Eat your catch or release?

[Searayb]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

Eat the Crappie, release the lg. mouth.

 

[FlaCowboy]

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So we have established that kfa ( I am not picking on anyone....just a discussion ) does not eat fish because of the mercury....what do you do about "breathing"....?
In 1999, EPA estimated that approximately 75 tons of mercury were found in the coal delivered to power plants each year and about two thirds of this mercury was emitted to the air, resulting in about 50 tons being emitted annually.

I like the taste of fish and I enjoy catching them. Always have....always will....oh... and I enjoy breathing also

 

[sasto]

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Why not pick on something your own size, so to speak?

Now if you want to get out there to freedive, or go spearfishing and thereby allowing yourself to momentarily become part of the food chain, I can get a little bit more behind that............

Some do, kfa. Ever heard of a Marlin weighing over 200 lbs and up to 1000 lbs? A 200 lb swardfish will tear you up. No telling what a giant Tuna will do to you. We had a 770 lb Marlin jump in the boat. Lucky for me the Penn 80 with a stout rod in a rod holder slowed her down a bit. I only needed 17 stitches. Sportfishing of any kind can be a dangerous thing. I can't tell you how many a good fisherman we have lost over the years. Bass fishermen and blue water fishermen.

I love to spearfish. What I don't like about it is once speared, she goes on the dinner table. I also dive under boats and do services. We have our share of Bull Sharks around here. Call it stupid, not macho.

On a side note.... I killed a bunch of ants today in the garden. Now I'm really feeling macho!

I appreciate your concern and passion, kfa, although I may not agree with all of it.

 

[WIMUSKY]

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I mean how hard is it for one, or more, homo sapiens with giant brains, tens of thousands of dollars in lethal equipment and years of experience to go around killing a bunch of dumb fish, deer or bears,etc.... Talk about bullying. Never mind what it says about the psychology of a person that knowingly and willing goes around killing beings smaller, dumber and weaker than themselves for "sport". Gee, insecure much? (Yes, yes you are.) Why not pick on something your own size, so to speak?

Wow. I guess you don't hunt and are pretty much disgusted with people that do. Can you imagine if hunting was not allowed? You would starve because your veggie garden(I have a couple) would be a buffet for the over population of woodland creatures. I suppose the farmers should cut loose their cattle, chickens etc so they all can roam free.........:facepalm:

ps. I use a 30-06 semi auto, not a 270. That must really get your goat, I mean turnip....

 

[Johny25]

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Well kfa I do agree with the statement of fat man sitting in a tree with a high power rifle and night vision scope shooting a dear walking by as being sport and not hunting. But as to the rest of your rant I will totally disagree. If you want to speak about humans living in harmony with mother nature and all that lovely stuff then you may want to study the culture of the Native Americans of this country. Probably the most efficient, respectful culture when it comes to living with mother nature in harmony. And they ate every kind of meat/fish mother nature provided.

Now obviously slaughtering animals/fish for fun is not what I am promoting here and I don't believe anyone else is either. But just because my local food mart has squash and beans that I can buy at any time does not mean that I cant enjoy a fresh fish or a nice venison steak.

 

[Summer Fun]

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[roscoe]

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kfa, the more you post, the more irrational and ignorant you appear.

The terms you use to hype stereotypes are like giant beacons flashing out the message:


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IMO, that's why no one is wasting their time trying to dispute your posts.

 

[kfa4303]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

Come on fellas is that all you've got The ad-hominem, personal attacks are the oldest, lamest trick in the rhetorical book. Not to mention a sure sign of desperation. Give me something good! It's all of you against little old me. But, those are some pretty weak arguments (from a rhetorical standpoint). I can do this all day. Certainly, you've studied your Plato, Schopenhauer and Socrates better than this? But alas, more tenuous examples taken to their absurd extremes in a failed attempt to make a point. A classic rhetorical ploy using fallacious arguments, but I'll be happy to pick them apart for you all. It's so fun and so very, very easy.

