Boating on a River vs a Lake

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Hello All. Been boating on a lake for a few years now but curious about boating on rivers and anything different that I should be aware of. For example, would anchoring, launching / retreiving be significantly different? Are there certain things that I should keep in mind that wouldn't be seen on a lake? I know the current would be more to work with than a lake unless in a protected area but what else do I need to know?

Also, to give perspective on the type of boat in case that makes a difference - I have a 18 ft runabout I could take out but also have a small fishing boat with a 5HP motor and wonder if that would be enough to handle a river?!?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Re: Boating on a River vs a Lake

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,..... Define "River",....

'round here, "Rivers" are known for Radical bottom changes in depth, 'n consistency,...
'n of course the correspondin' changes in current,...
 

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when retrieving, aim a little upriver in anticipation of the current, or you end up downriver from the trailer. go when its not so busy, it may take a couple tries till you get the hang of it( hitting the trailer can be like shooting a moving target )
 
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That's a big question to answer. It will depend on what river you boat in.
As with all bodies of water you have to watch for obstructions. On the river there will be more.(floating debris)
There might be barge traffic depending what river it is.
The anchoring will be a little more complicated then a lake because of the flow of the water which may be faster from time to time.
River's are more susceptible to variations in water level then lakes.
Is your boat ok for this type of boating, sure is.
The 5hp runabout might cause some problems. Current and location of use will dictate if you can use it.
Boating on a lake is much easier then the river.
Launching and retrieving could be more of a issue with wind and current.
Boating on the river isn't bad at all. Just takes getting used to like anything else.I boat exclusively on the river and have taken a few lenghly trips were you have to do a lot of passing through locks.
 

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Most rivers start out smaller, narrower and shallower and get bigger, wider and deeper the further they go....like the Mississippi...lots of rivers run into the ocean, which is saltwater and has tidal changes which change the depth. Don't be scared to go down a river....just check it out and go for it!.....I've been the full length of the Suwannee River(243 miles) twice now in my canoe and the river never once tried to kill me!...good luck!...
 

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Debris!!! Sometimes it can be really bad. I remember flying full speed down the Columbia River in Oregon and passing an upright, old growth log standing straight up a foot below the surface of the water...scary! On the Ohio we have a lot of commercial traffic and debris/branches/logs get picked back up off of the shore after a good rain. The river's mystique is that it can take you anywhere.

I'm in love with the changing personality and character of the river. So are the people who spend time on the river. River people don't seem to categorize you by what your tow rig is, or what year your boat is ;)
 

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^^^ yep river rats are a friendly bunch:joyous:, love being on the river:D
 

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Some rivers are dammed. low head dams are extremely dangerous and are usually marked by buoys upstream. Avoid getting too close.
 

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Debris!!! Sometimes it can be really bad. I remember flying full speed down the Columbia River in Oregon and passing an upright, old growth log standing straight up a foot below the surface of the water...scary! On the Ohio we have a lot of commercial traffic and debris/branches/logs get picked back up off of the shore after a good rain. The river's mystique is that it can take you anywhere.

I'm in love with the changing personality and character of the river. So are the people who spend time on the river. River people don't seem to categorize you by what your tow rig is, or what year your boat is ;)

That's why were called river rats.:D
 

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on the left side in this pic you can see a tree that is stuck on the dam042.jpg this buoy says danger dam ahead don't pass, not sure about the ones off in the distance, they might say you are an idiot and about to die:confused: there is a large billboard up river that says danger dam ahead, 1 mile
 
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I grew up on the mighty Columbia River and have spent many hours on it. Dams with large reservoirs and cold water year round. In winter the water is 35 and the highest it gets in summer is 65. It can be 5 feet in the middle of the river or 100 feet deep 20 feet from shore. It can be a mill pond one day and a raging torrent the next. A wind can come up and blow against the grain of the current causing white caps 3 feet high in 10 minutes time. Rivers have no patience for stupidity either, give them one reason to make you sorry and they will.

I love big rivers!
 

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I do aboug 80% of my boating on the missouri river, but its a whole different environment than what you guys down south have! At most, its maybe 1/4 to 1/2 mile wide, in some place its maybe 200 yards at best. And SHALLOW! Average depth is under 10 feet, there are holes that are 40 feet deep, but those are rare. You either get very good at reading surface conditions for sandbars, or you improve your wrenching skills for replacing lower units.

