glasspar lido

[88beast]

well new to i boats and i just got my first boat a glasspar lido i think.... but its pretty similar on google so hopefully the internet dont let me down. it looks similar to this one http://www.theclassicboathouse.com/glasspar1.html

well it had the original trailer but i traded my buddy for his bigger heavier trailer that didnt fit his jon boat as i will be towing it with a lifted ford.

now to the boat i think its a 50s model all is in ok shape little things here and there but it was in the water today. motor is a 9.9 johnson (for now) from the 60s or so. its got the center fiberglass tables (what are these and why do they exist) that i think need cupholders. the transom top plate is not so good but i will replace it with a piece of aluminum channel and the rest of the transom is strong and solid. it does not have a floor which seems odd maybe they didnt come with a floor as the plywood seats are low close to the floor. and the best option is the classic ashtray its retro and i like it. now the windsheild is um..... sorta old so if anyone knows where to get a new one thatd be nice.

since its a running fine preforming boat i dont plan a full resto but the paint is fading and has some cracks and everything needs sprucing up so im planning to buff the paint and see how it looks then go from there.

hopefully ill be at my buddys tomorrow to get yall some pics of it.

any tips things to look at or info on the 9.9 or boat would be appreicated thanks

 

[andgott]

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Lidos are nice boats- Lets see some pics!

That 9.9 is WAAAAY too small, though

 

[88beast]

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well got a ton of pics today and a bit done. i cleaned it out, put the new cap on the transom temporarly to mount up the motor and see where controls would go. so heres what i figured out the cables for the steering will mount to the motor ill need to make a custom bracket to lower them some but thats no big deal. the throttle well i took the cover off the motor and there seems to be a spot to mount a throttle cable but i need some help with that part or some time to think it out. \
now for pics

new transom cap still will need silicone to water proof it

 

[88beast]

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black trailer is original the big one is the one that will actually fit my truck
what you think?

 

[88beast]

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well theres a few things with the 9.9 one the local lake has a 10 hp limit and 2 it pushed a 14 ft jon boat loaded down with a good bit of plywood and 3 ppl plus radio and gear around the river with no issues just slow. i plan to get a 50 (max hp) after a while and after i get her looking pretty for river use.

the truck that will tow it
and how the truck looked when i got it to see how i cant keep stock

also today i decided that the throttle control will need moved off the side somehow either bolt it to the seat or to plywood off the gunwall (if thats how you spell it)

 

[sphelps]

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Welcome 88beast !
I like the boat and looks like your boys having fun with it already! Definitely could use a bigger motor maybe a 40 would push it good. But the 9.9 would be ok just scooting around with. Looks like someone cut the dash for a radio or something so you will have to fix that it looks cracked there also.
Good luck with whatever kind of restore ya got planed !
S.P.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

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Good looking boat. Like the bigger trailer.

Few answers I can give gunnel or gunwale same part of the boat.
Use 3m 4200/5200, don't use silicon.
Push that winch post back a bit so that the transom is sitting on that far back roller for support.

 

[88beast]

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ya thats my buddys kid he climbs all over the place he happened to be on my boat when i was trying to take the pics lol.
i know the winch post needs moved back thats on the list still so it sits right i think the boat settled on the trailer over night and it moved some. ya im not sure what to do with the radio hole to fill it or put a radio there and just repair it. but the truck has a huge cb and i dont know much about marine radios but that would be really cool.

does anyone know how to hook up a throttle cable for the remote operations to this motor? or where i can fine one of those aluminum corner caps for the rear?
also i think im going to wax her and see how it comes out for now any tips on wax or anything?

i saw a guy on here do a silver and red boat similar to this with a similar trailer but he added the walkways and all to the trailer. i think ill do something like that for the retro speed boat look when on trailer. so for the cap on the transom use that 3m stuff you mentioned not silicone? why? what is the advantages? and where i get this? i assume a boat store will have it. i ask because this "resto" will be just for the summer then over winter or this fall ill problly do it better. also i do not want to epoxy it to the transom as that will be non removable which once i find the right piece and get to bend it i want to still run the channel versus the flat, i think itll look nicer and protect better.

