Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Woodonglass

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Thanks ondarvr YD had me worried there. All that Heat and Melting stuff. Maybe HE knows what he meant but I sure didn't get it. What you described is what I always was told.
 

Yacht Dr.

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Thanks ondarvr YD had me worried there. All that Heat and Melting stuff. Maybe HE knows what he meant but I sure didn't get it. What you described is what I always was told.

Hey .. just trying to Inform the Forum ..

I guess I have been wrong all these years and I should start a different approach to Buffing. Like I havent been proved for you guys ??

I know what works .. I know what I know. Take it or leave it I dont care .. Just trying to help out.

Why are you guys slammin me ????? WTH ??

I am Done with the "How to buff my boat out" .. I have left my trails of materials and methods . now I leave it up to the chemist and the Google master.

You guys kill me .. really .. you guys just need to Think before you post .. ( and I do need to think about my post too .. but this time I though about it ).

Cheers and Good Luck to all you.

Yacht Dr.
 

QC

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

John DeLorean had it right. SS and forget it.
 

noideawhat

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I don't think any one was trying to bash ya brother. Sounds like they were looking for clarification. I'm a new boat owner so I started this so I (and whoever reads this) will have some good info on how to fix it, not make it worse hahaha
 

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YD, I hope you understand that my post had no malicious intents of any kind. I was only looking for clarifications and healthy discussion. For whatever it is worth, your input is much appreciated.
 

Yacht Dr.

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I don't think any one was trying to bash ya brother. Sounds like they were looking for clarification. I'm a new boat owner so I started this so I (and whoever reads this) will have some good info on how to fix it, not make it worse hahaha

I really dont know much else to add to my previous post #34. Heat is needed when Rubbing out gel. Not Smoking hot or you will burn the gel.

YD, I hope you understand that my post had no malicious intents of any kind. I was only looking for clarifications and healthy discussion. For whatever it is worth, your input is much appreciated.

Nope .. never thought your post had any intent other than further explanation of what I posted.

Again in my post #34 in this thread described How and What happens when using pads/compounds/polishes/techniques all in one post. I dont know how much more I can add to this.

Part of my post ..

Get a 7" rotary buffer ( Sander polisher ) Not a Grinder.

Use a Wool pad and some compound ( not some cheesy $5.00 pad ).

Go light and steady .. then heavier if needed. Its a learning curve with every job man.

Yes Heat. You need Heat when you "Rub-Out" or Buff. Not so much when your Polishing or Glazing. Your goal is to Melt the surface and Rub/Smear it around ( Anyone that has knowledge in acrylic work this is true ).

Yes it does take time to understand the nature of the gel or paint and how much pressure and how fast you should move your buffer around. Even which directions you should go.

Buffing out .. True buffing out is an Art-Form. Not just grab a buffer and such and such compound and go at it then it will look like a kazillion bucks. Oh no.. much more is involved sometimes.

Its all in there ^^ .. I dont know How to explain the Heat/melt thing but its true. Yes abrasives in the compound do its part as far as a "sanding' effect .. but the meat of it is heat. Polishing as I said is totally different. Im talking Rubbing out a boat.

As this season is about to explode with buff outs I will do an Iboats Exclusive vid of how I rub a boat out :).

At least its warming up :D.

Happy boating ..

YD.
 

Friscoboater

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

It really is not hard at all. I explain how it is done here, and hove some how too videos too.

 

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Couple of you guys seem to be caught up in semantics. You are agreeing on the basic procedure, just not what that procedure does. And that is okay, the important thing is not the science behind the buffing, but that the buffing is actually done correctly and the OP's boat looks great in the end.

Nice detailed video, Frisco ... you made me tired and my arms hurt just watching it! :laugh:
 

SDSeville

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A drill motor will work, it may be a bit slow, and the drill may not survive the entire job, but give it a try.


This may be one of those jobs where it may be cheaper to buy the buffer and then have two tools. Becauses if you kill the drill motor you will need to buy another one, then if you want to buff the boat or something else later you still need a buffer.

+1 on this. Can't you order the HF buffer online? Here is a link to a 20% coupon. Affiliate Coupon

The cheap HF buffer even comes with a foam pad and some covers.
 

Yacht Dr.

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Couple of you guys seem to be caught up in semantics. You are agreeing on the basic procedure, just not what that procedure does. And that is okay, the important thing is not the science behind the buffing, but that the buffing is actually done correctly and the OP's boat looks great in the end.

Yup :) .. spot on.

Everyone has their methods and materials.

There is a saying in boat work .. Whatever Works :)

YD.
 

Yacht Dr.

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Great vid, very useful

Not really .. its too complex .. too many pads and compounds/polishes. Also there is too many sanding profiles that can be Skipped ..

You can repeat this and get a good finish .. All this is not needed with Gelcoat :) ..

I only use High Quality ( which saves you in the long run ) pads/polishes.

There is no Drill motor that Rubs out a boat ..

800-1000 grit is all you need . ... its going to rub out like glass .. even more Glass if you use a polish.

YD.
 

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Not really .. its too complex .. too many pads and compounds/polishes. Also there is too many sanding profiles that can be Skipped ..

You can repeat this and get a good finish .. All this is not needed with Gelcoat :) ..

I only use High Quality ( which saves you in the long run ) pads/polishes.

There is no Drill motor that Rubs out a boat ..

800-1000 grit is all you need . ... its going to rub out like glass .. even more Glass if you use a polish.

YD.

Let me get this straight. What you are basically saying is that you are always right and everyone else is always wrong.
Is that correct?
 

noideawhat

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

I used a drill motor ^^^ that was the outcome........Soooo I'll post a before one too
 

Woodonglass

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Re: Can this amount of fade be "fixed"

Let me get this straight. What you are basically saying is that you are always right and everyone else is always wrong.
Is that correct?
I can't WAIT to see THIS answer!!!!!
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