Evinrude 1916 model D

[Math.?.]

I just bought an evinrude model d. I think it is a 1916. Can some one tell me if it is worth some thing,if i can find peces for it and where.

 

[freddyray21]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

go to The Antique Outboard Motor Club Website - AOMCI.org

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Thanks but I can't find anything about my evinrude model d on this site.
Anything else?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

All of my model lists put it at 1916 as well.

It really depends on what you are looking for specifically? Some AOMCI members will have certain items from parts, other members machine the actual part needed.

Post some pics if you can.

If you are trying to sell it, the webvertize is a good place to start. It is not going to get you rich by any means, but worth more than scrap value. Cosmetic condition is everything.

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Here is a picture.
And no, i am not trying to sell it, i want to restore it.

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

AOMCI members may be able to point you in the right direction as far as paint colors, polishing techniques, decal sources, etc. Their forums are pretty active and a good source for getting the info you'll need...

 

[HighTrim]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Is that serial number 65000 something? If it is might not be a 1916. I have the 1916 model D starting at serial number 66000. I cant quite make out the number though.

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Yes, model d, serial 65 043.
Does it make it a 1915?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I posted your pics to your post at aomci....Ill let Chris (T2) field it, he is the resident expert on the row boat motors and their vintage.

 

[Evil T2]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I did answer this on the AOMCI board, but I'll post it here in case a non-member wants to read it.

After reviewing what I can see in your photos, it would appear that your motor is likely a later vintage Model A Evinrude with a Model D tank grafted onto it. There are several reasons that I say this;

1) It has a reversing lower unit which was not available on the Model D. It also looks to have a rotating tiller handle, again typical of the Model A reversing rowboat motor.
2) It looks to have a water-cooled muffler on it, but I can't see the manifold so I'm not sure which style (hot or wet) exhaust is actually on the motor
3) The tank mount has been altered, as the normal mounting method is to for the tank to have a bracket soldered onto it that simply sits down on the crankcase; the tank has threaded bosses on it for bolts that go through the crankcase flange and run into the tank. Your motor has metal pieces (adapters, if you will) in between the tank and the crankcase flange that should not be there for the simple reason that if it was the proper tank for that motor (or the tank had the proper bracket on it), then it would fit properly without the adapter arms.
4) Your motor appears to have the later 3-piece crankcase construction, with a cast iron mid-section and two bronze bearing ends (top & bottom) that are held in place by 6 bolts each; all of the Model D Evinrudes that I've seen so far were all 1915 motors and had the two-piece bronze crankcase held together by only five (5) screws, three of which are also the gas tank mounting bolts.

Based on the book data that says 1916 Model D motor numbers started at 66,000, I'd say that the ID plate on your motor falls into the 1915 category, but to be honest. I believe what you have there is a Model A evinrude of unverified vintage that has received a 1915 Model D tank transplant.

Of course, I can always be wrong, so perhaps more a more thorough collection of images from your motor will tell us about something that I'm not seeing.

Hope this helps.

Best,
T2

 

[steelespike]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I've been on here 10 years and I'm still amazed how quickly we can get information from the experts
for some pretty obscure marine gear.
Over night we were able to get detailed info on a 97 year old motor.
Chris posted the pics and T2 took the time to do the research and post it for all of us.
I am humbled by their knowledge and effort.
Happy holidays to all.

 

[nwcove]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I've been on here 10 years and I'm still amazed how quickly we can get information from the experts
for some pretty obscure marine gear.
Over night we were able to get detailed info on a 97 year old motor.
Chris posted the pics and T2 took the time to do the research and post it for all of us.
I am humbled by their knowledge and effort.
Happy holidays to all.

a BIG +1^^^ on that steelespike. its truely amazing the knowledge that gets passed along regarding the oldies.....and the newer motors.

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I will answer the suspitions of T2 point by point.
1)yes it has the cromed rotating tiller handle.
2)yes, the wather goes from the pump to the motor and after to the muffler.
3)yes the tank mout has been alterated but it look's that it was made by the compagnie.
4)here is a picture ogf the crankcase...
And some more random pictures...

 

[Evil T2]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Ok, I'm more convinced that its a Model A reversing Evinrude with the Model D tank. Those small metal "arms" used to attach the tank to the crankcase are not factory parts. I'll attach a photo of the underneath of an Evinrude motor with the two-piece bronze crankcase to illustrate how the tank should actually be fastened to the motor. Your model D tank would fit the correct crankcase in the very same way. What has been done is that the arms or extensions have been utilized in order to fit the Model D tank with its large bolt circle pattern to a motor with a smaller bolt circle pattern for attaching the tank bracket.

Hope this helps.

Best,
T2

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

Ok,I dont know what happened to this motor for it to have a model D tank and a 1915 serial number...
What year do you think is it?
Is it still possible to buy a new ignition system for this motor?

 

[HighTrim]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

I think as T2 stated, it parts have different years. Likely mainly a 1915 Model A with a Model D tank.

Things happen over the years, quite common on these old motors. May have dropped themotor, damaged the tank, and had to replace with what he had. Who knows.

I wouldnt say you can buy "new"...you can get good coils, or have them rewound. Have you tested it yet?

 

[Math.?.]

Re: Evinrude 1916 model D

No, right now i am rebuilting a hus-ski.(an old 1966 snowmobile)
And I am just going to start to rebuilt the motor this summer.

 

[HighTrim]

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Cool....havent seen one of those before!

 

[Math.?.]

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Will post pictures when it's finish...
~2 weeks~

 

[rothfm]

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I'm smiling reading this and agree with the prior post, pretty amazing what people know out there, and the willingness to share....Nice thread. Yikes, and I thought the 1984 I'm restoring was OLD!!!!