Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Nice photos, and nice rigs there

My dad bought a 1986 Sea Nymph Fish-N-Ski 19' that is identical to your 19' CC right down to the paint

We used it in the Great Lakes trolling for salmon from '86 thru 2001 when he sold it to buy a 24' Seaswirl.

He now wants to sell the fiberglass rig so he can buy the same boat back...but the guy wants to keep it. It's been garaged a mile down the road and hasn't even been used. We will get it bak someday. It even still has the original 90hp Johnson on it and our old 10hp kicker.

He is now looking for a CC Sea Nymph Striper or Starcraft mariner.

So I know how you feel about the Sea Nymph hulls. Great boats, built just like all the Starcrafts. Actually was started by the same folks after they sold Starcraft back in the day.

Good luck with the projects, you seem to have gotten some great prices on the resale.

Thanks! Well tell your dad to keep checking ebay and craigslist! I have seen some for sale with this hull but not many because of the great hull design people are holding onto them! Heres a link to do a multiple search for craigslist listings without having to change your browser to fire fox etc. It workd great for me! http://www.searchtempest.com/

Good luck finding one!

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

It certainly looks like you know what you are doing and I look forward to getting some tips and advice from your resto thread. I don't believe anyone else that has or will restore a Starcraft on here does it as a profession. We do it for the enjoyment of the boats and sharing with other nuts on here. Heck, even with our mistakes we still get encouragement and advice. Most of us don't have the resources to build a perfect boat, but we do what we can and are proud of the outcome. Its nice to see the custom ideas of approx 300 people and I certainly am blessed they allow me to be here. I believe getting there is half the fun and with these guys getting there with them along for the ride is MOST of the fun. Take a look at some of the finished projects and you will see the brotherhood I refer to. Take care & good luck.
Dale

I love the quote! I totally agree with you! Half the fun is getting there. And there is no other feeling of pulling up to your favorite fishing grounds in the middle of no where for me thats the atlantic ocean and the overwhelming feeling of pride for all the hard work blood sweet and almost tears that we all put into these tinny's


Its also nice getting compliments at the dock or ramps. But no one but you knows how much time and hard work and sleepless nites (thinking of ideas)that you have put into her and thats the best feeling when she is all done! (well there never really done) We are always updating and upgrading and changing things to try to get them better then perfect. But you get the drift!

And I have read quit a few resto's on here and I have also learned from them etc... I think these forums are great on the aluminum vessels. They are so informative and helpful especailly to a novist just starting out!

Thanks for the kind words and compliments.

I have been working overtime and havent had any time to get started here. Sept is striper season for us here and the water temp will cool down some so i will be doing alot of fishing the next month and a half etc But come oct nov dec jan feb mar april I will be on these boats like rivets! I have a seasonal business that slows in the winter so i have nothing but time when im not doing some other work! I cant wait to get started!

 

[North Beach]

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[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

O Hi NB! I was just siping my 12:30 Am Latte Sorry I couldn't respond to you sooner!

Well first i would just like to say I have a brian and i know how to use it!

Ok well before I opened a ibouts forum account and read any posts here being that I am self employed during the day and my business is year round yet very busy (seasonal). And i am employed 3 days a week at night, and I have a passion for aluminum boats what I did was....


1. I posted my 191 seanymph striper on craigslist not restored! I did this as a business tactic to get a feel for what people thought of aluminum boats in my generalized area and to see if I got any response or calls on a un-rebuilt aluminum boat in good running condition. I also as a marketing tacktic put a sence of urgency in my craigs post by stating that I had a new boat on the way so there was a sense of ugency to sell to viewers of the listing. Again a business marketing tactic there!


The reason for doing so was because I wanted to see if a cc aluminum boat can sell here in my generalized area for what I felt I would want to get for them. Well I got a huge postive response. Better then expected.

I did this before i ran out and just started buying boats! Im a business man first! I did this as a business marketing/servey to see what I was getting myself into here as a part time business venture during the winter months!

Here on Long Island There are mostly center console boats being used. You either see very large vessels. Speed boats. And mid to large center console boats being used! comonly 20ft and up. more cc then anything!


2. That posting on craigs thats (my business) but thanks for sharing it with the rest of the world here on iboats! Your a trooper N.B!

