Cops pose as beggars

Scaaty

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> I suspect that there is a lot more to this story than we have read.
No there isn't JB. ON the TALK RADIO for a HOUR AND A HALF SUNDAY! They never even got to the other thing (Legalize drugs) they were going to discuss. Only 4 callers said it was fine, and 2 were COPS. I don't know what Seattle paper it was, but its REAL. This aint Texas. This state is turning conmmunist.......street people at EVERY OFF RAMP... grocery stores..GD BUMS..<br />Robby (Scaaty new boat name)
 

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well here we have police who worry about crime on the roads.<br /><br />and OTHER police who worry about crime that some fell are more inportant.<br /><br />when you get run down and left on the side of the for dead you tend to feel that the police worrying about crime on the roads are not wasteing time finding finding people any way they can.<br /><br />And yes I have really been hit and run and left there in the cold to fend for myself, and was very happy to see the police looking any way they could because the car that hit me would have never made it through a road block it would have been impounded on the spot<br /><br />tommays
 

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Originally posted by tommays:<br />when you get run down and left on the side of the for dead you tend to feel that the police worrying about crime on the roads are not wasteing time finding finding people any way they can.
Nobody here said police worrying about crimes on the road is a waste of time. A waste of time is cops dressing up like vagrants when they could be out helping people and stopping real crimes on the road like you described.
 

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This is simply a method used to bypass the necessity of "probably cause" that was initiated to help eliminate the actions of overzealous cops who violated civil rights by stopping citizens for no reason. Should continue to be illegal but with todays attitude police control is running amuck.
 

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Originally posted by JasonJ:<br /> <br />We have pedestrian crosswalk stings all the time, where plaincloths officers cross the street and people who run the crosswalk get ticketed.
Yeah, right. Hate to bust a bubble, but NORMAL people look for a car first. I saw that BS on the tube, GD jerk pig walks into the path of a car just before the crosswalk. What the h do you expect? Since when are CAR DRIVERS WITH LIMITED VISION AT 30MPH SUPPOSED TO LOOK OUT FOR AN IDIOT THAT CAN SEE FOR BLOCKS IF CAR IS COMING. Its about outlaw social engineering, and its sucks, bigtime.
 

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Originally posted by Realgun:<br /> I notice he posted and never replied. Hes a troll and I hope the cops got him. :D
What a dope. Its been one day! Mind if I go to town for some damn grocery's? Plus I, unlike you obviously, have a life. Which by the way, I don't like being dictated to me by a pig cop dressed like a bum. You have problem with me, dress like a cop, and be a man about it. Besides, I don't give a rats a$$...I ride Harley's, watching fools in cars with GD cell phones, reading, sandwiches, makeup, head up the wazoo.........I give up.
 

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Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> This is simply a method used to bypass the necessity of "probably cause" that was initiated to help eliminate the actions of overzealous cops who violated civil rights by stopping citizens for no reason. Should continue to be illegal but with todays attitude police control is running amuck.
I'm gonna hate myself for this. I said I was just gonna watch this thing and not get involved. While I agree the tactic is working very well and its probably getting a large amount of real criminals off the streets, TXS is correct IMHO.
 

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Next they'll want to dress up female officers as ladies of the night and solicit men,.... then they'll go undercover as drug dealers to catch buyers.... OH MY GOSH WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS STOP!!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

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You want criminals off the street, you will ...its coming.......slowly.....trouble is the next law will get YOU if this one don't.<br /><br /> "Pleeze show me zee papers" <br /> Lets end this one, for tomorrow, something new, as in the communist state called Washington, you cannot smoke within 25 feet of a door, OR WINDOW, in ANY building but your home. Not even in your car sitting on a open air Ferry. And already they admit, they have no way to enforce it...probably all the cops at off ramps. Lets end this
 

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Originally posted by azfyrfyter63:<br /> Next they'll want to dress up female officers as ladies of the night and solicit men,....
That the trouble with your profession. What should we bust today?<br />Example: Prostitution. Illegal in AZ, legal in NV. Got a good answer for that?
 

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Let me say it a different way, ZmOz.<br /><br />The seatbelt checkpoint provides probable cause for officers to interview and discover offenders of much more serious crimes that weren't, or wouldn't have been, noticed by the patrolman on the highway.<br /><br />It is well known that persons who treat one law with disdain are likely to treat many laws with disdain. That is why so many DUI/DWI arrests start out as simple minor traffic stops.
 

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Originally posted by SCAATY:<br />
Originally posted by azfyrfyter63:<br /> Next they'll want to dress up female officers as ladies of the night and solicit men,....
That the trouble with your profession. What should we bust today?<br />Example: Prostitution. Illegal in AZ, legal in NV. Got a good answer for that?
A good answer for what? Your only question is "What should we bust today?" I'm guessing you meant to ask "who" and not "what", but I'm not sure I would answer it... because "in my profession" we don't bust people, I don't know who you thought I was, but it sounds like you are wrong.<br /><br />And street prostitution is NOT LEGAL in NV.
 

