Article written by Ron Reagan

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Originally posted by snapperbait:<br /> Ladies and Germs, tell yer partys to get lost.. Vote with your gut....
You go right ahead, Snapperbait. I'll stick with voting with my mind, thank you. ;)
 

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Originally posted by BinLurkin:<br /> Boomer, you have a point there. My contention is not that he was inapropiatly elected as much as it is that the system needs to be changed. Changed right over to the majority system, no matter who wins that one. That's "The way it ought to be." According to your buddy & drug addict, without compassion, Rush Limbaugh. Yes, I listen to him too. How else you gonna' be up to date if you don't listen to both sides? I'll bet you don't, do you? And you probably think your a "compassionate" republican? A phrase coined by your party. However, there is no such thing. It doesn't reconcile. It's the same as saying you are a christian republican, there is no such thing as they complete opposites.
Now there you go again, Binlurkin. Another liberal ploy to change things to their advantage. BL, NOW HERE THIS!!! The U S of A is a republic. In a republic the states elect the President, not the population as a whole. It was designed this way to keep the Liberals, who love living on top of each other, in the high density cities, from consistanly having an edge over the less dense but larger geographic areas.<br /><br />I guess it came in pretty handy this time, huh BL? :D <br /><br />ps BL, does the fact that you listen to Rush Limbaugh mean I should start listening to Radio America? :p
 

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Yes, it does Boomer. How else you gonna know what your talking about if you don't hear both sides? BTW, what's radio america? I never heard of it. Yep it's a republic alright, but why are we always spreading democracy, if that's the case? You a hippocrate? What's different from the two parties? Only thing I can see is that the R's want to make the millionairs, billionairs. The D's want to spread it around. What's the problem with you? I'm one of the rich people that are harpooning myself to help the country in general. You would sell the country down the drain to put .25 cents in your own pocket, wouldn't you. You need to think bigger, like national, one country, you know? The things you profess when you go to church on Sunday. If you need more money, why don't you take some of your own medicine & work a little harder like we do? The whole nation would benefit if you weren't so selfish.
 

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You go ahead BL, and let some inefficient bureaucrat keep taking more and more of your money and time. Just don't try to send him my way. (by virtue of your vote) I presume that you sent your tax cut back to the Federal Treasury, hmmm?<br /><br />Radio America (if I have the name right) is the new Liberal bankrolled answer to Rush Limbaugh et al. They spend all day talking about how Bush and the Supreme Court stole the election. No one listens to it and as soon as George Soros gets tired of funding a bunch of losers it'll go the way of the Mario Cuomo Show.<br /><br />As for the extra .25 cents? I'd rather determine where it goes, thank you.
 

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I know, that's what I said. If you can put .25 cents in your pocket you'll sell this country to the highest bidder. Your like the old spies that would give our nuclear secrets to the Soviet Union for a mere pittance. $60,000 for that? Are you nuts? It was worth millions. Did I send my rebate back? Yep, same as you did. Difference is I didn't want it, need it or ask for it. Who's the republican now? You sound like the god awful liberal to me. The election? Yep, Gore got the popular, aka, the majority vote, right? Who's supposed to be in charge here the minority? Wanna' 'splain that one to me Lucy? Who's the inificient beauracrate here? You taliking about your decorated war veteran here, Kerry, or the triple amputee that offered up their lives for this country. How come all the war heroes I can think of right now are Democrats? You see, you ain't got a monopoly on patriotism here, do you? We are all the same country here aren't we. If you'd have grown up as I did as a military brat, Father is 30 years army retired, you'd be a patriotic as I am. Not an idiot that would sell this country down the drain for a lousy 25 cents in your pocket.
 

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BL, I agree with you 100% about majority rule. And that is exactly how GW got into the White House. 271 state votes to 266 state votes. Now that was close but it was a majority, wasn't it BL? <br /><br />Just in case you fell asleep during your US Government and History Classes BL, a way back, in about 1787, the legislatures of about 13 or so states got together and said, "it would be nice if we could have a leader that we (THE STATES) elect to take care of certain duties. We will let him handle things that would be most difficult for us to do individually. Every four years, we (THE STATES) will cast votes, in accordance with our size, to vote on that leader again. Each of us (THE STATES) can decide for ourselves, how we want to divy up our alloted votes for each national candidate. This way we can keep the central government, and it's greedy, power hungry, inefficient bureaucrats, from getting too big and from collecting too many 25 centss from our (THE STATES) citizens." :p <br /><br />So you see BL, that's the way it went down and that's still the way it is today, thank Heaven.
 

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Yeah, but, I've never ever heard or read where it was a majority victory. It was decided by the electoral college votes which don't have nothing to do with majority votes. Who was sleeping in the civics class? Me? It don't sound like it to me. Let's have a defense here. 271 to 266 is not close to me, it's a landslide. It wasn't 1787, I ain't that old, it was more like 1969. "Keep the central government, and it's greedy, power hungry, inefficient bureaucrats, from getting too big and from collecting too many 25 centss from our (THE STATES) citizens." Boy, if that's what you think your on the wrong side. That's what Bush is doing.
 

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Socialism will not werk and never has. Experiment with your own country, but leave mine alone.
 