3.I have been looking at some 1985 islanders. If I did say holiday then i stand corrected. I am looking for a 26ft (islander). If I did say holiday it was probably when i got home off the tug boat and was just doing some online business and checked the forum and might have typed the wrong model because I had been sleep deprivated and reading other posts etc!

4. I have restored and rebuilt 3 and a half aluminum vessels, a 141 seanymph FM to near perfect factory look restoration, and I have rebuilt using my newer technics a 171 seanymph striper cc and a 16 ft bowrider starcraft conversion to cc using my technics, and I reconditioned my 191 seanymph striper to use this season before her overhaul this winter.

5. I think that i have added alot to these forums. I have posted with people having problems with there 90hp merc outboards a similar prob i was having and i fixed it and posted up what i did etc. Im sure that will help someone etc... And i did it on two seperate threads as well because it was the same prob with 2 diff threads.

6. I also think on your threads and others I have posted a postive view on other newer technics of rebuilding these boats! Not restoring aluminum boats. Restoring them is great if thats what your into. But im into rebuilding them making them better stronger leak proof and able to handle more HP or be able to handle the higher wight of a 4 stroke or twin applictaions on the transom!


7. Since I have joined iboats forums you have given me a hard bad welcome! Like in grade school when the new kid on the block arived etc... Very childish of an elder as yourself I must say N.B. i dont know what it is or why? But I know there are 4 devils in life (Lust, envy, hate, and jealousy!) So whatever it is, Its not gods work for sure!


8. Just because you don't agree with what another says etc it dosent mean what there saying is wrong or bad it just (is what it is) freedom of speach. There views on things. You can try to down me or put me down or complain about me all you want. But we have people fighting right now in this country so you and i can post threads on iboats of whats on our minds and of our ideas and thoughts if it is pertaining to the subject at hand. (ALUMINUM BOATS)! And I have never said i was the best rebuilder or restore-er etc "you said I was"....

I had never put you or anyone down or said that you or they or anyone was or were doing anything or any project at all wrong or poorly etc. I have in many threads and posts given you and others praise and I think that you do some top notch quaility work and have said so in many posts.

So I don't know why you of all people are giving me such a hard time. I am not a know it all. And I have been reading and following many threads here on iboats picking up tips and tricks etc that i would have never thought of.

I did kinda hijack a thread when I first opened up a iboats forum account but thats bc i was new to the forums and didnt know the rules of the land sort a speak.


So I hope i answered all your questions correctly and thanks for trying to make a liar out of me and trying to put me down! But it diddnt work capt. I am a very strong minded person and it will take alot more then that to bring me down! But thanks for trying!

I am not a liar nor will I ever be! I am just a gut who is living in Long Island and couldnt afford a big bad fiberglass center console so he started out small with a 14 ft boat and worked his way to a 19 aluminum boat and has a passion for aluminum boats now!

I havent given away all of my technics and ways of rebuilding aluminum boats yet. I have alot of knolegable input to give viewers and i will continue to post replys where i want to, because thats what these forums are for and thats why I live in America etc....


And thanks for letting everyone here on iboats know that you N.B are my biggest fan! Cheers to you!


If you have anymore questions for me N.B! I will be more then happy to answer them for you! And its to bad that the original quote unquote hijacked post was removed and deleted because we were talking about some very interesting topics and i had added some very good knolegable technics about corrosion and electrolicics... Etc And where to mount batterys and battery switches etc. And also about adding zincs to the hull not just the motor and also About WHY NOT TO REMOVE THE CASTING DECK FRAME WORK or the aluminum support work that goes from port to stabard at the bow but hey... It sounds to me like you are the know it all not me with your replies that day! It was a great debate! And topic!


But what do i know. Im just a middle aged idiot as you say that knows nothing according to you because i restored 1 boat and rebuilt 1 cc and converted 1 16ft bowrider to a cc and reconditioned my 191 seanymph striper so shes sea worthy to use for a season before i rebuild her! But hey. What do I know. I guess thats whats great about these forums. You make some friends and loose some and learn things along the way!

After this post I want to get back to the topic here and thats (Aluminum boats and restore rebuild methods)! I don'y have time for childish games. I just want to set the record strait here!


I will put my money where my mouth is when I rebuild these next couple of boats!

