Detroit river

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Here is a picture -- head north up the livingston channel to where it opens up and hang a 180 degree left. Stay North of the red line I drew unless you are in a pretty small boat or really know where the hazards are. A pretty BIG boat can get through there (south of that line) -- the sheriffs do it all the time...but I guess it's easy when the boat isn't yours :)

What really sucks about crystal bay is that a GOOD portion of it is in US waters and you still get messed with, not really sure how they get away with it.

Holy Hell brivander - that is the most generous border line at Crystal Bay that I've seen! My poor man's chartplotter (Navionics app on Droid X) doesn't show the border anywhere near that far east in the bay. What's crazy is that if you compare Earth, Google maps, Mapquest, Yahoo maps, etc. they're inconsistent with where they show the border. I think my phone app uses Google Earth as they look identical. I wonder which is accurate? Have you been in there with a big boy chartplotter/GPS?
 

brivander

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Holy Hell brivander - that is the most generous border line at Crystal Bay that I've seen! My poor man's chartplotter (Navionics app on Droid X) doesn't show the border anywhere near that far east in the bay. What's crazy is that if you compare Earth, Google maps, Mapquest, Yahoo maps, etc. they're inconsistent with where they show the border. I think my phone app uses Google Earth as they look identical. I wonder which is accurate? Have you been in there with a big boy chartplotter/GPS?

Yes, that mark isn't even close to reality compared to a real chart plotter, however you can get over there and stay on the US side, but you need to stay way further south and west of what is shown, this is typically away from the "pack", so don't get too excited and cause an international incident :) It's also way off at the rockwall, just an FYI there is a rock painted at the rockwall right where the border crosses the wall, stay west of that and you are AOK, assuming you hang out on the north side...

Any GPS will be accurate, but you need to be there, not marking something off a satellite photo, that's the real problem, it's just an estimate based on satellite pictures, so depnding on who took the picture and what angle, who the hell knows...Navionics is no less accurate than a real chart plotter (ok so maybe a chart plotter has better reception etc. so a few feet or something-- but if you are marking all 12 available satellites it's dead on), that is seriously the best deal ever as far as I'm concerned. I think I got it for 9.99...but I think it's 15 bux now...total deal.
 

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Yes, that mark isn't even close to reality compared to a real chart plotter, however you can get over there and stay on the US side, but you need to stay way further south and west of what is shown, this is typically away from the "pack", so don't get too excited and cause an international incident :)

Hell if the US goes bankrupt in 2 weeks I may go over and drop anchor on their side, crack a beer, and request political asylum when they come over to question me. :D

The Navionics app is seriously cool for the price. Not sure if you have a tow policy through Boat US but they also have a cool app (free) you can download - records your GPS coordinates and relays them automatically if you have to call for a tow which is a pre-programmed icon on the screen. How's your boat repair coming along?
 

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Hell if the US goes bankrupt in 2 weeks I may go over and drop anchor on their side, crack a beer, and request political asylum when they come over to question me. :D

The Navionics app is seriously cool for the price. Not sure if you have a tow policy through Boat US but they also have a cool app (free) you can download - records your GPS coordinates and relays them automatically if you have to call for a tow which is a pre-programmed icon on the screen. How's your boat repair coming along?

Is was going good, until I broke it again...gimbal bearing is being replaced now -- they had the drive off today. I'm seriously surprised the thing hasn't spontaneously combusted yet...

I do have Boat US, I'll check that app out too, I didn't know about it.
 

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For anyone that has a Boat US tow policy and either an Android or iPhone here is a link to information on a free app that provides your GPS position if you need to call for a tow. Even if you're out of cell range and have to call on the VHF you can use the app to get your GPS fix which is displayed on the top of the screen at all times.

http://www.boatus.com/towing/app.asp

I also threw this on my Droid to keep track of weather conditions.

http://www.radarnow.net/
 

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Was at the new Honey hole yesterday night. Boy did it feel great to go swimming with the family on 100 degree weather. No boats, not cops, and no problems. After we got back I was talking to a friend that works at the Coast Guard Station in A'burg. I guess another couple of arrest yesterday from boat in the bay and at the cross dyke. I guess they where arrested for smuggling. But hey that can be applied to any one of the people that visit the bay these days. With all the restrictions on what you can and can not have in your boat. Plus if they are 100% checking boats going into these places then they are bound to find something to justify their existence on the water. Have to pay for the gas some how. Got love going to the bothersome bay...........

Time to find a new place if you are thinking of going there. Nothing but trouble. like going down town Windsor on a Friday ot Saterday night. You know you will be getting in trouble some point in the night.......
 