Lastly, someone mentioned whitecaps... My river environment is the exact opposite! Doesn't matter how windy it is, a canoe would be safe in a hurricane... The river is too winding and narrow to ever develop any decent waves.
 

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first, i grew up lake boating.
i just had to try some river runnin though. i've done the missouri river at omaha many times.
from what i've observed, it's nothing like lake boating.

-the ramps are steep to launch.
-preferred launch is on the down stream side of the boat dock. as soon as ya clean the dock you'll need to throttle up to just shy of plane, to stand still!.
-on rivers, the outside of the river curve is deep, the inside of the curve is shallow.
plan your fuel stops. when going up river, you'll burn a bunch of fuel.
-river levels can change drastically overnight.
-debris is everywhere. it's luck of the draw not to hit a dead head log or the likes.
-you may encounter large vessels, with large wakes. if your in a small bow rider, your susceptible to scooping up a wave. i did in a 16' trihull after a 35'er or so went by. there's no where to run.
-i've camped over night to find i was near high and dry due to river level drop
-watch large rain up river. it swells the river up stream and picks up debris off the beach and sends it down river. where if your boating, you'll encounter it for sure.
-steep ramps may be dry for launch in the morning, but be totally wet and slick for evening retrieval when everyone is going home.
-if going down river from launch, plan on a long ride back at high rpm. you'll cover a lot of ground when going with the current.
-preferred destination is up river from launch. that way if ya break down, at least you'll float back to your launch site.
-have your boat in max good tune up. ya break down on the river, your at it's mersey. better have a good anchor on board too so as to be able to at least try to stop you down river run.
-never anchor from the stern on a river
-i had a cb when i bought my boat, since i was doing river running, a vhf upgrade was a no brianer. uscg runs the river
-where your pfd on the river. folks drown in rivers, even with a pfd on.
-i ended up getting into the us power squadron because of river running. i needed to know what the signs and makers meant.

i think there's more but can't remember them. i've not been doing the missouri since the last large flood here. it wiped out most of our fuel stops and boat ramp access best i know.

river runnin is great and a whole new experience from lake boating. try it. it's a blast. just be as best prepared as ya can be. get yer ducks in a row prior to launch.
 

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Good advice above, and ziggy hits some important points. I boat on the Illinois and Mississippi, as well as a smallish lake in Canada. River boating is great, espescially when you learn fun places to stop and hang out. Changing conditions (depth), debris and current are the things that really differentiate river boating from lakes.
 

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my vote is that you take out your 5hp unit on the river...leave the larger one for lakes...since debris fields in rivers can appear and change daily I would not take the larger boat on it. if you get into a shallow spot and get hung up,, your 5hp unit can likely be pulled out my yourself, stick your larger boat a ground... you might be waiting for the next hard rain to get it out......:rolleyes:
 

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I was scared of the river too before I tried it & now I love it. I recommend buying a navigation map or better yet install a GPS app on your smartphone like Navionics to get a feel for the river depths, markers, hazards, etc. always be conscious of the current & plan accordingly - don't drop into neutral immediately up-current of a bridge piling for instance. When approaching docks or around other boats, be aware of where the current is taking you. Going head-long into another docked boat is bad.
 

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Re: Boating on a River vs a Lake

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,..... Define "River",....

'round here, "Rivers" are known for Radical bottom changes in depth, 'n consistency,...
'n of course the correspondin' changes in current,...

+1. Sandbars! Used to water ski in the Biloxi (MS) river. So did a friend and family. He would up in a full neck brace for over 6 months after taking a dive on an undetected sand bar.

On just fishing, you never know what boat will come by you, nor how fast. Watch the gator boys and pole retrievers on "Reality TV". The guy with the big swamp buggy in particular. You could be in your 5 hp John and right around the corner from him and others like him and whammo before you knew it.

In the same river had a friend with a 20' IO that he used off shore also. It seemed a tad big but navigated none the less.....no rapids in that river.

Mark
 

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Come on guys. Your probably making him wonder if he really wants to do this. It isn't as bad as it sounds. I have (and still do) boat on the Ohio. Been as far as Cincinnati OH from Pgh.That's a haul. Around 450 miles one way. Never had a problem until last season. Bent one prop.
Looking to go as far down as the TomBigbee when the girlfriend retires.
 
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jc55

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I'm hoping for a gulf trip someday Thalasso. We're hopefully going to lock through for the first time this year for an overnight Pittsburgh trip.

Watermann, been catching some of those coast guard rescues on the columbia . I never knew the Columbia could be so treacherous!
 
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