I will be finishing a job early tm so i will have daylight and time to get some pictures up of the 21 starcraft cc finally .

 

[fshngho]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

But if your building a serious offshore tiny you may want to go with star board for the flooring. Do it 1nc. Do it right! Rebuild this boat this time and make her better

He is serious and he does it right, just like last time


I Just think im smart for not rebuilding these things with wood which is the same stuff most people are ripping out and doing over etc.. Its a no brainer!

So we aren't smart because we use wood albeit its epoxied and sealed. We may not have the funds or want the extra weight[/I
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That old six banger is not siping fuel. Shes sucking it and puking it out the exaust! And sure if you build this boat with no built in fuel cells and light wood rtc sure maybe she will hit 30 mph tops

He knows, its not a race boat, besides why buy more motors when he has a perfectly good one?

And P.S if the recomended HP rating is lets say 140hp And you put a 200hp on it. Its not ileagal in any way whatsoever! Vessels over 28 ft dont have recomened HP ratings! Because of there size and wieght. So if I had a 28 cape dorey with a 275 chrysler and swaped it out for a 400 cat diesel are you telling me the coast guard is going to do what?
Nothing ! So that theroy is out the window!
Its just a recomendation! Not a law!


UHH wrong. We aren't talking 28 footers. Yes you can get a ticket for overpowering, fresh or salt water

Whats wrong NB? Are you mad that someone has already built a 22 CC with the same hull your building? Don't worry, Your the man NB, Im sure she will come out like a gem! Or you can just be the first to put a bracketed outboard on your 22 islander hull conversion! Maybe that will cheer you up!

Never has been a competition, you don't get it, he dosen't want twin OBs


These were from one thread. I have read others you posted on, insulting others work, motors etc. You may be trying to make a buck but this is a hobby for us. Your arrogance and " do it my way" attitude is what myself and others don't care for. Its not what you know, its how you share it, and your knowledge just isn't worth it
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[North Beach]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Sorry Ed! I'm just having a bad day and a couple of your posts really irritated me. After thinking for a while I went back and deleted them myself.

Won't happen again bud and have a nice day.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Sorry Ed! I'm just having a bad day and a couple of your posts really irritated me. After thinking for a while I went back and deleted them myself.

Won't happen again bud and have a nice day.

I personally think we have the best collection of aluminum enthusiasts to be found anywhere on the net. When we work together we can kick butt.

All "irritations" buried......... I think all the comments were meant well however......... maybe we should all be cognizant of our delivery ......... I too am part of that problem. (Must be from where I grew up on LI )

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

But if your building a serious offshore tiny you may want to go with star board for the flooring. Do it 1nc. Do it right! Rebuild this boat this time and make her better

He is serious and he does it right, just like last time


I Just think im smart for not rebuilding these things with wood which is the same stuff most people are ripping out and doing over etc.. Its a no brainer!

So we aren't smart because we use wood albeit its epoxied and sealed. We may not have the funds or want the extra weight[/I
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That old six banger is not siping fuel. Shes sucking it and puking it out the exaust! And sure if you build this boat with no built in fuel cells and light wood rtc sure maybe she will hit 30 mph tops

He knows, its not a race boat, besides why buy more motors when he has a perfectly good one?

And P.S if the recomended HP rating is lets say 140hp And you put a 200hp on it. Its not ileagal in any way whatsoever! Vessels over 28 ft dont have recomened HP ratings! Because of there size and wieght. So if I had a 28 cape dorey with a 275 chrysler and swaped it out for a 400 cat diesel are you telling me the coast guard is going to do what?
Nothing ! So that theroy is out the window!
Its just a recomendation! Not a law!


UHH wrong. We aren't talking 28 footers. Yes you can get a ticket for overpowering, fresh or salt water

Whats wrong NB? Are you mad that someone has already built a 22 CC with the same hull your building? Don't worry, Your the man NB, Im sure she will come out like a gem! Or you can just be the first to put a bracketed outboard on your 22 islander hull conversion! Maybe that will cheer you up!