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put .25 cents in your pocket you'll sell this country to the highest bidder
Isn't that exactly what the liberals have been doing with their entitlment programs in order to bribe the voters who didn't know enough to realize socialism has to get paid for someday? Only the 25 cents was going into the pockets of those poor downtrodden (unmotivated) masses who did not take advantage of the education offerred and who thought starting at the bottom was demeaning so never tried.<br /><br />BL, your tone sounds every bit as angry and nasty as you seem to think we conservatives are. Your comment about "compassionate conservatives" and "Christian" is made with what hard evidence? Do you really know us in day to day life well enough to know? You may think so, but I know otherwise. Utterly non-sequitur. My axe to grind is with the irrational point of view the left espouses which is continuing to damage our nation. Its economics, morality, and every other aspect of its world view are short sighted and are destined to fail. I hope people realize this before the damage becomes irrepairable. Look to (honest, not re-written) history. Look at the biggest picture. The conclusion is unescapable to any who are truly open minded. I don't defend everything republican or what every conservative does. But is extremely arrogant for the left to say they have all the answers when all they can manage is to point out problems (which may or may not be real). All their "answers" do is postpone temporarily the paying of the piper, who will most certainly demand full payment with interest. Thus compounding the cost vastly, and sooner rather than later! It is sheer fantasy to think the liberal agenda will ever get us another 100 years. The only thing it might do is denature and demoralize this country to the point where we will be willing to join some sort of glorified global government, much as the EU is doing. I am an American. That will happen over my dead body!
 

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Bin, re the electoral voters, that's one reason we are known as a republic for which we stand. The popular vote option was discussed and the whole scenario of this moot discussion was forseen way way back. We are after all known as the UNITED STATES. Don't worry about it. Some day the electoral vote will swing your way, and you'll lose the popular vote. That will be tough toenails for the Repubs but you won't hear any whining from us about it. THe dem outrage strikes us as silly. It's like agreeing on the rules and trying to change them when the rules don't work out for you. And then when the referee(supreme court) makes the ruling, you say the ref is in the repubs pocket???? Bad sports you are, in keeping with the general lack of dem fair play in my view. I do agree with you Bin, with your views regarding GWB's government expansion. Bugs the heck out of me, but his handling of the war takes precedence in my book.
 

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oh yeah, forgot to mention, greedy is good. Compassion is voluntary . A fundamental, bedrock reason that the United States has been able to succeed, is that each individual is working every day, motivated by an interest in making a better life for self...aka self interest...aka greed by the dems. You have this notion that acting in ones self interest is a bad thing??? please reevaluate that as you are trying to remove the incentive that we all work for, the one that has made the USA the place people want to go to, not from.
 

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Originally posted by BinLurkin:<br /> Yeah, but, I've never ever heard or read where it was a majority victory. It was decided by the electoral college votes which don't have nothing to do with majority votes. Who was sleeping in the civics class? Me?
YES, You, Binlurkin. I can still hear ya sawing the logs. What do you think the Electoral College is and where do you think the votes that they cast originate from?<br /><br />Each state is alloted so many Electoral Votes, based on their population. Each state may choose how to cast their votes. They could hold a popular election within the state OR the state legislature could cast the votes. As it stands all states choose to do it by popular vote. <br /><br />Once the ballots, within each state, are cast, the individual states can also determine whether they want to apportion their electoral votes to each candidate, reflecting the public vote (example-60% for candidate X and 40% for candidate Y) or give all of their electoral votes to the candidate that received the majority (51%) Also called 'Winner take all'.<br /><br />You can go back to sleep now BL, class is over.
 
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First, why on earth does anybody give a rats *** what Ron Reagan has to say? He's no more qualified than anybody else on this board.<br /><br />Second, I highly reccommend taking a look at the article in this link:<br /><br />It paints a good picture of why we have an electoral college. A candidate could win the General Election simply by campaigning in the Northeast and California. <br /><br />Our country is split between Urban and Country folks more than any other statistic. More than race, religion, anything. Where you live will determine who you vote for more than anything else.<br /><br />Some of the stats:<br /><br />Square miles of Counties won:<br /><br />Gore: 575,184<br />Bush: 2,432,456<br /><br />Counties won:<br /><br />Gore: 676<br />Bush: 2,436<br /><br /> http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/cbc/map.htm <br /><br /> http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/pres84.htm <br /><br /><br />You can pick out nearly all of Americas major cities simply by looking at the Blue.
 

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Originally posted by 1994lundminnow:<br /> First, why on earth does anybody give a rats *** what Ron Reagan has to say? He's no more qualified than anybody else on this board.<br /><br />Second, I highly reccommend taking a look at the article in this link:<br /><br />It paints a good picture of why we have an electoral college. A candidate could win the General Election simply by campaigning in the Northeast and California. <br /><br />Our country is split between Urban and Country folks more than any other statistic. More than race, religion, anything. Where you live will determine who you vote for more than anything else.<br /><br />Some of the stats:<br /><br />Square miles of Counties won:<br /><br />Gore: 575,184<br />Bush: 2,432,456<br /><br />Counties won:<br /><br />Gore: 676<br />Bush: 2,436<br /><br /> http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/cbc/map.htm <br /><br /> http://www.usatoday.com/news/vote2000/pres84.htm <br /><br /><br />You can pick out nearly all of Americas major cities simply by looking at the Blue.
The Electoral vote system was not employed by accident. This info just confirms the validity and wisdom of it. The current cry for election by popular vote just shows how poor a job the public school system had done to educate the students on the philosophy and wisdom of the Electoral College.<br /><br />You still awake Binlurkin?
 
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