Air America, any listeners?

[Haut Medoc]

Re: Air America, any listeners?

HEHEHE! So, if'n ya a'int a believer, ya a'int moral?<br />Do I have that assumption correct?<br />Funjumper, well said....<br />If some had their way, we would be a Puritan society....<br />& we would bring back the Inquisition!<br />Dubya would look right at home ia a Grand Inquistor robe <br />The Pentagon wants to toss out some of the Geneva Convention & Dubya's on board for that....<br />That's just what we need, a little Medevil torture.....<br />Just like in those unsecret prisons <br />But I digress......JK

 

[PW2]

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Funjumper, where ya been?<br /><br />When you get a few posts under your belt, you will learn it is not necessary to be so timid!<br /><br />I recall back in the good ol' days, pre Iraq war, I had the impression I just about the only "progressive" on this board.<br /><br />W has a couple of years left to impart his magic on the country, and perhaps in that amount of time he can help make this board a liberal bastion!<br /><br />If nothing else, it is certainly a noble goal!

 

[mikeandronda]

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First off ya freakin yahoo funjumper its freedom of religion not from........But thats typical from the far left........if they dont like something lie to get their way........lie to change other peoples minds and for that matter just downright lie..........Also I agree those of you who cant seem to hear the word God must be afraid of something........hmmmmmmm could it be GOD? Oh and Plywoody even though you are on opposite sides as I am I still mostly respect you but if this is the kind guy that you get excited about joining ranks with well.......maybe I ought the rethink that.

 

[POINTER94]

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God, I am quoting myself. Jesus help us all.<br /><br />But having been around almost two years, Air America has failed to do anything but provide fodder for the right. Lets look at some liberal markets. In LA they have less than a 1.0 share, less in Chicago and in New York their Flagship station WLIB is now at a .08 market share. So besides having to steal from a boys and girls club, back door funding by the likes of George Soros and flat out begging for money, while having to pay Al Franken his one million bucks a year (doesn't this bother any liberals), the network will be lucky to survive another year. Things are so bad that Mediaweek announced that their FLAGSHIP station in NEW YORK will revert back to an all-Carribean format. They failed to attract a liberal audience in New York? I think they have grown in Seattle and Denver. Wow what a reach. Doesn't anyone find it interesting that the hosts on Air America are pointing to Bush's approval ratings as an indicator of his failure, while they can't typically make even a 1.0 share in the markets they serve.<br /><br />Holy moses, I didn't even mention the fact the many of their paychecks bounced and That bastion of enlightenment Randi Rhodes has threatened to quit how many times? How would anyone know, nobody listens..... Ahhh, saints preserve me.<br /><br />Jesus Mary and Joseph, please protect me from angry liberals. Talk about a bunch of candy (*&^%^. If you can't win in the arena of ideas, just legislate. The sign of a weak message. No, check that, no message. We pray for them all. <br /><br />Just remember God forgives all sins. Liberals don't know how. Amen, power to the people. <br /><br />Continue your research and you will find you can pay Arbitron (The book when it comes to radio ratings) to say almost anything you want.<br /><br />RF big thumbs up on the new avatar.

 

[WillyBWright]

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For what it's worth, I googled Bush Rice Affair and got some pretty interesting results. Can't vouch for it's authenticity, but it's pretty well out there. Not just Randi Rhodes. Have a look at the sponsors of those stories and judge for yourself. Here's one... Condi Bush Affair?<br /><br />Here's another... Condi Bush Affair?

 

[oddjob]

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I personally dont see the prez and condi together. But, after reading some of the posts here I can see how some libs could manage it in their minds...LOL

 

[gafteci]

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Pointer, you’re at it again. Every time I read something that you post, I just shake my head at your stupidity. At least I hope its stupidity, or else you are lying to us.<br /><br />You said:<br />

My favorite is when they complain about Rush on Armed Forces radio. He is on there because during their survey on what programing soldiers wanted to hear, Rush won by an overwhelming margin. The funny part is he wasn't even on the survey, he won by write in vote.