Never has been a competition, you don't get it, he dosen't want twin OBs


These were from one thread. I have read others you posted on, insulting others work, motors etc. You may be trying to make a buck but this is a hobby for us. Your arrogance and " do it my way" attitude is what myself and others don't care for. Its not what you know, its how you share it, and your knowledge just isn't worth it
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Ok! Thanks for the input! I guess the way I type things it comes out wrong! If you were talking with me in person you would know that I was just trying to give some input and MY advice, not telling others what to do. Thats what these forums are for. And I have read a few and my posts where no diff from other threads as far as people speaking there thougts etc.

When I said do it right I wasn't trying to say that he isnt a serious builder or that he dosent do things right or that hes not doing it right. I guess i should have revised the wording. I just know if he did the job with starboard he would be very pleased etc because its a fishing boat hes building.



Never said anyone wasn't smart. What I said was i think I am being smart for not re-using wood on these boats. And as far as wieght goes its not heavier then wood with resin then glue then vynl or carpet. And the price when its all said and done is not that much more but to each is there own. People can do what they want. I was just trying to give MY input and advice... And I am not a rich Long islander living in the hamptons here drinking martinies ok. Lets get this strait. I have had a professional window tinting business for 12 years. I install professional window film on Buildings, Houses, Cars, Boats. It has been a very good business to me but I am far from rich! So its not like I have a endless supply of funds to rebuild these boats. The way I do them I think is alot cheaper then alot of rebuilds I have seen. Its mostly time and hard work!


And as far as N.B motor goes he can do whatever it is he wants to do. As I said it was my suggestion and advice and a idea I threw out to him... As far as it being a race boat I never said that it was. Just when your running far out it is always good to get there a little quicker then not and if you read the post there are valid reasons why.


As far as the coast guard giving a fine or tickets in my decades of boating I have never seen or heard of a ticket ever been given for uped horse power. And on all the tests I have taken for boating licences etc I have never read up on any tickets ever been given out nore warnings etc and I think you are wrong. But it dosent really matter because people will and can do what they want. So if I want to put a 300 hp on my 14 ft tinny I will... Get the point... Coast guard has better things to do!


And I know we were not talking 28 footers i was just given an example. Now with fresh water some lakes have hp restrictions. I know that. But I think you are wriong about saltwater or where I am from at least. So you show me any info on the subject and proove me wrong, thats all. Iether way it will never stop anyone from uping there hp if they wanted to!


And as far as N.B thread He never said he diddnt want twins or a single O/B he said he was thinking about it etc. But he likes the I/Os So I was giving again my input etc... In the end N.B will do what he wants and im sure it will come out just awsome!


As far as my arrogance it may just be the way I am typing and its coming out the wrong way. But I am not at all arrogant. And this is a hobby for me as well but I want to see if I can make a buck or to when im slow in the winter is all. Plus id be saving some tinnys from the scraper. And its only your input that my advice is not worth it but others may think differntly and thats your appoinion and thats fine!



And also I don't understand why people had thought some comments where directed towards N.B but thats just not the case. I was just being me and like ai said I am deff not a poet...


But thanks for all of your concerns and I hope I straitened them all out for you! Happy boating!

Maybe we can get back to talking boats here and not this B.S

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Sorry Ed! I'm just having a bad day and a couple of your posts really irritated me. After thinking for a while I went back and deleted them myself.

Won't happen again bud and have a nice day.

No prob N.B ..... I will try to word things better so they come out the right way. I think that is a big part of my prob here. Wasn't trying to put you down ever. I think you do some of the best work I have seen and you have a great setup and would just like to say sorry as well if things came out the wrong way! Well im going to head out and take some pics the rains starting to die down. so Ill be back with some pics of the 21 cc starcraft!

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

I personally think we have the best collection of aluminum enthusiasts to be found anywhere on the net. When we work together we can kick butt.

All "irritations" buried......... I think all the comments were meant well however......... maybe we should all be cognizant of our delivery ......... I too am part of that problem. (Must be from where I grew up on LI )

Yes we do! Yes we can! And agreed! As far as being from L.I I do think thats part of the prob for me as well hehehe...... I think its just our quick fast talking and maybe I am and do sound aragant to others but if that the case I never meant to be..... So Anyway off to get these pictures taken!

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Honestly...... yes. LI has a slightly different attitude

If you live Nassau/Suffolk.....that's the Island but Queens is the city LOL and Brooklyn is Brooklyn !!!!

