Anyone ever redo one of these before?

[1moproject]

I bought a Bayliner 14 a while back and started pulling things off it to restore it but ran out of time before winter. Now I've pulled the tarp off and started giving it second thought because I'm having a hard time justifying the cost of ga$ for the big boat this summer. So the goal is this:

Pull everything off the Bayliner in an attempt to lighten it up as much as possible and convert it into a utility skiff. I have a spare 9.9 Johnson that I plan on using for it, so it needs to be light. I'm not interested in speed, but I would like it to at least plane with 2 adults on board. My questions are:

1) The cap is riveted on. If I pull the rubrail and drill out the rivets, should the cap come off relatively easily, or is it sealed? I'd like to be able to reuse the rubrail if possible, but I'm not sure how stiff the sides are going to be.

2) What should I do about the floor? As a skiff, I don't really care about a plywood floor, I can build bench seats out of plywood and glass them, but I'm not sure whether I have enough structural rigidity without putting in the cross pieces between the stringers. Would the benches alone give me enough, or should I replace everything, put in a floor, and use pedestal seats?

3) What about flotation? The only foam left in the boat is in the bow, and I'm pretty sure it's wet. I'd like to pull it out completely. Do I need to replace it? If I build bench seats, can I fill them with some type of flotation?

I'd really like to get this little boat on the water soon, and for as little $ as possible. Thanks in advance for the replies.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

will be a nice project. good reading an info here:
http://forums.iboats.com/forumdisplay.php?f=407

this will show you a separation, http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/projectTut,p,346,00.html

 

[TheWoodCrafter]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

Looks like a great project.

But I wouldn't plan on using her real soon unless your unemployed and can work on it full time.

Some of these guys might know if 9.9HP will do it or not but seems a little small to me.

What condition is the trailer in? Any work to do on it?
Lights work, hitch O.K., bearing grease?

 

[Chinewalker]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

I would skip the rub rail and replace it with a pair of 1x2s, one on the outside, one on the inside, screwed together through the top lip of the hull to stiffen up the sides. You'll still need some structure in the hull via stringers and such to have it keep its shape. You might be able to make a sandwich core in place of stringers, using foam sheeting. A new transom would be good, too, running full width and height with one layer and doubling it up around the motor clamping area. A short foredeck might be a good idea, too. Lots of possibilities...
- Scott

 

[oops!]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

uh.....gee.....im not sure ....but from pic # 2......IT LOOKS LIKE A BAYLINER !!!!!........


good project !
in pic # 2....the drivers console....it looks like it is dropped....a major structural porblem....but it seems to have disappeared in other pics.....

as far as the deck.....(floor).....

in that boat....there is foam under it....running from the stringer to the chine.

in that boat ....it is structural....so the foam and the deck pretty much need to be there unless you wanna add some more layers of glass to the hull.

chinewalker's idea will work to add rigidity of the sides.......

id suggest you sit in the boat with a sody pop or two and ..."play boat"....
that will give you an idea in your mind of what exactally you want.
once you have done that....draw it up and we can guide you to how to make it happen.....

btw....its a glass boat....you can do anything you want to it

cheers
oops

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

a 9.9 would never plane that boat.

 

[1moproject]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

Looks like a great project.

But I wouldn't plan on using her real soon unless your unemployed and can work on it full time.

Some of these guys might know if 9.9HP will do it or not but seems a little small to me.

What condition is the trailer in? Any work to do on it?
Lights work, hitch O.K., bearing grease?

Well, I'm in real estate, which in the current market is pretty close to being unemployed. I have more time and less money than I used to.

The trailer is in GREAT shape, and is the reason I bought the boat. The hull was an afterthought, but the more I looked at it, the more possibilites I thought it had as a skiff. Yes, I know it is a Bayliner... but so what? By the time I finish stripping things off of it, it will be a bare hull... a blank canvas. I have a grand total of $150 invested here guys, boat motor and trailer, most of which I expect to get back by selling or parting out the motor I pulled off of it.

After I posted this I went out and pulled the motor and wiring out, finished gutting the interior, and drilled out most of the rivets holding the cap on. Come to find out there is no 5200 or anything else for that matter holding the cap on, so removing it is going to be a breeze.

Oops!, the drivers console dropping is really not an issue, since by tomorrow it will be GONE.

 

[oops!]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

i was kidding about it being a bayliner my friend....these guys here know i own one too !....(one of three boats)

and i still think its a good proj

cheers
oops

 

[1moproject]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

a 9.9 would never plane that boat.

I think it might. I'm going to try to keep this boat as light as possible, ie no battery, steering, etc, just some bench seats and a 6 gal gas tank. In the 9.9's previous life I had it on a 14.5 Gloucester fiberglass skiff (heavy) and it would plane with 2 aboard. Skiing, on the other hand, was out of the question.

 

[1moproject]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

i was kidding about it being a bayliner my friend....these guys here know i own one too !....(one of three boats)

and i still think its a good proj

cheers
oops

I figured you were kidding.

I'm going to keep pulling her apart then decide what to do about the floor. It would probably be easier to go back with a floor, but without one it's possible to sit much lower in the boat. With the cap gone, that might be an advantage.

Does anyone have any pics of a boat with the 1x2's as a rubrail? I like the idea of stiffening up the sides, but I'm not sure how it would look on a fiberglass boat.

 

[oops!]

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absolute minimum of 35 hp bud....9.9 is a kicker for that

 

[oops!]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

its not as much as the weight as the hull design

 

[oops!]

Re: Anyone ever redo one of these before?

ive seen them with 1x2's


if you glass them and finish them real nice it can look really good.and be as strong as a rock...... like a old time dinghy or skiff !

 

[oops!]

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the difference in the deck height is only max 3/4 inch higher from the top of the stringers.......you could chop the stringers down and reglass over them....but thats a lotta work to lower the deck 2 ins

 

[1moproject]

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Well, she's topless.

I pulled the cap off today- no crane or lift necessary, just a wonderbar and some muscle. It popped right off.

To my surprise, the foam in the bow and stern is intact and DRY. (Seriously. I drilled several "exploratory" holes.) I was going to rip it out, but I think I will leave it, at least in the stern. I may rework the bow casting platform to be a little shorter.

Oops! I'm curious to why you say the 9.9 won't plane her. Not questioning you, just wondering why you think that. If you were a bit closer, I'd put a case of your favorite golden beverage on it... At any rate, I'm going to mount it on there and take it out in a flat lake next week to test it out (lightly) because if it won't work that will really alter the plans I have for this little boat.