crownline or chapparal

[tfdcapt]

I am looking at two different boats on is a 2006 crownline 230ls razor package (tower, speakers, and racks,) captains call 190 hours and 300 hp motor ( very good looking boat) the second is a 2008 chapparal ssi 210 with no tower or speakers or racks but lowere hours and about 10k lower on price. Trying to decide which one to get serious about.

 

[90stingray]

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What motor in the Chap? Well the price difference is large because you have two different boats there... crown is larger and has all the bells. Chap is shorter and no bells. Do you want the tower and all that? If you dont need it, dont buy it. Both are quality rigs and will keep good value (as boats go). You need to get serious with what YOU need and want... and of course what you want to pay. Oh, and welcome to iboats.

 

[southkogs]

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Welcome aboard -

Condition is key on used boats. Both of those brands are fine brands, so focus on condition. Plenty of threads on the forums about looking over used boats ... and it's advisable to get it in front of a mechanic, and out on the water.

 

[tfdcapt]

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The chap has a 240 merceusier alpha 1. And I would like to have the bigger boat with all the bells but trying to determine if 36k for the crown is a good price compared to possibly buying new

 

[TilliamWe]

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what Stingray said. The Chaparral is two feet shorter. Also, we have no idea what engine/drives either boats have.
For example, in 1997, when my dad bought the Chaparral 2135 that would become mine, it had $10,000 in engine and drive options, and it was only a $30,000 boat!

 

[TilliamWe]

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T... 36k for the crown is a good price compared to possibly buying new

That's not a good price. But new is A LOT more than that, I am sure.

 

[tfdcapt]

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The chapparal has the Mercrusier 5.0L Alpha 1 240 horsepower
The Crownline has the Mercrusier 350 MPI with bravo 3 outdrive

I know that a 23 foot crown new is a lot more but kinda leary of spending 37k on a 6 yr old boat.
The chapp is smaller but newer and less expensive and i do not think they make the 210ssi any more.
I have a 09 searay 185 sport now that i will be getting rid of the chapp is actually 2 foot longer and a foot wider than my boat. but will it seat 6 to 7 adults comfortablly

 

[90stingray]

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305 w/ alpha one compared to a 350 mpi w/ bravo 3.... there's one more reason for the higher price. Plug all the options into nada and see how close the seller is on the price. Check local dealers and see how boat values in your area are doing. Sounds like you really want the crownline... with all the best options... i would too.

 

[tfdcapt]

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both boats are priced a bit above NADA Chapp about 750 to 1000 over and the Crown 1500 more dont know if hours are figured in by the dealer because there is no place for hours on NADA like milage on a car. I really like both boats but again trying to decide if a 6 yr old boat is worth that much. Thankd for all the help I have only had one boat and I bought to small and now am trying to keep from making same mistake again.

 

[LippCJ7]

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OK I am Biased, and its not to high with pricing of a Crownie that has been properly taken care of, the Bravo III outdrive is a premium outdrive. I think what you are seeing here is a Boat owner that knows what he has, its up to you if you decide to pay for it. If your interested I would look for this boat to be in Mint condition, minus the bugs of a new boat. If you are not serious about the Crownie don't bother going to look at it, Crownie Owners are particular about our boats, proud of them, and normally go the extra mile to take care of them, but are not always in a rush to sell our baby off. I paid almost that much for mine when it was 10 years old but I got more boat and more motor. Fit and finish is top notch, Hull and gelcoat second to none.

I would verify the motor is a 350 MPI and not a 350 MAG.

If you go look at the Crownie have your finances in order, if its been taken care of the Owner is likely to be very firm on the price, and if its the type of boat your looking for and has been taken care of it will draw you in.

Chap is a fine boat also, no concerns there.

Pics or a link would be huge...

Here is a nice video of 2006 230ls with a Bravo III and a 350 MAG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DySUYLgEc

Here is another in TX similar price
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/14976

Another in TX similar price
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2006-Crownline-230-Ls-Razor-101822711

 

[tfdcapt]

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that bottom link is the boat that Iam looking at

 

[LippCJ7]

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ok you have the premium motor and outdrive package, 350 MAG and Bravo III, I stand by everything else I said, it is not priced out of line. It does have an aftermarket tower but it looks to be nicely done just not factory, that boat should do 55 MPH fairly nicely, the rest is up to you.

If you are into high end sporty Bowriders this is an excellent, quality built Boat that will make you proud to own.

I would like to know how many hours are on it, and any information on service history but thats just me, like I said if your serious go look at it, it should be nearly mint condition it has snap in carpet which a lot of people like as well but if you take it out on the water your screwed, you will be taking it home.

I should say that I don't see it as priced out of line because its at a dealer and you should get it for $2000-$4000 under the advertised price, surprisingly right in line with NADA which is sketchy at best when estimating boat values.

 

[TilliamWe]

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... 5.0L Alpha 1 240 horsepower
... Mercrusier 350 MPI with bravo 3 outdrive
...

And that is an example of $10,000 more engine/drive in a new boat.

You really have apples to oranges here, other than they are both fiberglass boats.

 

[LippCJ7]

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And that is an example of $10,000 more engine/drive in a new boat.

You really have apples to oranges here, other than they are both fiberglass boats.

Absolutely

 

[Toddavid]

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All I can add is a comparison data point here, as I think those asking prices are too high:

Bought my boat in October of this year. Fully loaded, no tower, 84 original hours (specs in signature). Professionally surveyed and sea trailed, brand new Wesco tandem trailer, GPS, Lenco trim tabs, VHF, vacu-flush, including $900 for delivery to me, I paid $30,500 before sales tax.

Granted I found that deal *before* owners spent the money to tuck their boats away for the winter, but you are still somewhat in a buyer's season.

Widen your search area, budget some money for delivery and survey, and you should be able to do much better than those asking prices you currently have found.

 

[jkust]

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The chapparal has the Mercrusier 5.0L Alpha 1 240 horsepower
The Crownline has the Mercrusier 350 MPI with bravo 3 outdrive

I know that a 23 foot crown new is a lot more but kinda leary of spending 37k on a 6 yr old boat.
The chapp is smaller but newer and less expensive and i do not think they make the 210ssi any more.

Also then the 5.0 if it is a Mercruiser is either 220HP if carbed or 260 if MPI. Just the upgrade from the 5.0 carb to the 5.0MPI is a huge leap...the 350Mag or MPI is astronomical. These two boats aren't playing on the same field. Chap completely retooled their entire boat line up a few years back and so that 210 SSI was made almost identically for several years previous and a year after. It is a fine boat and fit and finish is as nice as I think any similarly priced competitor but Chaps of that generation are luxurious versus the much sportier spot held by Crownline.

 

[frantically relaxing]

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As a guy who has owned many boats, my free advice is to buy your 2nd-next boat first. Either boat would be a good investment, but chances are you'll be selling the Chap to go bigger much sooner than if you buy the Crown. Shopping for boats is GREAT fun compared to selling boats...

 

[tfdcapt]

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Thanks for all the info calling on the crown next week. Most likely going to wait on the boat shows that will be coming soon to my area just to have a look see but most likely the used one is the one I will try to make a deal on.

 

[jsturvey]

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Tough decision, especially between 2 fine boats. I previously owned a 18', was shopping for a 21'r with a 305, and ended up going with a 23' with a 350. Having the extra space and power is definitely a plus, and worth the extra money. (considering I went 6K over budget to purchase it)

Looking forward to seeing what you end up with. Good Luck!