Climate change and fishing

[tphoyt]

Here in the North East it seems that a warm water fish is caught around here.
This year it was small Tiger Shark and a Red Fish. I miss catching the Reds bring it on. last summer the was a Tarpon caught and this is all happening from the shore.
I hear of other fish but they are caught out in The Canyons and it doesn’t really surprise me as that’s a very special place.
Any body else seeing a change?

 

[dingbat]

Here in the North East it seems that a warm water fish is caught around here.
This year it was small Tiger Shark and a Red Fish. I miss catching the Reds bring it on. last summer the was a Tarpon caught and this is all happening from the shore.
I hear of other fish but they are caught out in The Canyons and it doesn’t really surprise me as that’s a very special place.
Any body else seeing a change?

What’s a “red fish”?…lol
We have “slots”, yearlings, Drum and Black Drum……lol

Not sure how much I’d chalk it up to warm water. Not seeing anything I’ve not seen previously. Just a lot more publicity on social media.

Things have always been are very cyclic. Seen populations shift up, down, in and out for the past 50 years. Most directly related to the availability of food and or direct competition between species.

Inshore fish typically don’t move on a 1-2 degree water change. Salinity drives them harder.

If it was just water temps, wouldn’t the fish show up earlier and stay longer?

Can still set a clock on the timing of the arrival of most species. Personally, think migration is triggered by photo period more so than temps. Bait migration is stronger than temps

 

[cyclops222]

I my fishing bay. I have caught and released so many years / decades.

that all the fish are smarter and more difficult to catch. But the fish look and act healthy. Still, they are not healthy enough to eat. I refuse to catch and give them to my senior friends anymore. I tell them I can only catch very small ones.

 

[tphoyt]

Maybe I should have mentioned salt water specifically. The Red Fish also know as Red Drum are normally a more southern fish as are the others mentioned. I used to catch these fish in Fl all the time. I have been on Cape Cod for over 30 years now and never heard of these fish showing up until the past couple of years.
It could very well be social media though. News travel much easier and faster now.

 

[dingbat]

Maybe I should have mentioned salt water specifically. The Red Fish also know as Red Drum are normally a more southern fish as are the others mentioned. I used to catch these fish in Fl all the time.

Just giving you grief….lol

Locally NC, VA and MD, they are known as Drum, Red Drum and Channel Bass.

North Carolina is the base for the large (northern) spawning population that spends summers in and around the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay. This particular population is responsible for 10 of the top 16 records for the fish.

I have been on Cape Cod for over 30 years now and never heard of these fish showing up until the past couple of years.
It could very well be social media though. News travel much easier and faster now.

Drum were common into New Jersey for many years before moving back south again. Hearing of a lot of them showing up in Delaware again this year.

Could just be the shear numbers of fish since size restrictions where put in place that is increasing distribution of the population.

Locally, the big news are Tarpon…even though there has been a “silent” fishery for them for many years.

Been covered up in big Drum for the past 3-4 weeks as well

 

[DeepCMark58A]

The Canyons are a special place indeed, would have loved to see it when it was above water.

 

[tphoyt]

I’m back again with a new one. There was a Pelican sighting today here on Marthas Vineyard.
I can’t think of anything other than a climate change bringing these more southern spices up this way.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

We have had snowy owls come down from the most northern climates to visit Minnesota the last couple winters, must be climate change too.

 

[dingbat]

I’m back again with a new one. There was a Pelican sighting today here on Marthas Vineyard.
I can’t think of anything other than a climate change bringing these more southern spices up this way.

Pelican a rare sight for Island birders - The Martha's Vineyard Times

Updated Sept. 12 Many find Vineyard summers too busy, and instead visit in September just past peak season. The Island’s latest notable shoulder season traveler is a brown pelican, seen through this week on Lagoon Pond in Tisbury. The Vineyard’s birders and wildlife professionals have been...

www.mvtimes.com

Matt Pelikan, who is director of the Martha’s Vineyard Atlas of Life at Biodiversity Works and The Times’ wildlife columnist, has also heard many reports of the Lagoon Pond visitor. “The bird has been … found reliably by multiple observers and well photographed, so there is no doubt the ID is correct,” he said. “They are powerful fliers with an established pattern of vagrancy to the Northeast. So a good bird, and one that lots of people get to see.”


It’s hard to be certain why this individual wound up here, Bellincampi said, though she shared some possibilities. “There are going to be storms, or it could just wander outside of its range,” she said

For what it's worth, we had a manatees show up in the Chesapeake more than a couple of times.

Are manatees trying to tell us something about the Chesapeake Bay?

When a Florida manatee swims into the Chesapeake Bay, it makes waves.

www.bayjournal.com

 

[roscoe]

we've got plenty of pelicans in wisconsin.
always had them
people just didn't know they were there . Green Bay, Oshkosh, Horicon Marsh

The snowy owls come down to wisconsin and minnesota in years where the snow cover is heavy in Canada. nothing new with that either.

 

[DeepCMark58A]

we've got plenty of pelicans in wisconsin.
always had them
people just didn't know they were there . Green Bay, Oshkosh, Horicon Marsh

The snowy owls come down to wisconsin and minnesota in years where the snow cover is heavy in Canada. nothing new with that either.

The heavy snow cover in Canada? Who knew

 

[DeepCMark58A]

we've got plenty of pelicans in wisconsin.
always had them
people just didn't know they were there . Green Bay, Oshkosh, Horicon Marsh

The snowy owls come down to wisconsin and minnesota in years where the snow cover is heavy in Canada. nothing new with that either.

Pelican Rapids MN is a city that has been around over 100 years, pelicans in the midwest is not a new thing.

 

[dingbat]

we've got plenty of pelicans in wisconsin.
always had them people just didn't know they were there . Green Bay, Oshkosh, Horicon Marsh

I'm guessing the inland, northern birds which you speak are White Pelicans.

The birds in question are Brown Pelicans.
Lives on the Atlantic, Gulf, and Pacific Coasts in the Americas.

On the Atlantic Coast, it is found from the New Jersey coast to the mouth of the Amazon River. Along the Pacific Coast, it is found from British Columbia to northern Peru, including the Galapagos Islands.