But this is the truth:<br />

Eleven years ago it was Republican members of Congress whose pressure put Limbaugh on American Forces Radio in the first place. In 1993, then Rep. Robert Dornan, R-Calif., along with 69 other Republican House members, sent a letter to President Clinton's first secretary of defense, Les Aspin, demanding that both Limbaugh's radio show and his syndicated television show (on which Limbaugh compared preteen Chelsea Clinton to a dog) be broadcast to the military. "Limbaugh has been called by his liberal critics 'the most dangerous man in America.' It appears the liberal leadership at the Pentagon agrees with that ridiculous assertion," Dornan wrote. "The bottom line is that the troops want Rush Limbaugh, and you should see to it that they at least have that opportunity."<br />The Pentagon responded by pointing to an internal survey of 50,000 military listeners that found that only 4 percent requested more long-format talk radio. Most respondents overwhelmingly requested continuous music. The Pentagon also said that Limbaugh's daily three-hour radio program would monopolize too much of the network's limited airtime.<br />Notably, on Nov. 29, 1993, American Forces Radio and Television Services issued this statement: "The Rush Limbaugh Show makes no pretense that his show is balanced. If AFRTS scheduled a program of personal commentary without balancing it with another viewpoint, we would be open to broad criticism that we are supporting a particular point of view."<br />Yet just three days later, as the controversy was stoked in conservative media and Republicans cried censorship, Aspin called Limbaugh to assure him that the Pentagon would find a way to get his program on the then-named Armed Forces Radio. <br />

So, please get your facts straight before you spout of again. You make Conservatives look worse than they do already.<br />

 

[oddjob]

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Fresh Meat! ^

 

[gafteci]

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waterinthefuel wrote:<br />

To me it gets down to religion. I'm not a republican or democrat, I'm a christian. The bible says killing is bad, so that means abortion is also bad. It says homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord, so that means I'm against it. Those two things just happen to line up with the conservative mindset.<br /><br />I let the big book speak for me.<br />

Well, I hope you don’t have children. In Leviticus, where it talks about homosexuality, it also advocates stoning anyone child who curses his mother or father. <br /><br />I hope you don’t have pet, either. Leviticus says that you should have animal sacrifices to God.<br /><br />Let’s see, what else does Leviticus say. Not to eat pork or shell fish. Put that lobster down!!<br /><br />If you want to follow the Bible, follow it all the way. That means slavery, too. It never says that slavery is wrong, but it does tell you to treat your slaves well. <br /><br />So what is it?!? If you pick and choose what you want to follow in the Bible you’re not a true Christian. But if you follow the Bible and do the things I listed above, what does that make you??<br />

 

[waterinthefuel]

Re: Air America, any listeners?

Gaft, I'm very sorry you aren't a churchgoer. If you were, you would laugh at your questions. But I'll be honest, no I dont have any kids and no I dont have any pets. What exactly is a Christian? It's a believer in Christ. That Christ died for our sins. Meaning.....everything in the old testament isn't applicable because Christ died for our sins. There are no more sacrafices to God because his only son was the ultimate sacrafice.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm not picking and choosing out of the bible. It's called living by the new testament, not the old. That's what Christians do. I don't own slaves. Where did slaves come into this discussion? I'm a sinner, that's why I'm a christian. Don't be upset because the conservative mindset follows the bible and the liberal one doesn't. Don't complain to me, go call Al Frankenstien. Maybe he cares.

 

[gafteci]

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Water, so you want to throw out the Old Testament? Does that mean we no longer have to obey the Ten Commandments? Or, are you just talking about the sinning part?<br />In that case, what about the death penalty? Christians who are for the death penalty quote “An eye for an eye”. Isn’t that in the Old Testament? If Jesus died for our sins then there is no reason to give the ultimate punishment to a killer, just keep the person in jail for life. That would follow the sixth Commandment. There are too many parts of the Bible that people skip over because it doesn’t fit with what they believe. If you truly believe in Christ, follow his teachings, don’t pick and choose. <br /><br />The reason I brought up slavery is because you said that you are against homosexuality because God is against it. As a good Christian, you are for or against whatever God is for or against. God does not think that slavery is wrong. Jesus only talks about not beating your slaves, to treat them kindly. How many people on iboats think its okay to own a slave?

 

[QC]

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Err, gaffboy . . . since it appears to be your favorite game, the literal Hebrew translation of the 6th Commandment is "thou shall not murder". Guaranteed, do some research . . .<br /><br />BTW, many find it quite childish to point out technicalities without offering any opinion. It is much easier to simply blast everything than actually think about it. Much like my experience with Air America which I forced myself to listen to for one solid week about a year ago. What a lousy attempt at entertainment . . . <br /><br />BTW, I am not some prude who objects to vulgar and silly humor. I happen to love Austin Powers for example. The stuff on Air America is simply carp, not entertaining, not funny, not intelectual, not thought provoking, the only reason I might call it stimulating is the gag reflex that I experienced for that same solid week . . .