Get away from that crowded place! You will learn to slow down and enjoy life ............

now back on topic....... where are those new boat pics?

IMO if you want to see the PERFECT aluminum boat and build look at what this one is about http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=363271

Followed by a few other's in the completed project section.

 

[North Beach]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Jeez Bob! Anybody can build one from scratch

BTW folks. I'm totally embarassed about all this. Which is exactly why I went back and deleted my posts. I'm truly sorry SNS and anyone else saw them.

Again, I apologize.

Now, lets get a few more things straight.

• 
  I don't consider myself any sort of Grand Boat Restorer! The LL looks the way it does because I went way off the deep end and frankly spent more money on it than I ever want anyone to know.

• 
  There are a bunch of folks on these forums with what I consider a huge amount of mechanical ability (something I do not posess).

• 
  I would love to bracket the back of the CC and hang a couple of say 75HP 4 strokes off the back but one of you folks would have to clean out your spare bedroom for me. That is assuming my wife didn't outright kill me on the spot, so it looks like I'm gonna rebuild the I/O

• 
  I work on aluminum boats because I know absolutely nothing about glass and gell coats and I consider aluminum easier

• 
  I'm not a rich man! I hustle my butt off on the two business I own with help from a couple family members. I COULD afford probably to buy a new 30 or 40 thousand dollar boat and make the payments but then I'd have to find another hobby and I don't like knitting

So if it's OK with SNS, I'd like to put all this behind us and get back to bending metal?????????

 

[fshngho]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Well, not everybody NB. I seem to be pretty good at messing things up though
Apologies to ANYONE I may have offended.
Now, back to what I am very good at....asking for help & advice :redface:

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

No prob! Im trying to figure out how to delete some posts. Im loading up pics now and will get them up and delete some old posts. Just give me about 15 min! And N.B its behind us!



Ok I finally where able to take some pictures of the little ship wreck today!

Heres the 1983 21 starcraft mariner with a 90 hp rude....

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

No offence taken fsch

Ok guys here she is... The weekend is suppossed to be nice so I will be doing some fishing so I will start ripping her apart during the week next week if I have some time... And take pics of the restore as i go!


A N.B I will be needing a rear right side stern cap that holds the transom togeather at the top of the rear transom. Maybe you can help me out in the future with that!

But for now I gootta get her torn down to the hull and remove the motor. Im thinking of just rebuilding this motor some but I was wondering if anyone had this boat with a 90hp and was wondering how it handled fuel speed cruise etc?


I will be sand blasting the iner and outer hull with a medium fine sand. So it should only take me a full day to get her outer hull preped for primer after the sand blasting. I will then be doing a coat of primate on the outer hull and let that sit for 4 days. I will then be rebuilding the transom with starboard. After a leak test by filling the boat up with some h2o I will then be painting on gluvit everywhere in the iner hull like a hungry mad man. I will then let that sit for 30 min then go back and tip the job out. The following day or so hopefully I will get the inner hull sprayed with some ryno liner in white.


Then Im going to paint her hull a bright blue kinda like the bmw m3 baby bright blue. Or the scout 242 cc guy harvy blue. After thats done I will order the staboard. Cut it all out and lay her down.


Then i will play with fuel placment etc and decide weather or not to keep that console or not.


So we will see how she goes! This one will prop not be 123 because im stil pritty busy with work. But im thinking a months time from start to finish! We shall see.


Not bad for a $500 boat i dont think.....

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Jeez Bob! Anybody can build one from scratch

BTW folks. I'm totally embarassed about all this. Which is exactly why I went back and deleted my posts. I'm truly sorry SNS and anyone else saw them.

Again, I apologize.

Now, lets get a few more things straight.

• 
  I don't consider myself any sort of Grand Boat Restorer! The LL looks the way it does because I went way off the deep end and frankly spent more money on it than I ever want anyone to know.

• 
  There are a bunch of folks on these forums with what I consider a huge amount of mechanical ability (something I do not posess).

