Basket case 4.3, gonna have some questions

Bumperlt12

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Alright fuel pump is wired up.

Exhaust manifold is pulled to put dipstick in.

Figured might as well prime the oil pump now while I can get valve covers off.... I bought a priming tool you put in a drill.. stuck it down distributor hole and connected to oil pump. Rotating CW.

I can get 40-60 psi on the gauge, but can get anything to come out the top end.. im rotating the engine as well
 
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Bumperlt12

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I primed the oil system for a good 10 minutes and nothing ever came out the top end. Its a brand new engine assembled with lube. I have good oil pressure, so I closed it all up and put it all back together.

Seems im not getting fuel. I sprayed some starter fluid down the carb and it ran for 2 seconds... then I had to leave.

So first thing in the morning im going to figure out what's up with the fuel. Could be an empty tank for all I know.
 

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Lifters pump oil up the pushrods to lube the top end. You can run the priming thing for a month and unless the motor is turning over rapidly, not a drop will show up on top. You have oil pressure, the motor is primed.

How long since the motor ran? It may take a little time to pull fuel from the tank. You can speed it up by using an outboard primer bulb on the hose out of the pump and squeeze until it squirts or if you like the taste of gas, suck on the hose. Don't have a smoke, swallow any gas and don't turn the pump on.

Also since you don't know the state of the gas in the tank, if any, once you get the pump sucking up gas, squirt some into a clear container to examine it for crud and water. Do you have a fuel water separator/filter?
 

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No fiel water separator. Im considering adding one after i get this thing operational.

Brand new engine and significantamount of bolt on components, never ran.

I wired the pump directly to the battery to see if I could hear it or see anything... and the answer is no. I believe the pump might not be operational. I do hear it clicking so im going to take it out and get a closer look
 
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Bumperlt12

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Blew some air through the pump, a bunch of crap came out, not it works.

ENGINE RUNS!! (But)

...but I have water problems.

Theres a lot of water coming out here.. seems odd.
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And my real concern, is theres a lot of water coming out between the spark plugs between cylinders 3 and 5. Hard to tell but the is a pic looking up under the exhaust manifold. Hopefully a missed plug or something?? Seems cylindrical coning out.
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Upon further review of the many pictures I've taken... just wtf is this hole??
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nola mike

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On the outdrive, there's supposed to be a plug. A half dollar with epoxy works very well if you don't have access to the real thing. on the head, a sensor goes there. Not needed for your engine, plug it.
 

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Alrighty. Got the hole in the head plugged.

Need to set timing to 8 btdc. Ran out if time. My guess was pretty close though!

Engine us running pretty good. Still adjustments to be made. Wants to idle a little low.

The hole near the top of the outdrive that I need to plug, didn't go well with epoxy. Whats supposed to go there? Must investigate.

Put it into forward gear and it stalls. So something with the linkage. Shift into reverse and it seens normal, except even at 1500 rpm the prop is barely turning, as if its not in gear. Maybe whatever adjustment is needed will fix both of these issues.
 

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Control panel question

Can anyone give me information on this unit? US Marine is all I know about it. Seems to operate normal except is there a way to increase throttle without shifting into gear??
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nola mike

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Not familiar with that unit, but try pulling the whole throttle handle out/ to the side.
 

Bumperlt12

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You were right on the money!

Didn't have the shifter lined up right when I put outdrive on. Pulled it off, put it back on. All is well.

Looks like I have a small water leak in the top layer of the thermostat housing. I cranked the bolts down tighter (10-15 lbs past spec) and it helped a lot but the leak is still there. So im going to redo the seal in RTV or something I guess.

Small oil leak looks like where the oil pressure switch/sender are T'd. I reused a small extension tube, seems to be from there. I read to not use plumber's tape there cause the devices need a good ground. True/false?

Seems like too much water came in the boat some how. Im wondering if the O ring didn't sit well when I put drive back on. Can that water get into the hull via shifter hole...?

How much oil pressure is too much? I'm seeing 60psi pretty frequently. Also the gauge is a bit jumpy, maybe the leaky sender connection?

Throttle linkage still needs adjustment. Gets stuck in reverse until I push the lever towards forward enough. Also is very "tight" and not easy to adjust RPMs. I feel like there's a 1 inch space that covers the entire throttle range.
 

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Alrighty. Its running well!

Only issue im having is getting reverse to engage properly. i watch the cable move, but rev just doesn't engage now that ive set up everything else properly via chris' video that's in all the threads.

Hopefully nothing got damaged when it was bolted up with the shifter mis-aligned. Worked fine on the water though... albeit stiff

My cables are different than the ones in video, though. Mine are red with three cotter pin adjustment things. Can someone link me the correct procedure for this cable type?
 
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Bumperlt12

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Water is getting into the trim oil. I'm going to replace the seals on the cylinders and undo the transom line connections to drain and hopefully reseal the system. Does anyone have a good source of info for tips?

I found this link helpful

I'm watching youtube videos and searching here as well.

I also still need to adjust the shifting but can't find a how to with the type of cables I have.
 
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