For starters, you're right I don't keep the fish anymore (I've killed plenty. Lots of bloody fish guts on my hands, no doubt about that), but it's not only the mercury, it's also the expense, the fact that I'm not into killing any critters anymore unless I absolutely have to. Not to mention the fact, that I just plain like seeing fishies in the water where they belong. The same way I like seeing birds in the sky. It's beautiful and feels good.
Another valid point is also raised in that the air we breath and the water we drink ain't the greatest. All the more reason we shouldn't ingest even more pollutants, so I thank you for making my point for me I mean I would hope that you don't tell yourself, "Oh well, I've gained 5 lbs, so I might as well gain 50 lbs." anymore than you'd say "I've ingested "x" amount of Hg, therefore I may as well ingest "x + 1", or "well I'm going 5 mph over the speed limit, so I may as well go 50 mph over", or "I'm $10k in debt, so I might as well be $100k in debt." Again, more irrational rationalizations of inexplicable, absurd behavior. Silly and amusing and so easy to disprove! You're all starting to grasp at very short and rather tenuous straws, which mean I've got you all on the ropes

As for the "flying killer marlin" well they're only flying and trying to kill you because you're trying to catch/kill him. What else would you expect? Again, 4-6 man crew + big boat + gaffs galore + radar + sonar + etc...., not really much of a fight at the end of the day. The occasional ill tempered fish with a case of schadenfreude not withstanding. Plus, I think humans have killed a lot more marlin than marlins have killed people. Good on ya for taking your chances with the Bull sharks though! I can get behind that a lot sooner than 5+ mile wide netting and long lining so some guy in Idaho can have a piece of Grouper. I'm also sorry for your loses. I've lost lots of friends to drugs and alcohol, so I guess we should all keep doing that too, right? Oh wait, if you don't do drugs you can't OD, in the same way that you can't get into a bar brawl if you don't go to bars, or be killed by an airborne, ill-tempered bill fish if you don't go billfishing. Problem solved!
Boating is dangerous enough already, do you really no need to complicate it with all the offshore fishing rigamarole? Not to mention the bizarre logic of spending $1,000+ on a fishing trip to catch a couple hundred bucks worth of fish, or getting skunked all together. Oh well, a fool and his money are soon parted.
Per the livestock argument, I'm not sure why a farmer would let his cows and chickens go? They're non-native, domesticated animals. To release them into the wild to fend for themselves would be height of cruelty and absurdity. Two traits most farmers are not generally known for. Rather, the best cow/chicken is the one that's never born/bred. Kind of like the most efficient outboard is the one that is never built, because cool guys like us keep the old vintage iron running strong.
Again, "Waste not, want not.", "Eat your veggies.", "Do unto others, etc..." This is all good advice I know your grandmothers gave you. Why not take it? Besides, I love me some ice cream, fried eggs, etc...but you don't have to kill critters to get what you need either, so everybody wins. I am under no illusions that anyone here, or elsewhere would change their behavior as a result of these posts, that would be naive. Merely offering some (vegetarian) food for thought.

 

[sasto]

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As for the "flying killer marlin" well they're only flying and trying to kill you because you're trying to catch/kill him. What else would you expect? Again, 4-6 man crew + big boat + gaffs galore + radar + sonar + etc...., not really much of a fight at the end of the day. The occasional ill tempered fish with a case of schadenfreude not withstanding. Plus, I think humans have killed a lot more marlin than marlins have killed people..

You are not going to push your agenda on me. This is my life to live.....not yours by any standards. I will make no attempt to change your lifestyle...nor will you change mine.

Half of these terms I have no clue what they mean. :facepalm:

Not much of a fight? Obviously no clue on your part. I think I better go kill a fish and put him in my crab trap before the Fish Gods and Mods get mad at me for even responding to this post.

 

[erwinner]

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I usually release my catches because catching fish is just a by-product of my true desire, getting out on the water and enjoying the peace and quiet.
I eat whatever I think tastes good which makes me a happy omnivore. I'll eat fish, but most of the eating fish around here area little perch that aren't worth the effort, or catfish, which always taste like dirt to me.
I know people that live as healthily as they can and still have major health problems and people who just won't die, no matter what they try. I almost bought the farm four weeks ago today because of a tiny tumor on my heart that had nothing to do with how I live, so I'm just going to live how I want.

 

[Johny25]

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This reminds me of the Hollywood morons complaining about the environment and everyone minimizing their carbon imprint when they spend $22,000 a year just to water there lawn......:facepalm:

So kfa you have no issues with stealing a chickens baby embryo's and eating them yet you point the finger at a fisherman and call him a murderer......:facepalm:

Come on man, you are sounding more ridiculous each post you make.