• 
  I would love to bracket the back of the CC and hang a couple of say 75HP 4 strokes off the back but one of you folks would have to clean out your spare bedroom for me. That is assuming my wife didn't outright kill me on the spot, so it looks like I'm gonna rebuild the I/O

• 
  I work on aluminum boats because I know absolutely nothing about glass and gell coats and I consider aluminum easier

• 
  I'm not a rich man! I hustle my butt off on the two business I own with help from a couple family members. I COULD afford probably to buy a new 30 or 40 thousand dollar boat and make the payments but then I'd have to find another hobby and I don't like knitting

So if it's OK with SNS, I'd like to put all this behind us and get back to bending metal?????????

You got it! N.B!

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

I have some info that may be helpfull to someone I thought id pop up here. When I purchased the 191 sea nymph striper the tach was not working on the boat. The 90 hp mariner same as a mer 1989 motor had a 13x19 P aluminum prop on it. So after purchasing a new tach and taking her out with a car portable gps The boat did 36 mph at WOT but the rpm where around 5K . Now the rpm range at WOT on this motor is 5K to 5800 But the dealer said 5500 is the sweet spot you want to be at. So after reading some forums and some prop websites etc... I started searching for a new prop. I searched craigslit and found a older stainless steel 13 1/2 x 17 15 splin michigan wheel. The guy I purchased it from said it may have been off a force OB or a OMC I/O outdrive. Whatever the case after buying the adapter and washer etc it fit on like a stock would and I took her out. She toped out at 35 mph at 5500 rpm. The only bad thing was that was not WOT she had alot more to go. She could hit 5800 and then almost 6K so I used the prop for a while but was not happy about this.... So while surfing CL one day I came upon a 13x19 ss prop that came off iether a merc or a yammy it was 15 spline I had the correct adapter etc so I ran it. It was alot quiter and hit 5500 rpm and maxed out at 35mph the bad was that there is no cup on the prop and from 2K rmp to 4200 rpm she was just a slug pushing water no mid range plan speed at all. So i went onto http://www.mercurymarine.com/propellers/prop-selector/# which by the way is not only for merc motors its for all motors. And put in my top speed my rpm max at WOT and my pitch prop I was running. And it caculates what is wrong and what prop to use. I found this very usfull and helpfull. So it is saying that I need a 13x18 P Prop to hit 5350 rpm at 41mph . So I went out and purchased new prop 13x18 P and let me tell you. It is the perfect prop. So that site helped me find the right prop that I was looking for. I figured id through that out there for the people who are struggling to find the right prop for there boat.

 

[TommyD11730]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

191

I enjoyed reading your posts about your past and your relationship with your dad. Sounded very genuine.

I recall very vividly many many aluminum CCs back in the 80's for sale at the Long Island Boat show. They seemed to line the Nassau Coliseum back in the day for "prices people couldn't resist". Many couldn't and an awful number of the Mariners showed up in Smithtown bay <I gre up in Commack>.

Many boats were victims to improper maintenance. Most of these boats were sold with <IMO> trailers that did more harm then good. More then 1 Starcraft was done after the promise to trailer it all over gods green earth gave in with popping rivets.

Salesmen touted the boats as maintenance free as well. After seeing the factory foam job it's not doubt many of the hulls were also retired rather quickly from millions of pin holes!

My Mariner 180 was powered by a Rude 88 SPL and was one WET ride. However it did get me back into my favorite <skinny> water. With a electric trolling motor I could do things a similar fiberglass boat only dreamed of.

A soft floor did me in eventually. I would guess the boat was 10 years old, give or take. Married with young kids the last thing I wanted to entertain was a boat restoration. ( it was bad enough I was finishing a 64 Galaxie and 71 Torino restoration about that time)

Anyways nice to meet you.. and oh... this would be YOUR boat for sale.. now would it? Figured I had to ask.. after I read this.

I will never sell mt 191 Seanymph striper. She will always be my bay/inlet and semi offshore boat. She handles great and is very cheap to run.

Tommy

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

Hi Tommy! Read thread number 24 on page 1. I had deleted it but I guess i really shouldnt have because new viewers would be confused etc....It also adds character to the thread and me.. So I re-posted it up so that won't happen to you or anyone else. I also posted it back up to show people that even in internet land people make mistakes and people can make a menze etc. And somtimes S&&T happens. And its life so we are all big boys and things are past us!

Moving foward here.


Well Tommy. I do know that these boats are pritty good with maintance if your trailering them. But if not and your keeping it in the water and salt water, its not the case. If you are keeping it in the water as I am. there is alot of maintance involved if the boat was not rebuilt or restored.

