Generator

[Concept30]

New member to the forum....

My question is that I'm thinking of installing a generator on my boat. The only problem is I have a center console style fishing boat ( Concept 30PF ). I have alot ideas, but just don't know if I should follow through with it or not. I mean for the offshore fishing I do I would use the heck out of it from charging batteries, to fishing lights, or just a numerous amount of things to do with it. What I have is new Troy built everyday generator that you would use around the house. But now they have come with electric start, & are very compact in size. Thought about taking the frame away and mounting the unit down in one of the storage boxes or bait boxes or possibly up in the cuddy cabin area. Just don't if what I'm trying to create is going to work or not. Any ideas from anyone would greatly be appreciated.

 

[arks]

Re: Generator

Not a good idea for at least 3 reasons:
- that kind of generator is not ignition-protected and should never be installed in an enclosed space. Gas fumes are heavier than air.
- the exhaust contains carbon monoxide and can kill. How can you safely vent it from an enclosed space?
- it'll be waaaay too LOUD.

If you're serious about a generator, spend the money for a MARINE model. They're more complex to install but are much safer to use- and quieter.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Generator

totally agree!!!!! like making a bomb. non protected ingition, gas fumes, BOOM,

 

[Concept30]

Re: Generator

Thanks guys for the feedback, I definately took those issues into consideration as far as exhaust fumes, heat, excessive noises. Looks like I'm going to be looking into the Marine applications. Not looking forward to the $$$$$ they cost. Most of them I have found are diesel and not gas. I would like to take my unit if & when I do install it and tie into the main fuel tank. So I'm not carrying an extra 5 gal tank around.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Generator

google genset, there are plenty of all sizes and shapes.

 

[lmannyr]

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Honda EU2000

Quiet, compact, weighs 50 pounds, 2000 watts. This unit should give you plenty of power for your needs. It even has a built in battery charger. How much? Cheap 1200 new or less than 900 if used. Its smaller than a suit case and about twice as thick.

Not marine rated but it is enclosed. IF you have a hard top, strap it down up there, or at the bow. Check it out on Honda's site.

Good luck and post back what you'll go with.

 

[arks]

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Looks like I'm going to be looking into the Marine applications. Not looking forward to the $$$$$ they cost. Most of them I have found are diesel and not gas.

I'm not a fan of using those Hondas on a boat. Yeah they work, but IMO it's an accident waiting to happen. Gas fumes and CO, not to mention the likelihood of dunking the whole thing overboard.

FWIW, last year I installed a Kohler 5KW gas genny in my boat. It was brand new and (after haggling with the dealer) cost me $7100 including a sound shield- but not including anything else, which added another $980. IT AIN'T CHEAP. Oh, BTW- I recommend you buy new. The current technology has made marine generators safer and more reliable than ever, not to mention lighter in weight. Mine is about 170#.

For me, installation wasn't all that difficult BUT there's a WHOLE lot of details that need to be figured out before pushing the start switch. If you're going to do this, read all you can about installing these things. It took me about 3 months of research before I felt comfortable diving into the job.

Here's a list of things to figure out before starting (off the top of my head):
-Where to mount the generator in the boat
-Where to install the raw water thruhull/seacock
-Where to mount the seawater strainer
-Where to install the exhaust thruhull with space for a water-lift muffler and hose
-How to run all the wiring (low voltage control and AC)
-How to integrate the generator power into the boats wiring
-Where to mount the transfer and start switches
-Where to mount the generator battery
-Where and how to tee into your fuel line
-Where to mount the generator fuel filter
-Where to mount the new CO detector in the boat

I know all this sounds intimidating, but if you break it down into specific tasks, none of them are beyond the ability of someone who knows his way around a toolbox.
The Concept 30 is a great boat and adding a proper marine genny will add greatly to its resale value, not to mention your enjoyment.

 

[Lone Duck]

Re: Generator

Honda EU2000

Quiet, compact, weighs 50 pounds, 2000 watts. This unit should give you plenty of power for your needs. It even has a built in battery charger. How much? Cheap 1200 new or less than 900 if used. Its smaller than a suit case and about twice as thick.

Not marine rated but it is enclosed. IF you have a hard top, strap it down up there, or at the bow. Check it out on Honda's site.

Good luck and post back what you'll go with.

Yep! It's called an inverter. Great little machine. I'm working part time in a rental shop for the winter to get boating money, and I service them all the time. Looks like a red suitcase and QUIET!!