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[jtexas]

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LOL at grandlarceny..."marital law"...took me awhile but I got it.<br /><br />and while we're at it, what's all this fuss about hooters? I happen to be a big fan of hooters...what?...oh, sorry...never mind.

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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Here is one for you...to truly stir the pot.<br />Two nights back we had an excellant documentary on "Lynching in America". <br />It was based in States now hit by this disaster, and the period covered was last centuary. It was so good, I felt very sorry for the Black Americans and what they had to endure.<br />BUT, next night, I see all their grandkids looting NO. <br />I don't mind people looting food and shelter to survive, but it didn't look like those items in the shopping trolleys.<br />What always amazes me is, in times of crisis, it is always the a.r.s.e end of society where civil obediance breaks down.<br />I do feel sorry for everybody else there tho.<br />Cheers<br />Phillip

 

[Triton II]

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Now the true immenseness of this tragedy is being reported here in Australia - our initial reports suggested 9 (yes, just nine!) people were confirmed dead - it is simply incredible to me the depths of depravity that are being exhibited by some (probably very few) of the remaining population of NO. I hope that the authorities (NG etc) get the support of all sections of US society and take care of the situation ASAP.

 

[KaGee]

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Originally posted by jtexas:<br />

Originally posted by salty87:<br /> flights into town were cancelled on saturday so no more tourists were brought in. nobody thought about the fact that planes couldn't be used to even get tourists out!<br />

Ever seen an airplane that sat through a hurricane? No, because it would be an unrecognizeable hunk of trash.

The argument some have J is that the airport was closed way too early stranding thousands of visitors. This was a concern to some even before the storm hit.

 

[SCO]

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I'd like to believe that KenImZoom, but think this is a test of what happens when you have population that is born to depend on government assistance, with the resentment that they are discriminated against and entitlement/payback hate towards their oppressors. Yes, they as a people are and were victims of unbearable discrimination but the way we(the USA) have gone about rectifying the situation has resulted in more hate, more polorization, more fear, more lawlessness, .....thanks to J.Jackson style mentality. MLKing had it right, his vision was right, and it was sidetracked with his death.

 

[jtexas]

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Originally posted by Kiwi Phil:<br /> Here is one for you...to truly stir the pot.<br />Two nights back we had an excellant documentary on "Lynching in America". <br />It was based in States now hit by this disaster, and the period covered was last centuary. It was so good, I felt very sorry for the Black Americans and what they had to endure.<br />BUT, next night, I see all their grandkids looting NO.

Phil, please note that the looters you saw on the news were not all the grandchildren of the people who were featured in the documentary you mentioned.<br /><br />I realize you were speaking figuratively, but I wanted to make you aware that your statement really is offensive to many Americans of all races; but the word "offensive" isn't really strong enough to convey just how offensive it really is. I don't know if there is an analogy, but this might help you to understand a little better: imagine hearing a joke about pedophelia on the day of a victim's funeral, if the victim were a close relative.<br /><br />Note: I'm not speaking for all Americans, just for myself and many, many others.

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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You are right of course jtexas.<br />It just seemed to me ironic. Still does actually.<br />I am not sure these days if I am a racist. <br />I try hard to be equally open minded to any person, until they give me cause to think otherwise.<br />The more I see of the victims and the desperate situation they are in the more I feel for them.<br />I do not associate them with the footage I have seen of looters.<br />Those individuals, however few there are of them, make me quite angry, and wrongly I tag them by their colour and their terrible speech.<br />Maybe I am the only one to take that approach, and yes it is one of my weaknesses.<br />We have had a handful of Aussie tourists make it out in the past hours and they talked on TV of some very serious criminal activity, right where they were.<br />The Armed escort that made it possible for their vehicle to drive out looked pretty serious and really tooled-up. Amazed me. Just how bad is it there. <br />I wonder if all our developed societies live on the brink of chaos.<br />Turn the power and water off, remove authority for a week and we degenerate in to a 3rd world Nation. Ruled by the scum at the bottom of society.<br />Cheers<br />Phillip

 

[KaGee]

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Hi Phil,<br /><br />I would hope that the rest of the nation would react more civil.<br /><br />N.O. had the highest murder rate in the country prior to the storm. Drugs, drive-by shootings, etc.. A real wholesome place to raise your family if you get my drift.

 

[POINTER94]

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An armed citizenry would avert much of this foolishness.

 

[rodbolt]

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me an pointer agree again . I think firearm safty and handling training should be part of high school, along with how to buy real eastate and fill out tax forms and a few other things that most just are not prepared for by the end of high school. however I realize there is a segment of our society that could not safely open a pocket knife nor pour pee out of a boot with the instructions on the bottom.

 

[Ralph 123]

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Anyone remember the really pretty African American woman who used to work for Bill O'Reilly? I think her last name in Neville. <br /><br />Anyway, she did an interview late last night with Greta Van S on Fox. She lives in NO and her whole family is down there. She started telling stories she heard from her family:<br /><br />1. Inside the Dome she told a story about a guy who raped and killed a 7 year old. Her cousin became so afraid for her life, she ran out<br /><br />2. On the overpass Looters were robing people and then trying to sell the stuff to other people on the road. At night, they would all get drunk, do drugs and get into fights with broken bottles, knives, etc. Her cousin became so scared she jumped in the water and swam away depite the pollution, snakes, and some say sharks.<br /><br />3. Looters were just going house to house and terrorizing anyone left behind<br /><br />There was more but that's all I can remember right now...<br /><br /><br />Then there is this from a refugee in a shelter in today's paper:<br /><br />

Asked how he grappled with the images of desperation tinged with evil in New Orleans, Hanson kept his face serene. <br /> <br /> What we've seen in New Orleans is not the act of a vengeful God,'' Hanson insisted. Nor do I believe this is a matter of race or class. What've all of us have been reminded of this week is that without law, without God, there is only chaos.''

 

[Buttanic]

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See my previous post. A lot of the national news report are based on rumor not actual eye wittnesses. Unfortunatly when it turns out to be a rumor the news doesn't go back and say it never happened it was only a rumor. I am 25 miles from the Super Dome, we have many evacuees here and no trouble.<br /><br /> http://www.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=014012

 

[rodbolt]

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first thing on my hurricane preparedness list is. Check ammunition supply and firearms for working condition. then I go check the genset and fuel supplies then its on to the food and water. having lived through a few of these events I have seen looting as a problem in some areas. its less in rural AL and MS and in homes here cause we are mostly armed. thugs rarely target places where the potential for armed resistance is highly likly. most of us here also know that for 3-5 days after the event we are on our own. so we keep our scanners on, keep the vhf set to scan and go no where without the hand held VHF. something about disasters bring out the veryt best in society along with some of the very worst. luckily the best normally are vastly more in numbers than the worst. after isabelle"sight seers" in my area were usually met with armed citizens and asked what they were doing then politly asked to leave. althogh I did have one moron neighbor that I had to go ask the chief of police,who was riding with the fire chief, to go tell the man to quit burning brush on the day after isabelle or I was going to have to shoot him. both officials were dumbstruck that this yankee transplant would burn brush the day after a storm like isabelle. had it got out of control all of us back here in the woods would have been burned out. some city folk just aint got it upstairs sometimes.