying that in any of the posts in this topic. So no it hasn't already been said. A vehicles clear coat doesn't oxidize after 2 years.

He wasnt saying it was going to oxidize in 1-2 years, he was saying it will peel off or delaminate. Your problem is you have worn your protective surface off already, and the rough you feel on the surface may be the flake sticking on edge thru the gel. Thats why I said to use a ultra fine grit, you have to walk a fine line between sanding deep enough to get a good grip, without further exposing the flakes. After you wet sand it, you will know if you can go ahead and clear it, or have to build layers of high build primer to build it smooth again, then use paint. You can use metal flake bronze if you want the look you have now
 

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I don't recall anyone saying that in any of the posts in this topic. So no it hasn't already been said.

Ayuh,... Did ya miss posts #2, #4, 'n #6,..??
 

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You're welcome. Ive never used that product and it says its a nylon and acrylic resin. Either way, the clean and contaminate prep is about the same.

Post pics or start a restore thread, I'd like to see the results also..
 

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Those posts didn't say paint is my only option, they talked about power buffing and wet sanding as well, things I haven't tried yet on the boat, we hand polished it before. Bond-o you really have nothing helpful to add to this post so maybe you can pick on someone else's topic. Just saying.
 

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Re: Help restoring badly oxidized bass boat flake finish.

You're welcome. Ive never used that product and it says its a nylon and acrylic resin. Either way, the clean and contaminate prep is about the same.

Post pics or start a restore thread, I'd like to see the results also..

Thanks zool, I'm sure it will be awhile before I start it, maybe this summer sometime. It's got to warm up here in Minnesota first.
 
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