Braided Line

LubeDude

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Re: Braided Line

Originally posted by walleyehed:<br /> LubeDude, did you say you don't like the braids on spinning gear???? That's where I've found it really shines for me.
Maybe I havnt tryed enough of them. The problem I was having was that the braided lines didnt lay down on the spool evenly and my casts were short, or sometimes hung up.
 

walleyehed

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Re: Braided Line

I suppose different reels may handle it differently too. Honestly, it's been the best addition to spinning gear since the 1-piece rod...I've had great luck with it (fireline). I have had some trouble with the rip-cord, and spiderwire, but spectra and mycrodeneema are 2 different materials.
 

FLATHEAD

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Power pro works for me, also like the rip cord. The sensitivity is what it's all about for me. But than again I am just a lowly bass fisherman. :D I like to tie what I like to call a hangmans noose and it holds up to even the bigins.
 

walleyehed

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Flathead, those "lowly Bass" have saved many a fishin' trip....I love chuckin' a spinnerbait in shallow water for'em...can't say I ever got into deep-water bassin though.
 

FLATHEAD

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Cant argue that, The deepest I ever catch bass is around 12 to 15 foot. Pretty shallow compared to what some of you guys do.
 

imported_JD__

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Re: Braided Line

I use Spederwire Stealth. It seems to retain its color better than Power Pro and is around $9.99 for 150 yds. at Wally World. I use a Palomar knot at the terminal end, never had a failure. With 20# test it will straighten the hooks on most lures I use. As someone already mentioned, lay down a thin layer of mono backing before spooling on the braid. Braid is slicker & softer, has a tendancy to slip. The mono grips the spool and allows you to put the line on tighter. The stiffer mono also helps keep the braid from digging in. I attach my backer to braid with the uni-knot. Never caught a Muskie but have caught a few 15-18 # stripers & one 44 pound catfish with this set up.<br />JD
 

crab bait

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Re: Braided Line

i pretty much exclusively use the palomar knot but i morph it alittle.. i double overhand knot instead of a single.. <br /><br />it give the 'knot bite' alittle extra pad..
 

detailer

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walleyehed, i think the 20# braided was equal 8# mono. i've emailed them to get the true comparison, i'll let ya know.
 

muskyone

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stren is all i use gf i would of shold you the knot i use didn't know you were haveing a prob have never had a knot fail but all my reels have chewed up the gears i do like the new stren if i can't get it i use spider wire steath i've got 1000 yards of 50lb fire line you can have
 

John_S

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Re: Braided Line

Fireline, spinning reel, and casting jigs, for 'eyes and smallies, worked pretty well for me. After some initial knot issues, as discussed above, I loved how far you could cast, sensitivity, able to set the hook on long casts, and the abrasion resistance. I found spooling issues were less than typical mono. <br /><br />That said, to some extent, I'm back to using XT for jigging. Some detractors I found: <br />- I was always forgetting to bring the sissors, especially if wading, and its near impossible to chew threw ;-)<br />- I tended to loose some smallies that put up a last minute run, with little line out. With no line streach the rod had to make up all the play. Setting the drag lighter or going to a more limber rod, helped this but lost some hook setting ability on long casts.<br />- Snagging. While you can pull-out some jigs due to the strength, I lost many that wouldn't pullout. The "bow n arrow" method does not work, like it does for mono. Also pulling those snags puts allot of stress on the reel. You need to be careful because it is rather easy to bend the shaft when spool is in the extended position. <br /><br />Not major detractors, but something to pay attention to.
 

Barlow

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Re: Braided Line

I wasted my money on that gorilla garbage when it first came out.<br /><br />Then wasted more money on the fusion funk.<br /><br />Then resisted spider wire for a few seasons .. then was given some to try .. now I swear by it.<br />only super line I use. <br /><br />have heard good things of the power pro and the rip cord stuff JB mentioned .. but I'm real satisfied with the spidey man stuff... especially when it starts to 'break-in' get fuzzy.
 

walleyehed

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Barlow, if you like the spiderwire, humor me and try the Berkly Fireline...I used both, in many applications and the Fireline wins hands down...give it a try!<br />You came down the same path I did, I just went a little farther and tried the Fireline....I "think" you'd like it.
 

gonfishn

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Thanks Muskyone but no thanks..Alot of my tie losses were when I was tieing at night..Need more practice on the feeln thing..But have been practicing on all knots..Just never had a problem before..<br />Must say that braided line was what I was using on the day I got wet..Did save my lure though..I have tried all and hands down the line that holds the best is the best line..I do know that the best test method is a cat test..<br /><br />I put a lure(no hooks for you peta folks)and cast out in yard..let a 15lb kitty attach it self to it. It is great way to test a line tie :eek:
 

snowshoe

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My experience has been that the braided lines are more slippery than mono and traditional knots do not do well. I used a search and rescue knot called the figure 8 knot to hold my terminal tackle or the super lines. I also tried a variety of super lines and have returned to spiderwire fusion. It has a very sensitive touch and very little stretch. Unlike many posters, I use the lighter weight lines -- 4lb strength for jigging walleye and 10# strength for trolling. I did however return to 20# mono for making up my spinners on the bottom bouncers.<br />One problem with the super lines is that like mono, you must check the terminal 3' for nicks and partial breaks and re-tie before you lose the big one. ;)
 

KM2

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Re: Braided Line

The traditional knots don't work well which is fine the polymer (sp) knot is easier. I like spyderwire on all my reels. I may try fireline, since it was suggested. The feel makes up for any casting/spooling problems in my book. Plus no line memory or twist. I hear that people say it's too expensive. I don't think so, because it lasts so long. After a while when it starts to look a little faded and frayed, I'll get out a couple of old reels and just reverse the line on the spool. Like new again. The old stuff is at the bottom as backing and I'm using new line again. <br />My only complaint is if your get a birds nest it's nearly impossible to undo.
 

Barlow

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Re: Braided Line

posted by walleyehed <br />
Barlow, if you like the spiderwire, humor me and try the Berkly Fireline...
want some real humor ... I had a bit of a brain fart and meant to say Fireline ... musta still had the spidey stuff on my mind.<br /><br />think you're confussed now ... stick around I'll show you what confussed is :D :rolleyes:
 
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