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I am missing something here. What is the big problem? Is it that not bing in a marked patrol vehicle you don't know your caught? <br />I read in the beginning page somewhere the word entrapment. This is not entrapment, this is just being sneaky. How else can they see who is doing what wrong? Should they post billboards announcing "cops 300 feet ahead, cease all illegal activities?". Entrapment is NOT hiding and catching someone breaking the law when they think no cops are around. Entrapment is when a government official like a cop entices a person to do something they would not be otherwise inclined to do, then charging them. Example would be I go to a person who is not, has no history of, and has never thought about selling drugs. I offer this person big bucks to go find some dope and sell it to me. He says no, but I keep bugging until finally he does. That is entrapment. Or if I would say to someone, hey my RADAR isn't working well for people traveling over 70mph. Coem drive past me and I will clock you to see if it is working, then I cite them for speeding. That is entrapment, just like it sounds en-TRAP-ment. Not hiding and watching a public place. I noticed that there was a little emphasis on AND they had a drug dog. <br /><br />As for OTHER crimes that need attention. Lets get the public to give us a list, on these days these crimes are more important. On these other days this and that are more important. UNLESS of course something happens to the people complaining, then their neighbors dog pooping in their rose garden is the most important thing and must be handled immediately. Until the neighbors kid speeds past the house, then that becomes number one. For this reason they divide duties. They have narcotics officers, traffic enforcement, violent crimes units, vice units, even liquer control and animal control. Some luckier departments even have property units that handle the dog pooping in the neighbors yard. So handle the true crimes, maybe they are.<br /><br />Where is this all coming from and where is it going? Communist state because they have started using a different way of patroling and watching for criminal activity? If a family member would be at the off ramp and some idiot driver ran into them injuring them then sped off, but this under cover bum happen to see itand catch the guy, would your opinion be the same? I just don't get why this stirs people up so much. I am thinking more power to them, that thought as a private citizen.
 

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Originally posted by SCAATY:<br />
Originally posted by Realgun:<br /> I notice he posted and never replied. Hes a troll and I hope the cops got him. :D
What a dope. Its been one day! Mind if I go to town for some damn grocery's? Plus I, unlike you obviously, have a life. Which by the way, I don't like being dictated to me by a pig cop dressed like a bum. You have problem with me, dress like a cop, and be a man about it. Besides, I don't give a rats a$$...I ride Harley's, watching fools in cars with GD cell phones, reading, sandwiches, makeup, head up the wazoo.........I give up.
Man, so much anamosity (sp?) here. But then I saw the part about the Harley and it made it all clear. I would also be so uptight if I was forced to ride a Harley :D :D :D :D :D
 

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"rude African", wait till the lack of apartheid takes it's full effect....Post in 20 years take two lumps & call me in the mourning..... ;) ...JK
 

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Its funny Deputydawg, I could swear I said the same things you just said earlier in this thread, yet for some wierd reason the concept just isn't grasped. I know the real underlying reason, hatred towards law enforcement. There is nothing that can be said to defend law enforcement for some. Its just the same old same old: Cops suck until they are needed....<br /><br />And yes, JB is correct. I had even stated the same thing earlier, yet it is not being understood, or maybe not wanting to be understood.
 

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Said by deputydawg:<br /><br />If a family member would be at the off ramp and some idiot driver ran into them injuring them then sped off, but this under cover bum happen to see itand catch the guy, would your opinion be the same? I just don't get why this stirs people up so much. I am thinking more power to them, that thought as a private citizen.<br /><br />Dawg, What are your thoughts if the family member stopped because of the bum and the accident occurred because they were in the roadway and the other driver was killed as well. <br /><br />These things are avoided by the requirement of "Probable cause" and a good lawyer might well beat the charges based on this element. We want law enforcement thru observation not entrapment, illegal search and seizure, or for that at the descretion of some law enforcement person.<br /><br />Much distaste for cops have been earned by bad cops ie New Orleans, LA, and yes even in Texas, Ft. Worth, and Dallas of late.
 

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And the winner is... (Hey ..I started it, I give out the prize).........<br /> For most knowledgeable...txswinner<br />quote:<br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Originally posted by txswinner:<br />"This is simply a method used to bypass the necessity of "probably cause" that was initiated to help eliminate the actions of overzealous cops who violated civil rights by stopping citizens for no reason. Should continue to be illegal but with todays attitude police control is running amuck." <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />And second prize to Kenneth Brown....<br /><br />"I'm gonna hate myself for this. I said I was just gonna watch this thing and not get involved. While I agree the tactic is working very well and its probably getting a large amount of real criminals off the streets, TXS is correct IMHO."<br /><br />Guys, if I had to do Vietnam again, I could use you two. <br /><br />PS. I believe seat belts should be an Insurance manner. No belt, no insurance. Simple. Period. It should not, nor EVER been made a LAW, punishable by fine and possible jail time if you are not in position to pay, or refuse to.
 

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Thanks Scaaty on the prize, I am moving to Canada on the Vietnam idea. Peace and all that stuff.
 
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