 

[gafteci]

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QC - When you put someone to death when there isn't an immediate threat to you or someone else, I think that is called murder. It might be state sanctioned, but it is still murder. I also believe that Jesus would not be for the Death Penalty. Mistakes are made and innocents could be put to death. As a Christian, don't you think it would be better to put people away for life?<br /><br />I don't see much opinion(besides loving Austion Powers) in your piece, but I have a notion where you stand, just like I would hope that others can tell where I stand when I post here.<br /><br />But for everyone as thick as QC. I love AA!! Al Franken is hilarious, insiteful, and never lies or make things up(like Rush, Bill O'Rielly, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter,... etc). I don't believe in the Bible. I do believe in a lot of what it tries to teach. I don't think homosexualty will bring down this country. It has been around as long as man, so if it is so terrible, we would never have gotten where we are today. I think any adult should be able to have a civil union with any other adult. If you're worried that God is against gays, you should be worried that God is against adultery. That means no more second or third marriages (got that Rush). There are more adulterers in this country then gays. If God sees both as a sin, but he has put only one into the Commandments, which one do the think he hates more?<br /><br />QC, are you okay with this? I can go on, but I think you get the idea.

 

[QC]

Re: Air America, any listeners?

Equating the execution of a guilty murderer with the taking of innocent life is very telling. No, I am not OK with this. It is, however, consistent with many liberals' twisted sense of moral equivalency and fuzzy logic. Maybe this is why I can't spend anytime listening to Air America, which I believe was the topic . . .<br /><br />FWIW, I do not argue the homosexual discussion from a biblical standpoint. I see your use of the na-na-na-na-nana approach (God says this, and you say that, and then you say this) as another example of my point in the previous post. Very similar to the way my 10 year old approaches some discrepancies, "one-thousand-one, Dad, you said just a second" . . .

 

[gafteci]

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QC, you really can't be that stupid. To try to equate what your son does and how I show that Christians pick and choose what parts of the Bible they want to follow is idiotic, even for a right wing nut like you.<br />Did you read the post from Waterinthefuel? He says that he's against murder, inculding abortion, and homosexuality because God is against it. He brought in the topic of God and the fact that he follows what God says. I'm just trying to figure out if he really does follow Gods law or if he just does what his prejudices allow him to accept.<br />I'm not equating an execution with the killing of an innocent person and calling that murder. I think God would call it murder. If that killer is no longer a threat and is locked away, why kill that person. Besides that, there are mistakes made where innocent people are put on death row. I wonder what God thinks is an acceptable percent of people wrongly put to death just to sate our desire for vengeance?

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by gafteci:<br />...I don't believe in the Bible.

Hmmmm, why is it that I don't think that you really needed to tell us that?

 

[rolmops]

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Originally posted by gafteci:<br /> How many people on iboats think its okay to own a slave?

I would love to have a beautiful blond one with blue eyes.I promise that I will treat her very kindly.

 

[Boomyal]

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Originally posted by rolmops:<br />I would love to have a beautiful blond one with blue eyes.I promise that I will treat her very kindly.

Wouldn't a Stepford Wife suffice rolmops?

 

[rolmops]

Re: Air America, any listeners?

You mean a stepford wife who is perfect beyond belief?

 

[POINTER94]

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Blah, blah, blah, angry liberals of the world unite. Power to the people....<br /><br />I think that freedom of speech, means freedom FROM speech. You know like AA hate speech. I like this liberal stuff, works great. Religion/Speech Speech/Religion <br /><br /><br />from the AFRTS page,<br /><br />Q: How are programs selected?<br /><br />A: Weekly Nielsen (television) and Arbitron (radio) ratings in the United States and periodic DOD SURVEYS are used by AFRTS to identify the most popular shows to match AFRTS audience demographics. In recent years, AFRTS has been able to acquire and air 90 to 95 percent of the top 75 U.S. prime time series. No single U.S. station or network provides a similar service.<br /><br /> http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jan2006/20060123_3982.html