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[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by Quietcat:<br /> <br />Where does your hatred for CEOs come from?

You already know the answer to that one QC. It comes from the so abley fostered class envy spewed out by the American Left on a daily basis.

 

[OLDSPUD]

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man, I always get ripped on, I guess I need to become a DEMOCRAT and say nice things that sound sooooo good, because I envy the rich.<br /><br />I'm just funnin with ya, heck its almost Thanksgiving, we should be talking about PETA and those poor turkeys.<br /><br />Spud

 

[QC]

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Of course you're right Boomer. Definitely rhetorical in nature. I am always hoping people with this type of thinking will actually spend time thinking it all the way through. All of us wish the world could be a kinder gentler place with lots of flowers and pretty smells. What the left (usually the extreme left, but not always) refuses to understand is that there are consequences to every action. Wishing and dreaming are nice, but reality is just that . . .

 

[QC]

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Funny, I used flowers and pretty smells in my last post. I had not even read txs's ridiculous comments.<br /><br />LOL, LOL. Well actually not LOL, just a little smirk and a shake of the head. Kinda like watching children playing in the park and thinking how cute it is to be that naive . . .

 

[txswinner]

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Yes Reality is just that.<br /><br />WMD we just can not find them (we have satellites that public can view their own home but the KNOWN WMD's were sneaked away), Oil shortage over but no new refineries (Congressional hearings by Republicans did not effect price gouging, oh yes it did prices dropped immediately), I have CEO envy, not; I own my company with 136 employees, doing ok, I oppose abortion but am pro-choice (not my choice), I support capital punishment, I hunt fish, Do not belong to NRA cause they are too radical, do belong to DU and GCCG, Served in military in '69-71, Drink, smoke a cigar on occasion, smoked my share of funny cigs, and committed more than my share of acts I would rather forget.<br /><br />So am I the person you refer to as needing to think things through??

 

[QC]

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> So am I the person you refer to as needing to think things through??

Yes.<br /><br />Great that you had all of those experiences, we share some of those and some of the beliefs you noted . . . Not sure how you go so wrong with economics and politics though <br /><br />BTW, I said something about CEO hatred. I have no belief that you have CEO envy . . .

 

[Link]

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txswinner <br />We get it. You Hate President GWB!<br />Next Silly Statement!

 

[OLDSPUD]

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txswin,<br />dude how can you be all that you say and come up with so many strong liberal opinions you have. I have read many of your responses and frankly I don't remember any that were very conservative. Mostly like link says, it appears that you and the rest of the liberal faction hate GWB period, and it seems nothing else matters, it's like you can't see the forest for the trees.<br /><br />I beg to differ with you on the oil and gas issues. The first thing they teach you in any econ class is that all economic decisions are rational. If you get gov't involved, they just screw things up especially when it comes to any business competing in the free market system or evil capitalism system we have.<br /><br />I know you see that I'm from Utah and can't know squat about anything, but man the libs are flaming out, stop listening to Chris Matthews and the like, they have an agenda, and it is very negative. How can a liberal be happy? They are so negative about everything.<br /><br />Spud

 

[jtexas]

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txs, don't let 'em get to ya...this is the place to bring your wild ideas, I say keep 'em coming.<br /><br />If your concern is about executives "stealing what is rightfully the stockholders dividends," well, that is already illegal, so what we have here is an enforcement problem, which is outside congress's scope.

 

[txswinner]

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jtexas, Thanks, but it always amazes me with the response, look what Clinton did, if Gore was elected we would be communist etc.<br /><br />So we do not forget:<br /><br />Nixon only Pres. to resign in disgrace -- Watergate and lies,<br /><br />Eisenhower first sent advisers into Vietnam and wasn't he Pres. when we pulled out of Korea?<br /><br />Ford pardoned Nixon and gang.<br /><br />Reagan deals with Iran on hostages before President and then the whole Iran Contra thing and now the felon hero of the right Ollie North.<br /><br />Yeah but what about Ted Kennedy and JFK and he killed Marilyn da duh da.

 

[POINTER94]

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Oh brother,<br /><br />Who voted against the civil rights act? Who had the stones to face civil war to end slavery? Who sent troops into Vietnam? Clinton was a president who was too self absorbed and ego-centric to resign for the good of the country. Who was the president who went to moscow during war time to trash his country. Sadition. Who pardoned economic enemys who supported terrorists for profit? Marc Rich? Who was the last president to be disbarred?<br /><br />Ford pardoned Nixon for the good of the country and made him a virtual pariah for the rest of his life. But the good of the country is never considered when there is political capital to be gained. And if the left could show Nixon in prison every day think how wonderful it would be for the rest of the world to embarrass our county and use it against us. But there is power to be gained by marginalizing our country. Why is it that when our country fails liberals succeed? Nixon was impeached because his own party did what was best for the country and stood against their own. Can that be said of Durbin (our troops are nazis) or Pelosi(our president is a liar), or Kennedy (I kill little girls with my oldsmobile)? Nope. <br /><br />Eisenhower negotiated a truce and accomplished the intended goal, stop the spread of communism. Now communism can be found on almost every college campus in the states. And like a disease it is taught to the youth and accepted by the liberal right as some kind of goal to be attained. Sad how we tolerate what so many gave their lives to stop. Fortunately the left was available to spit on our troops as they returned from Vietnam. Deep thinkers.

 

[txswinner]

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Careful Pointer, I was one of those troops and that war was no better or worse than this travesty in Iraq.

