Gebr Ihel Bruchsal ,,, dingy type boat

[A.Neely]

Thanks so much gentleman. I will sand all down a go with the advice given. IlI'll post some pics as I progress.

 

[Woodonglass]

IMHO, I'd recommend sanding off ALL the gelcoat and get down to fresh Glass. Then using Polyester Resin and 8.5 oz E Glass, Re-Glass the entire hull and then use some Home Made Fairing Material to smooth her out and then Paint it. this would ensure the hull was in good shape and Paint is SOOOOOO much easier than Gelcoat.
What's your plan for the Interior seating etc? I'd Highly recommend some hull reinforcement features i.e. full span bench seats and possible enclosing the forward deck.

 

[A.Neely]

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[A.Neely]

Build in progress

 

[A.Neely]

I've tried to upload more photos without success.
The motor has 55 9 06 7 ser. TD 20 mod. stamped into it.
can someone help me identify this motor? Maybe a 1967 Johnson?

 

[A.Neely]

I have patched the holes inside/and out. I put a layer of CSM down on the inside.
I have fabricated a foward deck out of 2 layers CSM and plan to add 2 more layers of cloth to it once attached to the hull.
I still need to do more sanding on the outside of the boat... what a chore...
I floated it in the swimming pool and the only leak was the plug ... easy fix though.

 

[garbageguy]

Cool little boat!
You mentioned "she will be a little fishing boat and something for my grand kids to learn the basics of boating on" and that you plan to have them take it out on lake/river. Besides paperwork (not sure what you need where you are), was this boat designed for the conditions you plan to have your grandkids use it in - will it need mods to be safe out on real water?

 

[A.Neely]

It was an amusement park bumper boat from what I have found. Only plan on using it in the coves and calm waters of our local lake and river. No big water for this boat.

 

[A.Neely]

For the bigger water and faster stuff my son will be the one in charge on his his. He was captin of his 18ft. Jon boat at the age of 8 and is 35 now.

 

[garbageguy]

Looks like you're making great progress and have thought it through. Good you have a pool to float test it. As I'm sure you know, be mindful of weight, each float test will let you know how much freeboard you're working with. I like the idea of a bench seat that can help structurally - maybe it could even have some floatation in it.

 

[A.Neely]

My nephew and grandson weight tested it. Nephew is 6ft and about 225 lbs, standing up in it like aqua man. Grandson added another 80lbs. She was pretty steady. I like that she's 4ft wide.

 

[A.Neely]

more stuff. i could use some help finding a manual for the motor. found it's a Johnson Sea Horse built between 1946 and 1949

 

[A.Neely]

about getting a Texas boat title for this girl?
I've been reading up on it but not sure which way to go. The last time this boat was taged was 1995. I can't make out the actual numbers . the state only seems to keep records for 10 years. trying to get abandon boat could take up to six month or longer. I have no history of past ownership as the rental property owner wasn't even aware the boat was there. The property owners gave me the boat and the property has been vacant for at least two years.
the motor was given to me by my ex-husbands (now deceased), wife. it belonged to his father who passed away 18 years ago.
my question is ... should i try to go with abandon vessel, home made vessel or antique vessel. there are no markings on the boat it's self other than the emblem and the very faded Texas tag. any input would be appreciated.

 

[Chris51280]

I would say it would be a homemade vessel by the time you are done with it. Or try antique. Probably have it inspected???

 

[A.Neely]

hi guys I'm back.
been working a few hours most days
on the boat, It's like a step forward and two steps back... fighting this south Texas weather heat and humidity.(about 30 miles from the Corpus Christi bay)
I have managed to apply a layer of cms and a layer of cloth to the bottom ... only leaving me with a thousand pin holes... I used a thin layer of Bondo glass to fill in the pin holes and smooth the cloth some,,, sanded it down and added another layer of cms only to develop lots of air bubbles,( this sucks) i feel it's a bit over kill for such a small boat, i just want her to be strong and last forever. .
I been reading a lot and trying to figure out things as i go.Seems the internet just keeps running me in circles about ( bubbles ... how to fix them),Sanding, cutting out , re-sanding,more resin more cms.