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where about is that not quite following the amherst/bell point.sorry for my lack of know terminology.im on vacation this week and going out to find new spots.thanks for the map for the cross dyke i will check it out.would like to check this other place also as kids don't like the weeds either.
 

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Its is at the end of Erie Ave in Amherst Point. South Of Amherstburg by 1-2 miles. About half way between Amherstburg and Holiday Beach.

Hope it helps. Can not get the map off Google to save right.
 

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The Detroit River Canadian Cleanup (DRCC) is a community-based partnership initiated in 1998 to cleanup, enhance, restore and sustain the Detroit River ecosystem. Partnerships within the DRCC aim to promote and implement the Remedial Action Plan to restore the Detroit River's beneficial uses with the ultimate goal of removing the Detroit River from the list of Great Lakes Areas of Concern. The Detroit River International Wildlife Refuge has received national acclaim for its use of public-private partnerships in building this urban refuge. In the first five years, the refuge has grown from 304 acres to 4,982 acres. The refuge is managed by staff at the refuge office in Grosse Ile, Michigan.
 

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The Detroit River Canadian Cleanup (DRCC) is a community-based partnership initiated in 1998 to cleanup, enhance, restore and sustain the Detroit River ecosystem. Partnerships within the DRCC aim to promote and implement the Remedial Action Plan to restore the Detroit River's beneficial uses with the ultimate goal of removing the Detroit River from the list of Great Lakes Areas of Concern. The Detroit River International Wildlife Refuge has received national acclaim for its use of public-private partnerships in building this urban refuge. In the first five years, the refuge has grown from 304 acres to 4,982 acres. The refuge is managed by staff at the refuge office in Grosse Ile, Michigan.

Woah, this is pretty random. Is there a point to this statement/definition?
 

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I'll be a butt-in-ski here and throw in my .02 - looks like this is an environmental organization somewhat close in comparison to the US based "Friends of the Detroit River" - just getting the word out I guess. BTW one of these days I'm going to head over to the refuge entrance on W. Jefferson in Trenton and take a hike through there with the camera - been meaning to do that for a while. Here's some info on both organizations for those interested:

http://www.detroitriver.ca/

http://www.detroitriver.org/aboutus.htm
 
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brivander

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This refuge is about 10 feet out the door of our building, I didn't know you could get in there to walk around. I thought it was all fenced in...
 

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I guess they only have public access to the refuge on a limited basis after reading their info brochure:

http://www.fws.gov/midwest/detroitriver/documents/DetroitRiverBrochure08.pdf

I had seen some pics posted on Earth that show some walkway areas they have created in there. I guess it's still a work in progress but with the money our country is rolling around in they'll have it done in no time! :eek:
 

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It would be pretty cool to get back there -- just make sure you wear your mosquito spray, I can't even imagine how bad they are back there. This is also why there are so many weeds right by the rack building -- they aren't allowed to treat them anymore. Stupid birds :)
 

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Detroit River boaters - Post a pic of your boat!

Detroit River boaters - Post a pic of your boat!

Thought I would post a pic of my boat and see if others will follow. This is right after I took delivery end of May I think - Admiral standing next to it. I'm going to try and get some "on-the-hook" shots this weekend over by the crossdike by rowing my inflatable kayak out from the boat and trying not to drop the camera in the water. :D

Added a couple of new pics on the water today.100_0505.jpg100_0508.jpg

Boat info:
2001 Maxum 2500 SCR
5.0 GM / Bravo II
 

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217450_1990226760509_1388575307_32305387_1905891_n.jpgI'll follow that. If I'm out, I'm flying a pirate kite.
 

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Beautiful boat brivander - looks like it's moving fast just sitting there. Also looks like you have it well trained to stay in place with no dock lines. :D Wind permitting I'm usually flying this if I'm on the hook. How are the repairs coming?
 

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Seriously not good, I am waiting on a $12 part, should be here tuesday, I have taken it out a bumch for some quick rides but that's it, now it's down until the fuel pump fitting shows up.

It's been one thing after another -- I knew the original stuff was going to be major, but since then it's just been wrapping up years of neglect, nothing to expensive, but enough to keep it down most of the time. Maybe if I would just stop being an anal retentive freak and just enjoy it I'd be better off.

But like you know the boat was bought knowing it would be a project, if I take care of it all this year I won't need to worry about it for years -- besides, I do have a 7mo old baby...so I'm taking my time with it.
 

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Saw your boat at the dock today and was thinking you got your latest repair complete and were all set - asked Mark where you were and heard the story about the oil pressure - ouch! I feel your pain bro..........:(
 

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Motor is coming out Monday -- YAY!!! I was planning on being done and installing my new vinyl, I have all brand new for the inside...but now I guess I'll wait until thats done so it doesn't get all beat up...I can't even talk about it....
 
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