 

[idonthaveaname]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

Squeeze me!

Let's not make this an agenda, boys. It is a friendly chat about catch and release or eat your fish based on all the news about mercury. Then again, maybe some of you have ingested more mercury than others.

If the flames continue, the mods will close this.

 

[kfa4303]

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This reminds me of the Hollywood morons complaining about the environment and everyone minimizing their carbon imprint when they spend $22,000 a year just to water there lawn......:facepalm:

Amen! How/why there are golf courses, waterparks, etc... in the middle of the desert is as bizarre as it is unsustainable. Waste not, want not. Check out Scottsdale, AZ for some poor resource allocation. Golf courses everywhere, but by the time the water hits the greens it evaporates! I've also never understood why people move to the desert only to try, in vein, to make their new house "out West" just like the one they left "back East". We aren't super bright down her in the FLA, but even we don't try to build igloos in Miami. It's especially odd when you're driving down the road in the middle of New Mexico, or somewhere, and see a Cape Cod-style vacation house staring back at you :/ Why can't the desert be the desert and the woods be the woods?

So kfa you have no issues with stealing a chickens baby embryo's and eating them yet you point the finger at a fisherman and call him a murderer......:facepalm:

Well technically, they're not "embryos". They're unfertilized ovum (i.e. "eggs"). As a result, they never were alive, nor could they have been be had they been left alone. They would instead simply rot. You'd need a rooster to do his thing with the hen to make an "embryo", in which case I wouldn't eat it, but unborn chicken embryos as you describe are quite popular in Asia. Not my cup of tea, but I hear it tastes like chicken.

Come on man, you are sounding more ridiculous each post you make.

Perhaps, but that's a matter of opinion. Please point out any errors of reason or logic I have made. I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. I didn't even start the thread. Merely trying to pose some interesting philosophical questions and arguments, which I think you'll have to admit are hard to find fault with, based purely on reason and logic. I'm no saint and I could have a brain aneurism tomorrow. Yet, the more I study medicine and the martial arts (life and death essentially), the more I appreciate my life and life in general. Yet another reason why my meaty days are behind me, if can help it. I couldn't see the logic in trying to save mammals by day at a hospital only to turn around and eat other mammals, et. al. by night. Call me crazy. Besides, I've found it to be much more rewarding to create/nurture a life than it is to take it. That's really the only reason I went veggie. I just makes me feel better, even if I don't live a day longer. Quite selfish really.

 

[royal0014]

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Can't believe the Mods have not locked this up tight. Asleep at the wheel?


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[foodfisher]

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KFA, You're trying my patience also! The diabetes outbreak we are suffering is derived from starch/sugar cosumption. ALL plant derived. Show me a wildcat with diabeties. More to come unless you are exposed as a flamer.

 

[Bigprairie1]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

........apparently.:facepalm:

Anyways, when I fish its primarily fresh water (fly) fishing on our local lakes for trout. Up north here we probably don't have quite the issues with local fishstocks being poisoned than around the great lakes or a more major industrial centre. I recall that from my days living in Ontario and the issue with fishstocks in the area.
That said, I'm 99% catch and release....I keep the odd one for a nice breakfast fish sometimes....and hmmmm, they are sweet.
I don't fish for salmon, but our local salmon are great eating.....particularly the sockeye which is world famous in its taste....simply beautiful stuff.
All Good
BP

 

[sasto]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

The spotted seatrout are hitting everything in sight. I like to catch and release them. Yesterday I was after a flounder for the Lady. After several trout I finally got that flounder. Then on to some pinfish for the crab traps. The Lady had flounder stuffed with crab meat.....I had sloppy joe's.

Dang, I wish I could eat fish!

 

[Fishing Dude too]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

This says it all

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

kfa, this is not your thread and you've taken it WAY past it's original topic. I'd like this to cease.

 

[WIMUSKY]

Re: Eat your catch or release?

This says it all

That's why He made them taste so good!

90% of the fish I throw back mainly because I fish for muskys, go figure. However, I do like to keep a meal every now and then of walleye, panfish etc. Nothing better than fresh fish on the table. My whole family loves to eat fish, so that's a bonus. The biggest thing about fishing, for me, is just being out in the boat on a nice sunny day with a warm breeze. Catching a fish is just another bonus.....