I ask questions about the polyester resins and get thrown to epoxy info.It's been kinda crazy for this Newbie. Searching fourms for hours for answers is getting old. Seems like every one is trying to sell a product.
I guess i need to know what works and what's "real". Cure times... waterproofing... is she gonna sink or swim???
Feeling a bit discouraged but not giving up!
With my hands up in the air, i just put another thin coat or resin over all of the bottom of the boat and I'm ready to flip her over and start on the top and inside.

On another note ... the motor... it's a Johnson Sea Horse TD 20 built between 1946 and 1949... found some holes in the gas tank. fixed those.It's a two piece gas tank (wow( was able to open it up and patch then from the inside and clean out about 70 years worth of gunk.

Talked to our local Parks Department and found that registering her as a homemade boat would be my best bet.

Any and all input would be greatly appreciated.

 

[sphelps]

Pin holes and air bubbles/dry spots are dealt with differently .. Pin holes use a bondo spreader and fill . Most use a mix of glass bubbles and poly resin as a filler or there are pre made fillers . 3m Premium Marine filler is a really good filler . It is a little pricey but a little goes a long way if your careful . For large areas mixing your own is more cost effective.
The bubbles/dry spots will need to be ground out and patched depending the size and re faired with the filler of choice .
‘There’s really not much to it .. Just rolling a layer of resin may fill in some pin holes but if you don’t sand most of it back down it’s gunna probably crack back through the paint . That’s with poly resin . Epoxy you could get away with just the resin because it is much more flexible ..
edit: sorry didn’t mean to throw the epoxy thing into the mix ! :joyous:

 

[A.Neely]

Making progress.
hi guys, I fabricated and attached the deck. Looks good to me...
I also have her hanging. with some pulleys and rope I figured out away to hang her up and roll her over as needed... pretty nifty i would say.
On the bottom i spread a thin layer of bondo glass to fill all the pinholes that developed from the cloth mat, then sanded and added another layer of cms.., CMS,cloth,bondo glass, and another layer of cms.
Since She is A dingy and i don't plan on trailer-ing her. I have added some front wheels. I didn't want to drill any hole in the bottom so I took a piece of 4x4 and shaped it to fit the best i could. usuing the bondo hair and bondo glass and layers of CMS. there will also be 2 rear wheels...

Okay so I'm a girl and a small girl at that.LOL:lol:. I'm going to build a ramp for my truck so I can load and unload her... :der::clock:

For the deck the initional mold was 2 layers of cms, to attach it to the hull. I trimmed it up for a good fit and riveted it into place so i could bond it together,,, a mixtuer of Bondo Hair first then Bondo Glass on both top and inside... then layered it with CMS heavy cloth, thin cloth and am debating on another layer of CMS . It's pretty strong as is...I can stand on it.

I have a little more fiber glassing to do on the sides and rear of the boat and I'm going to have to put some kind of transom on it to hold the motor ... the spot for the motor isn't quit big enough of a space for the motor mounting brackets to clamp on to so I have some more figuring to do on that.

When I have that done I'll be putting some foam down and installing the floor pieces I have already fabricated...then the seat boxes... One is a cooler the other will be a bait well.

On the motor the repairs to the gas tank are holding up nicely. I cleared the lines to the carburetor . and cleaned the carb itself, the float moved up and down freely when gas was added and let to drain. I'll be checking the points and magneto on it next.

 

[sphelps]

Careful looks like that section of rope on the back is about to break unless my eyes are playing tricks on me ...
Idk about the wheel thing set up . I could see it getting caught up on everything in the lake and creating a heck of a drag ..
Be prepared to get wet to get it untangled possibly .. I think you would have been better off with some sort of clamp on set of wheels .. jmho ...

 

[Chris51280]

coming along nice

 

[A.Neely]

well guys, she's finished
I can say that this has been an experience... and fiber-glassing and restoration of a boat of any size is not something to be taken lightly. She's not perfect but good enough for a first and one time project.
I still have to get the Johnson Sea Horse running. but for now i'm just going with a trolling motor,
I am in the processes of getting her registered waiting on the TWD to get the inspection done and assign her numbers.