1 Every 30 days I take her out and give her a good power wash in and out!


2. alot of people back then in the 80's used the wrong bottom paint on these boats and it ate threw the hull and caused alot of those little holes as you where talking about. The paint had copper in it! Thats a no no on aluminum

3 Also electrolicis. people where puting battery chargers on theses boat incorectly and the elec was eating threw the boats as well. You can not leave a aluminum boat hooked up charging none stop!

4 The soggy wet foam with trapped salt water dosent help either. When I rebuild these boats with a star board floor I use stainless screws to put the new floor down so if you ever needed to do new plum work or change the foam it would be a easy task.

5 some people never took out the rear plug and they would fill with water also and sit for years! No good

6. Any boat being kept in the water I feel should be pulled mid seaon and checked!

7. I always check my zincs on the boat and motors etc. That is very inportant on aluminum boats at all times!

On my rebuilds i install zincs to the actual boat. So any corrosion with eat the zinc and not the boat! I usaully buy merc outboard transom zincs and install 1 on each side of the rear trasome on the actual boat itself.


As far as people using the wrong trailers etc yes that could damage the keels and the integrity of the hull if not trailered correctly. Engine floging around etc....I alway use a transom saver when I tow her or ant tinny anywhere or store her! And thats why i have been having a hard time finding a clean starcraft around these parts.


But after I rebuild these boats the way that I do. I will not have to worry about taking her in and out etc.

1 after the gluvit is laid on the iner hull. It basically incapsulates the alluminum from any further rot or corrosion . Of course I will be sand blasting the inner hull and if it shows signs of cancer or rot etc. Then I may have to weld or burn some liquid aluminum over those locations etc. Then gluvit.

2. After the gluvit is totally dry I then coat the inner hull with ryno lining. Now when i say the inner hull I mean the whole inner hull. The bilge rear inner transome where the ribs are ets and the side walls of the boat etc. What this does is it quiets the ride of a aluminum hull and well dampens vibration and also adds another layer of protection (capsulation) of protecting the aluminum from water corrosion, water sitting in the bilge etc.

3. On the outer hull I also sand blast then clean, Now if you dont know how to sand blast you should not try this on aluminum. The temp of the aluminum rises very fast when using sand and can lead to worping distortion etc. So you really have to keep it moving! Then I prep the boat with zinc oxcide. Well its now called zinc primate primer etc.

This will help with corrosion then I prime then I paint. Now after I paint. If you are bottom painting which I am on the 191 Now I diddnt do this to her yet because I diddnt rebuild her yet. But first i will bottom paint. 2 coats of petite aluminum anti fouling black bottom paint. Then a light full coat of gluvit kinda like your puting on a clear coat. Reduced in a sprayer like a clear coat. over the bottom paint. Then do 1 more light coat after it drys with the gluvit again. What that does i protects the first coat of bottom paint as well as sealing the outer hull. Again like a capsule. Then after the second coat is dry you add another 2 light coats of bottom paint for barnicale protection and growth etc. This will keep your bottom hull looking like new forever and easy to clean season to season as far as growth etc!


What this does is protects the outer aluminum that sits in the water from corrosion etc. Also the reason for 2 coats of the bottom paint is because the last 2 coats is what keeps the barinacle and corrosion off. This process will also help when you pull her out of the water and take out the presure washer to clean her off. The 2 last coats off bottom paint will wash off quicky as well as growth etc. And repainting the bottom will be a snap! (this is only for the outer bottom below the water line) Not the outer sides of the boat! Now I do this process because im keeping her in the salt water.


When I build my 26 cc I will just be doing this. Zinc Primate, primer, paint, 2 light coats of gluvit on outer hull below the water line. Then a light coat of paint, And thats it! Because i will be trailering her for offshore runs only! Every other year I would just do some paint touch up on the bottom and then 2 light coats of gluvit then 1 light coat of paint etc if the boat is used heavy etc....

 

[191Seanymphstriper]

Re: Aluminum Boat Rebuild Methods by 191Seanymphstriper

O and I always spray with a compressor and gun. No roller or brush! The job just comes out better. And the key is very light coats and time! You will alway wanna just get it done. But wait and do light coats