Corn ,ethanol and gasoline.

[txswinner]

Re: Corn ,ethanol and gasoline.

And you will not as Exxon owns our government. The oil industry gets many subsidizes and huge tax breaks.<br /><br />Monopolies will result in the failure of the US economy.

 

[DJ]

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And you will not as Exxon owns our government. The oil industry gets many subsidizes and huge tax breaks.<br /><br />Monopolies will result in the failure of the US economy.

Owns-NOPE!. Influence-YES. I'll take a "private" mind over a government one-ANYDAY.<br /><br />We're all jacked up about "alternative fuels" while our competition (China) still puts lead in the fuel.<br /><br />C'mon people-WAKE UP!

 

[txswinner]

Re: Corn ,ethanol and gasoline.

DJ, I think their lobbys are way past influencing. My former Senator Phil Gramm went from a liberal arts professor to multi-millionaire strictly from his efforts in the Senate. No I think own is closer to correct.

 

[DJ]

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txs,<br /><br />Name ONE Senator that DIDN'T come out of the Senate-a multi millionaire????<br /><br />Even, the poverty sworn, late-Senator, Paul Wellstone of Minnesota, left his family a multi-million dollar legacy. Could it be he-"turned"???<br /><br />It's all corrupt. As long as we have unlimited government terms (that would make a Teamster scream with envy), we have a problem.<br /><br />It's all based on an uneducated electorate, we get what we get.<br /><br />Read my byline.

 

[glasply1]

Re: Corn ,ethanol and gasoline.

Most of the alternative energy research is being funded by you and me. The current big players will continue to dominate the energy and transportation industries.

 

[JasonJ]

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BP, Exxon-Mobil and others spend more money on developing alternative energy sources than the US government. Yeah, those same guys that the Liberals call demons.<br /><br />Nothing like a profit motive to get things moving. <br />

Thats cute, you actually believe that... <br /><br />The only reason they would have to develop alternative energy would be to get the stranglehold on it and continue their profit margin. No great shock there....

 

[roscoe]

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This article explanes why NASA is getting the money to delope alternative fuels. It is also why China is going to the moon.<br /><br />A very interesting read.<br /><br /> http://www.direct.ca/trinity/helium3.htm <br /><br />google "he3 fusion" to learn more

 

[heycods]

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Originally posted by roscoe:<br /> This article explanes why NASA is getting the money to delope alternative fuels. It is also why China is going to the moon.<br /><br />A very interesting read.<br /><br /> http://www.direct.ca/trinity/helium3.htm <br /><br />google "he3 fusion" to learn more

It was a good read but I dont see it happining in the near future, things like this take time, and we have set on our butt till the time of need is now. the old "Ill worry about that when the time comes theory" is upon us now.<br /><br /> It takes rithious bucks to develope and implement a source of alternative energy, I think it will take something like a major oil co. or companys , maby in conjunction with the government to implement an alternate source of energy. Then we will be back to square one, Some major Co, will own us and we will be at thier mercy. Damned if we do and damned if we dont.

 

[heycods]

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Originally posted by WillyBWright:<br /> I just posed a few questions in the Non-boating Techinical heading about E-85. Some of the responses may be of interest to readers of this thread as they come in.

Didnt find the thread, show me?? <br /> <br /> EDIT nevermind I found it and it answereed my quizz, Dont run it in my boat. thanks willie

 

[imported_Curmudgeon]

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.. so far it seems a third world place like Brazil has almost weaned itself from gasoline in auto's..<br /><br />Not too hard to accomplish in a country with 90% of the population centered in 5% of the place ... in a 3rd world country (and the other 10% still using bows and blow guns)! That's surely a quality of life to aspire to!

 

[rodbolt]

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old, but have ya checked on the population size? like Bush said on TV, brazil is a big place.

 

[Elmer Fudge]

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4932950.stm <br /><br />To approach that level of energy independence we in the USA have to invest in the long term, perhaps we need to reach the tipping point much like Brazil experienced.<br />If ever it comes to that, the going will be very very tough, as a nation we have never really been subjected to those types of austerity measures

 

[imported_Curmudgeon]

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Brazil certainly does have a bunch of folks ... and most of 'em live on top of one another. And those who could afford it don't have much need for personal transportation. Completely different demographics in comparison with the US, which yields apples and oranges ...

 

[rodbolt]

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old, ya ever been to south amereica?<br /> so far I have not made brazil. hopefully this christmas will change that. there are a lot of cars down south.ill google up the cia factbook on it and see what it says again.<br /> however the guy in the apt next to ours in rio chico VE is from brazil, lovely family.<br /> they own 2 cars and a truck.<br /> from what I can understand brazils program started 30 years ago, I also understand but may be wrong that brazil is not going to allow gasoline powered vehicles to be imported anymore.<br /> its a fairly aggressive program but its also working.<br /> so far we in the US seem to have had lip service from the past 35 years of administrations but no real programs to insure low cost energy and alternate reasonable cost public transit systems.<br /> not all alternatives will work in all areas of the US due to environment,distance and geographics.