93 johnson 30 elect. start not charging

david821

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have checked with meter only have batterie voltage when running have volt meter also on boat not showing voltage the tach is working, tried ohm on rectifier showed ohms either way black or red on ground across colored wires only one way on red,...thanks for any advise
 

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Re: 93 johnson 30 elect. start not charging

There is an item on the "Engine FAQs" board by Joe Reeves on testing small rectifiers which may be of use to you.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=190638

Yours is I think the four wire type which he mentions. Three yellow are the input the red is the DC +ve and the case is -ve

I'd add that you should use the diode test range of a digital multimeter rather than the ohms range. Not all will work on all ohms ranges for testing diodes.
 

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Re: 93 johnson 30 elect. start not charging

thankyou for your reply I do believe it to be the rectifier,not positive what you ment about testing the with a multi meter I did rely on a digital meter for my readings but I am not overly familier with different setting on meters,my problem with all I have been reading is that my tach seems to be working is that possible with the rectifier being bad,again thankyou for the help.
CHEERS David
 

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Re: 93 johnson 30 elect. start not charging

Experience is that digital multimeters may or may not be OK for testing diodes using their Ohms ranges. Some seem to do it OK on some ranges others are no good on all ranges. Old fashioned analogue meters are OK.

I suspect the problem is that the digital meters apply a very small voltage which may not be high enough to for the diode to conduct in the forward direction. It takes about 0.7 volts to make a diode conduct. You would get a high resistance reading in both directions on all (6) diodes if that were the case.

Problem solved if the meter has a diode test range.

There are two bits of Joe's test procedure that I would not include if I was writing it. They are:

"then the red wire " in the first section
and the statement and "Note that the reading obtained from the red rectifier wire will be lower then what is obtained from the other wires" after the second section.

If of interest to you the lower diagram here

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shows the circuit of a small four wire rectifier. The procedure basically tests the resistance of each of the 6 diodes in both forward and reverse directions. They should all have a low resistance in one direction and and infinite resistance in the other.

I reckon that your rectifier is blown and that your tachometer is getting its power from the battery and therefore continues to work.

When you get a new rectifier take care that you never connect the battery the wrong way round as that will blow the diodes in an instant. Disconnecting the battery while the engine is running may do so also.(BTW if it has 3 plain yellow leads without blue or gray stripes dont worry as it does not matter which of the yellows is which)
 

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Re: 93 johnson 30 elect. start not charging

Again thankyou this problem just happend the last time out I fish alot at night and do seem to remember switching batteries in the dark I could have made a mistake and touched the terminals backwards,and on your diagram I guess if your symboll is for a diode than I do have that on my meter and again learned something new today I am a pipe fitter by trade and jack of all at home thankyou for your input.
Happy New Year
David
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