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[uniquesnd]

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removed the rest of the floor today now I have to cut out the transom just dont have much daylight left after I get off work around 6 p.m. Hopefully I can get it cut out tomorrow! More pics for you guys oh and the foam is bone dry so I think I am going to try to salvage as much of it as possible!

 

[uniquesnd]

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Managed to get a little bit further today after work. removed the rear upper foam to get to the transom better and to remove the rotten wood surrounding it even though the foam seemed dry. I am trying to save as much of the foam as possible in this boat to save some cash. The transom came out with a little coaxing basically a sawzall and pry bars/Flat bars there is still a little bit in the channels behind the foam at the bottom going to try to get it out tomorrow with one of those oscillating multi tools. what is unusual is the foam stringers on each side were about an inch from touching the transom plate and the gap was tabbed over. I am wondering if I shouldn't fill this void some how to attach the foam stringers to the transom. the center bulkheads are engineered stringers of solid foam covered in fiberglass I am going to grind the glass down on these an wrap over them with some CSM. Well thats it for this update here are a few pictures of my progress thus far!:joyous:

 

[uniquesnd]

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Removed the very bottom corners of the transom today. I went ahead and cut the corners of the composite stringers out so I could access the area easier and sure enough the foam is bone dry and their is no wood in the bottom of this boat. from what I can tell it appears that this boat had foam stringers that were encased in fiberglass running along each side. You can actually see the fiberglass on top, bottom and side also they had a piece of wood fiberglassed in the center of the bilge to screw the bilge pump to. I think I am going to change this setup and put it off to one side or the other in order to allow a straight path for water to flow out and also use a piece of starboard instead of wood fiber glassed over. What do you guys think would you leave it in the center or offset it?

 

[uniquesnd]

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oh and do you guys think I need to do anything between the transom and the foam were I cut it out or do I just glass around it like a box pour in foam and glass the top to seal it up?

 

[uniquesnd]

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Removed the rest of the floor and wood around the gas tank today now to just do some sanding and start putting it all back!

 

[uniquesnd]

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So this is my first resto on a boat do you guys have anything to add? Do I seem to be on the right track?

 

[uniquesnd]

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Hello.......Is this thing on?

 

[Woodonglass]

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The strength of the transom comes from the tabbing of the glass to the sides and bottom of the hull you will need to ensure that the hull is cleaned back to approx 10" to accomodate this tabbing. I'd replace all removed foam. The first link in my signature below has some info on how to install the transom.

 

[uniquesnd]

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Removed the rest of the floor and wood around the gas tank today now to just do some sanding and start putting it all back!

So I have the transom ready to be redone ground it all down to fresh glass. So how do you guys think I should do this as it seems to be some type of engineered stringer with the transom. It seems to me that they laid in the first piece of 3/4 ply then glassed it in then they laid the next layer of 3/4 and glassed it in. then it appears that they laid the foam cored stringers in and glassed them to the transom but since I had to cut into the stringers to access the transom I am not quiet sure how I should go about putting it all back together. any help would be appreciated.

 

[uniquesnd]

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here are some more pics so you can get an idea of how it was done!

In this pic you can see the fiberglass between the two layers



and these were the pieces that tied it to the sides of the boat

 

[uniquesnd]

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just cut my plywood to start replacing my transom but when I checked it for fit there seems to be a gap between it and the fiberglass. I laid it on the ground in my shop and it laid flat so what gives? Any help is greatly appreciated!







Do i need to grind more off of the top edges of the transom? It seems like I had to remove more in the bottom/middle to get down to good glass so the top edges on the sides are a little thicker.

 

[chconger]

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Your old wood would have been flat when they built the boat. I do not believe a manufacturer would purposely make a curve in a transom intended to hold an outboard. My guess is that years of rotten transom wood allowed the fiberglass to pull out some with the weight of the engine hanging there.

Smarter people than me hopefully will jump in here.... But my take would be to clamp the fiberglass to your new wood with epoxy (or what ever glue is best) and bring everything flat again using the new flat plywood as the reference.

Regarding your foam.. and lack of stringers; totally beyond me. If it dry, I guess leave it alone. Nothing to rot.

 

[jbcurt00]

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It isn't immediately apparent from your pix if yours was curved, but yes, some transoms are curved.

Some have enough curve that it requires 4 laminations of 3/8" plywood to mimic the original curve.

If the transom was compromised enough, your motor was certainly heavy enough to distort the transom into that curve.

Hard to tell remotely via the internet. 1 of the reason to take LOTS of pix & LOTS of measurements.

 

[uniquesnd]

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the transom was so rotten it was like sponge board with small wood worms living in the layers so it is possible that my motor could have been sagging it. I can press it with my hand and get it to meet the board flush but its hard to tell with my eyes if it is curving the fiberglass. Also how could i have measured to tell if this was any different from the original transom?

 

[jbcurt00]

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Pix & reference before the cap or splashwell was removed, you might have been able to tell it was sagging, esp if it appeared deformed at the motor.

If the cap will fit w/ the fiberglass pulled straight against the plywood, PB the plywood to the transom skin & clamp it in place.

Use WOG's clamps:
"Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms"

 

[uniquesnd]

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Thanks for the reply's I am wondering if i took too much glass off when I was sanding the inside of the transom to get it ready for new wood and glass. I only took it down till i seen nice looking glass but i am sure i took a good bit off. I guess as long as the transom is solid and the cap fits back on it will be good because the plywood should keep it reasonably flat to put the cap back on........right?

 

[jbcurt00]

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If it was supposed to be flat, and the cap fits, it should

 

[chconger]

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From your previous images, It appears like that curve was in the glass, and the wood was flat, before you pulled the old wood out...

 

[uniquesnd]

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good eye chconger I looked over my photos and did not even notice that!

 

[uniquesnd]

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used the router to make an exact copy of my first transom piece! One question though can I use the screws to keep them together while the fiberglass between them is setting up and then fill in the holes with peanut butter or should I just leave them in there and glass over them?