 

[JB]

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They are/were very different wars.<br /><br />We went to Viet Nam because we had promised in the SEATO treaty to aid them if invaded by a foreign power. The Viet Cong were nothing but North Viet Nam agents, armed and supported by Ho. President Eisenhower knew of Ho's strategy. I was on the mission that got that information in 1955. That is why he sent advisors.<br /><br />We were the foreign power that invaded Iraq to remove Saddam for reasons too well known to repeat here and allow the Iraqis self determination. The terrorists there want to prevent Iraq from becoming a self governing state. They want to establish a Sunni dominated radical Theocracy like the one we just unseated in Afghanistan. We created the problems Iraq now faces and we owe it to them to get them fixed. If we "lose" that war, we will lose it in Washington, not Iraq.<br /><br />The travesties about Nam were that the politicians wouldn't allow the military to win, for fear of Chinese intervention, and the tragic consequences of ultra left wing political activity. We didn't lose that war there, we lost it here.<br /><br />The way you guys were treated when you came home is one of the most shameful chapters in our history, txswinner. We disagree on a lot of things, but you have my thanks for going.

 

[jimonica]

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"fortunately the left was available to spit on our troops as they returned from Vietnam".<br /><br />The only documented case of a Vietnam veteran being spat on was a Vietnam veteran anti-war protester being spat on by uniformed members of the VFW. <br /><br />A large number of ant-war protesters were actually veterans and they would wear their uniforms while protesting.<br /><br />The Nixon administration, in their attempt to paint the anti-war movement as unpatriotic turned this episode around to blame the anti-war protesters as spitting on Veterans as the came home. As you can see this propiganda campaign worked wonderfully for Nixon.<br /><br />Same with flag burning. There were actually very few flags burned during Vietnam but because of television and the news media, you would think an anti-war protest didn't take place without a flag being burned.<br /><br />BTW. To bring this full circle, when John Kerry was getting national media attention with his ant-war protest, Nixon hired a young decorated Navy veteran to be the pro-war anti-Kerry guy. The name of this young Navy vet? John O'Neal. Yes, the same John O'Neal from the Swift Boat Liars fame.

 

[blade_x]

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Boy have I heard all this about salary caps and such before. Why not just cut to the chase and do what you really want to do which is to nationalise most American corporations. <br /><br />That being said the company I work for is 122 years old, extremely conservative, very profitable, weve never had a year in the red in the 25 years Ive been there and were employee owned. The system can work and work well. <br /><br />I get an average of $5,000-6,000 in free company stock every year. I think our system does work most of the time. Is it perfect? Of course not. There will always be the occasional Enron no matter how close we watch them. But I sure dont think socialism is the answer.

 

[QC]

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JB,<br /><br />Another fine, clear and well written post. You da man . . .

 

[rogerwa]

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And I thought we were tslking about CEOs, but I guess everything comes back to GWB being the lying liar that he is..<br /><br />What exactly did John O'neal lie about?? Because he was picked by Nixon as a prowar anti-Kerry guy, does that mean he is a liar?? How exactly did the Swift boat vets lie? did they forge documents? Other than allegation, this is just another tired old line. right up there with Bush stole the election.

 

[jtexas]

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> Oh brother,<br /><br />Who voted against the civil rights act? Who had the stones to face civil war to end slavery? Who sent troops into Vietnam? Clinton was a president who was too self absorbed and ego-centric to resign for the good of the country. Who was the president who went to moscow during war time to trash his country. Sadition. Who pardoned economic enemys who supported terrorists for profit? Marc Rich? Who was the last president to be disbarred?<br /><br />Ford pardoned Nixon for the good of the country and made him a virtual pariah for the rest of his life. But the good of the country is never considered when there is political capital to be gained. And if the left could show Nixon in prison every day think how wonderful it would be for the rest of the world to embarrass our county and use it against us. But there is power to be gained by marginalizing our country. Why is it that when our country fails liberals succeed? Nixon was impeached because his own party did what was best for the country and stood against their own. Can that be said of Durbin (our troops are nazis) or Pelosi(our president is a liar), or Kennedy (I kill little girls with my oldsmobile)? Nope. <br /><br />Eisenhower negotiated a truce and accomplished the intended goal, stop the spread of communism. Now communism can be found on almost every college campus in the states. And like a disease it is taught to the youth and accepted by the liberal right as some kind of goal to be attained. Sad how we tolerate what so many gave their lives to stop. Fortunately the left was available to spit on our troops as they returned from Vietnam. Deep thinkers.

This is just too funny. Now you're just makin stuff up!<br /><br />"President who went to moscow during war time to trash his country" A Rhodes scholar from Arkansas went to the Soviet Union, is that what you're referring to?<br /><br />Ford pardoned Nixon for the good of Nixon and the republican party.<br /><br />Nixon was never impeached.<br /><br />"His own party did what was best for the country?" Burglary? Campaign fraud? Best for the country? What country are you referring to?<br /><br />"...the good of the country is never considered when there is political capital to be gained." You got that right! I would add, "or spent."<br /><br />"...And like a disease it is taught to the youth and accepted by the liberal right as some kind of goal to be attained..." <br /><br />What's the "liberal right?" <br />And who accepts communism as a goal to be attained? Did you make that up yourself?<br /><br />Don't believe everything you hear on talk radio.

 

[12Footer]

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I am personally happy with the direction of the economy and my portfolio,(be it ever so humble).<br />As a MOF, and not that it cannot be improved-upon, i have never been happier with it.