Bought my first boat to cut, gut and rebuild from bow to stern, including engine. Killed my back and suffered the wrath of the fiberglass demons

TripleJGraffis

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Here's all the pics I took of the motor as requested.
 

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TripleJGraffis

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LOL
Yep it's an outboard!
Yes clearly lol.... but I can not find out what kind it is. Based off the pictures and what others have told me..... without any identifying information......I can deduce that it is a possible mercury 2 stroke outboard that dates back to 2005 at least or later..... but that's not enough information for mechanics. Many of them are refusing to touch it without knowing what it is.
 

redneck joe

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Look at the last pic with it on the boat. As i mentioned, it is an 85 hp Force not Mercury as the ad states. Probably same year as the boat. The pic with the spark plugs states US Marine poer. Google that to start your history lesson.
 
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They dont make those motors any longer, sadly. Easy to work on basic motor. That said imo you sell or give it away for scrap and after you have decided to keep and repair the boat you find a running motor to replace it with. Parts are getting very hard to find.
 

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Look at the last pic with it on the boat. As i mentioned, it is an 85 hp Force not Mercury as the ad states. Probably same year as the boat. The pic with the spark plugs states US Marine poer. Google that to start your history lesson.
Thanks! I
Look at the last pic with it on the boat. As i mentioned, it is an 85 hp Force not Mercury as the ad states. Probably same year as the boat. The pic with the spark plugs states US Marine poer. Google that to start your history lesson.
I am sorry, I misread what you had preciously stated. I will look into that. Thank you!
 

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They dont make those motors any longer, sadly. Easy to work on basic motor. That said imo you sell or give it away for scrap and after you have decided to keep and repair the boat you find a running motor to replace it with. Parts are getting very hard to find.
I am definitely keeping the boat. I will probably look into selling the motor to make something off of it and then buy another 85 hp used motor.
 

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Once things start, I would like to post updates and pictures and possible videos of the process. Do I do that in this thread, or start a new one? And if I make one, is there a way for comments to be turned off just so my progress can be displayed? I can assume that if I posted updates, that others would comment as much as they have in this thread and things would be looking really messy.
 

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Leave thread here, a mod can change thread title if you want. You can make a new thread when you are done with just what you want but you will be asking questions so you need comments. If you do make a new thread do it at night so chances of someone posting is less.

If you do go with a different motor check the spec plate for max hp and go with that or slightly more. If you resto the boat well you will be adding some weight most likely.

Dont plan on making much money off the motor.
 

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Leave thread here, a mod can change thread title if you want. You can make a new thread when you are done with just what you want but you will be asking questions so you need comments. If you do make a new thread do it at night so chances of someone posting is less.

If you do go with a different motor check the spec plate for max hp and go with that or slightly more. If you resto the boat well you will be adding some weight most likely.

Dont plan on making much money off the motor.
I would like to eventually create a story line tutorial of all the things I did, all the things I failed at and all the things I succeeded in like others have done before me. I did not see any comments in theirs, so there must e a way to close the comment section off...but I also agree....at first, I should post my progress here so I can get help when needed. I think I might just go with a different working motor just to avoid the extra hassle of fixing one up when I am already getting much grief from area mechanics about how old it is and why they wont touch it. The capacity sticker states 6 persons or 750 lbs and max of 85hp engine. Google says anything larger risks ripping the transom apart.

I do not plan on making much....but anything helps to offset other expenses.
 

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So there is an option to shut comments off then?
there is not an option

If you see a thread without many comments just means there was not much interest. You can start your thread with please don't comment, or I don't want to read one comment, go away and see if that works

Maybe do your entire project and keep all info offline. Then real late one night come in and start posting
 

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I have some random questions that I just thought of if you all would be happy to assist with.

1. I am assuming that there is foam in the hull that will need to be removed and replaced. I also assume the foam is there to assist wit stability and buoyancy? If it assists with buoyancy, then theoretically, if there are certain parts of the hull that can have extra foam added to it, would that increase the weight limit? I am a slightly bigger guy and the boat has a 750lb weight limit. 3 grown men could theoretically exceed that limit and I was kind of hoping to have perhaps 4 or 5 people on the boat if possible.

2. I am exploring the option of finding another used but intact and working motor. It seems kind of a pain to find a mechanic around here who is willing to touch the one I have just to clean, bore and reassemble it. I might end up paying the same price for one that is already put together. In searching for a new motor, what are some good questions that I can ask the owner to better help myself come to an educated answer as to whether or not I want to purchase it?

3.The engine max hp limit is 85hp. Can I go larger? Google says any larger risks ripping the transom off the boat. I would like to stick with 85 just because its what I already have, but to be honest, I know next to nothing about boat motors. Will smaller hp reduce the speed/power? Larger increase it? I am not looking for a speed boat, but also not looking for something that can't even reach a kayak's speed LOL, I read that 75-90hp will get me between 25 and 40mph max speed. Is this correct?
 

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there is not an option

If you see a thread without many comments just means there was not much interest. You can start your thread with please don't comment, or I don't want to read one comment, go away and see if that works

Maybe do your entire project and keep all info offline. Then real late one night come in and start posting
I am confused. There was a post here with a complete restoration of this really beautiful blue and white boat that I read and watched videos on. There was not one comment that I saw. and I can't imagine that nobody was interested in it. I could be wrong, but I don't recall the op asking for no comments or seeing any comments on it either
 

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there is not an option

If you see a thread without many comments just means there was not much interest. You can start your thread with please don't comment, or I don't want to read one comment, go away and see if that works

Maybe do your entire project and keep all info offline. Then real late one night come in and start posting

I am confused. There was a post here with a complete restoration of this really beautiful blue and white boat that I read and watched videos on. There was not one comment that I saw. and I can't imagine that nobody was interested in it. I could be wrong, but I don't recall the op asking for no comments or seeing any comments on it either
if you post all here then when complete you stay up late one night copy and paste into a new thread. If a couple posts sneak in whilst doing that you can ask a mod to delete them, of course with a courtesy private message to the person being deleted from the thread. You can also then ask a mod to lock the thread from future posts.
 
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