Bye to Chrysler world

[ErSa]

I am now leaving this forum due to environmental reasons in Sweden.
I am forced to run 4-stroke in the future. Thanks for a lot of good advices.

 

[silverbul]

“A Cleaner Wake”

 

[Nordin]

ErSa sad to hear, did you got your Chrysler in working order?
Yes, maybe I must leave these lovely two stroke outboards too.
Maybe the government and the local politician will forbid all two strokers in our fresh water sea.

 

[ErSa]

I got my Chrysler 75 hp in, at the moment, perfect working order (30 knots).
Think I go for a Honda BF50A with short axle.

 

[Nordin]

Okey nice to hear you got it up and running properly, have the local politician forbid the two strokers?

 

[stresspoint]

put some 4 stroke stickers on it

 

[ErSa]

The local politician forbid the two strokers, next year, on a part of a lake where we take drinking water from. They want us tu run on akrylat petrol close to the drinking water intake. Environmental requirements is knocking on the door.

 

[silverbul]

"I'll give you my 2 stroke when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"

 

[topgun3690]

Yes, maybe I must leave these lovely two stroke outboards too.

If/when that happens, hope you will continue to share your knowledge of these old motors....I plan on running mine as long as I can. Ahh, the smell of pre-dawn 2-stroke smoke out on the water.....it don't get any better than that! Lol.

 

[stresspoint]

If/when that happens, hope you will continue to share your knowledge of these old motors....I plan on running mine as long as I can. Ahh, the smell of pre-dawn 2-stroke smoke out on the water.....it don't get any better than that! Lol.

and the lovely colors of that oil slick .

i don't see what the problem is , the oil come from the ground , once the smoke settles its back on the ground , the slick will wash up on the shore eventually.

politicians and tree huggers have no idea !.

 

[topgun3690]

COME AND TAKE IT

 

[Nordin]

Topgun3690 the primary issues with two stroke OB here in Sweden is if the lake you use it in is a source for drinking water.

In the area I live we have two large fresh water lakes and one of these lakes is the source for drinking water and they forbid two stroke OB in 2020.

Maybe you are allowed to use acrylate fuel with RDE tested two stroke oil.

RDE (Real driving Emission tested in EU) and one of these RDE tested oil is the brand Triboron.

BUT the acrylate fuel cost two times regular fuel and the RDE two stroke oil three times regular premium two stroke oil.

Here in Sweden regular fuel with 10% Ethanol costs about 2 dollars per liter and premium two stroke oil about 5 dollars per liter.

Really really expensive.

I have not so much experience of four stroke OB especially new ones, BUT older four stroke OB do not have any catalyzer soo the big environment issue of the two stroke OB is the unburned fuel with two stroke oil compared to the four stroke OB.

 

[topgun3690]

Topgun3690 the primary issues with two stroke OB here in Sweden is if the lake you use it in is a source for drinking water.

In the area I live we have two large fresh water lakes and one of these lakes is the source for drinking water and they forbid two stroke OB in 2020.

Maybe you are allowed to use acrylate fuel with RDE tested two stroke oil.

RDE (Real driving Emission tested in EU) and one of these RDE tested oil is the brand Triboron.

BUT the acrylate fuel cost two times regular fuel and the RDE two stroke oil three times regular premium two stroke oil.

Here in Sweden regular fuel with 10% Ethanol costs about 2 dollars per liter and premium two stroke oil about 5 dollars per liter.

Really really expensive.

I have not so much experience of four stroke OB especially new ones, BUT older four stroke OB do not have any catalyzer soo the big environment issue of the two stroke OB is the unburned fuel with two stroke oil compared to the four stroke OB.

Thanks for that info.....yeah, there is no denying that 2-strokes are dirty compared to the 4-strokes....and I can see their concern about the drinking water for sure. I guess if they don't outlaw the 2-strokes outright they will make it too expensive to use them.....causing people to make the switch to 4-strokers.

 

[stresspoint]

a bad running or modified carbed 4 stroke will burn dirtier than a badly mixed 2 stoke .
as i posted , any excess oil that is not burned with a 2 smoke will sit on top of the water and eventually end up on the shore line , the smoke will disperse into the air ,
for the most part this will not harm the water quality .
however , the same cant be said for the unburned raw fuel from a bad running 4 stroke, this will sink in the water and cause the water quality to be questionable.
i am no scientist , but , i don't think the particles per million will be enough in either case to become an issue to the quality of the water.
there are lots of other environmental concerns that should be looked at before worrying about a few 2 smokers running on a lake
IMHO , its just people with no idea having nothing better to do with their time than exercising their authority to stop people having fun.