 

[TruckDrivingFool]

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I've read it quite often silicone has no place in a boat but never really knew. I got to thinking about your specific use and wasn't real sure why not the silicone so I Googled. I read some about marine silicones thought it has marine in the name but it even stated not for use in underwater applications, but that wouldn't really apply to your intended use.

But then I found what was a good enough answer for me - Culled this from here

An adhesive sealant maintains its seal even when stresses pull or pry the bedded components apart. The sealant stretches like the bellows joining the two sides of an accordion. This accordion effect can be especially useful for plastic portlight installations where the portlights are captured between an inner and outer frame. Although silicone has amazing elasticity, its lack of adhesion means any expansion of the space between the frames is likely to cause the seal to fail.​

So on top of the adhesion thing and seal failure there is the fact that nothing sticks to it (this I did know about it). So next winter you take it off and do whatever for your restore. Once you do put it back together unless you get it all out it could cause you major grief getting anything to stick to it again and thus creating a lasting seal.

I also found this from 3M and learned 3200 is silicone based but not recommended for much.

I'd say use some 4200 on it to ease your later removal. If you want to go local the boat shop/marina should carry it but you will pay dearly for it. If you can wait it can had for far less right here at iboats or various other online sources.

 

[88beast]

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so prettymuch try online to find it before the boat store? sounds like a plan

 

[andgott]

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That's a '58 or so Sport Lido-

It's tough to pin down exactly what year without knowing the serial number. You MIGHT still find it somewhere on the boat- there was, at one time, a manufacturers plate with it on there. The capacity plate that's there now was not original to the boat.

They were built to take a max of 40 HP, The 'ideal' motor would be one of the 35 HPs from that era (if you're looking for a vintage look, that is!). I can see that the dash plate thats on there is from a Johnson- the plate is a '58 or '59, so there is a good chance that's what the boat was rigged with.

Check the transom VERY carefully for flex. I've never found a glasspar from that era that didn't have rot issues. they didn't seal off the top, and water gets in.

Also, there is wood in the floor and the stringers underneath it. The factory generally did nothing to seal the wood that you didn't see, so it usually has rot issues, too. Check the floor for any flex. The stringers are tough- since the bottom compartments on most glasspars of the era are sealed off except for the drain plug. You almost have to cut an access hole of some kind to get to it, which is a good idea anyway. You can find an out of the way place, most likely back aft by the motor well, and cut a hole that you can fill with a screw-in deck plate. this will allow access to the bilge area for inspection, and also to remove any additional water that might be down there.

As for the motor- the 9.9 will push the boat, just SLOW. I had a 3.5hp on my 16' Glasspar when I first dropped it in the water for 'float testing', and it pushed her along just fine, as long as I had plenty of time to get where I was going! There may not be provisions on that particular motor for a remote operation, although I think that you can get a kit to retrofit it since it was a popular kicker on sailboats.

It looks like most of the original hardware is there- which is a good thing- since Glasspar had a lot of custom fittings. I do notice you're missing the chrome dash plate that says 'Sport Lido'.... I happen to have one in my parts stash. Get this boat all prettied up, and it's yours, free. I've also got the decals for the side of the hull, too.

-Andrew

 

[88beast]

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andrew you rock ill pretty her up right quick. thanks for the info that answers a lot questions i been wondering. also transom is good replaced a year or 2 ago and she is sturdy still not capped well but ill fix that. the only trim part i need is a cap thats aluminum and goes on the outside back corner it fell off on the test run. if need be i will weld something to the throttle cam to make a throttle but for now the plan is tomorrow to get her to the gfs house and work on her there instead of my buddys as 3 boats in his yard is enough. then once i get her up there its going in the water for another test. the only soft spot is under the drivers feet on the floor i think ill put the access hole there (aka bolt diamond plate over it to look fancy) for now but if its totally sealed and theres no water it should be good. as i stated before i want to get her good for a season or two and then a full restore.

 

[88beast]

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got the boat moved from my buddys today. next wed ill be waxing her and working on steering.

 

[88beast]

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well waxed half the bow and it brings out a nice bright red but i think im going to pressure wash before i do the rest. also i got the steering figured out now to figure out the throttle.

 

[SHOKENRYU]

Do you know the average hight from bow to the waterline?